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flyhperformancehorse
Reg. Mar 2007
Posted 2019-10-17 6:56 PM
Subject: Hock issues on pre purchase


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Recently had a buyer do a pre purcahse on a 1D horse I've had his whole life. Clinically he is sound and his joints palpated sound and they decided to go with xrays for reference, which I completly recommend. Upon xrays, we found his left hock has changes to middle joint and mild arthritis. Vet suggests hes had it most of his life, could be possibly fused due to being clinically sound with flexion test, etc... buyers don't want to chance it, okay I get it. How do I go forth for future buyers?? I am not going to change anything I am doing with him. He also placed top 1D with the rider her first run with him, hes a nice nice horse, who might need future injections. I want to be unfront with the new findings, I feel like this shouldn't be a big deal... I currently inject my other 1D horse and I am not fazed by it. 

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MOGirl07
Reg. Feb 2012
Posted 2019-10-17 7:01 PM
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If I were in the market for that calibur horse I would fully expect to find something on a prepurchase or have the seller tell me they need some sort of maintenance. I wouldn't be fazed by routine maintenance at all especially if I got along with the horse. 

Seems odd that they're making it an issue. Are they trying to get you to lower the price or what? If I got along with something and it ONLY needed routine injections or something minor, I'd be like GREAT. 

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flyhperformancehorse
Reg. Mar 2007
Posted 2019-10-17 7:09 PM
Subject: RE: Hock issues on pre purchase


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MOGirl07 - 2019-10-17 5:01 PM


If I were in the market for that calibur horse I would fully expect to find something on a prepurchase or have the seller tell me they need some sort of maintenance. I wouldn't be fazed by routine maintenance at all especially if I got along with the horse. 


Seems odd that they're making it an issue. Are they trying to get you to lower the price or what? If I got along with something and it ONLY needed routine injections or something minor, I'd be like GREAT. 


I was willing to take a little less if that was the deciding factor, because I was really thrilled with how well she rode him and knew they'd be a good team, which is really important to me. Just feeling frusterated. 

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little_bug
Reg. Oct 2008
Posted 2019-10-17 7:13 PM
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Wouldn't phase me... I have noticed that the less experienced horse buyers/shoppers are much more easily scared off by "issues" that aren't really issues just normal wear and tear. Might not be their case but I have seen it often.

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dRowe
Reg. Jan 2017
Posted 2019-10-17 7:42 PM
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I always expect things to show up on PPEs. It’s what I can and can’t live with. That’s personal opinion. 

Arthritic hocks on a 3 year old? I’d probably pass. On a 10 year old who has been run hard? No big deal and I would not expect a price reduction because of it. But that’s all a personal decision. 

Too bad it was  a great match for your horse. :(

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Liana D
Reg. Sep 2008
Posted 2019-10-17 8:28 PM
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flyhperformancehorse - 2019-10-17 6:56 PM


Recently had a buyer do a pre purcahse on a 1D horse I've had his whole life. Clinically he is sound and his joints palpated sound and they decided to go with xrays for reference, which I completly recommend. Upon xrays, we found his left hock has changes to middle joint and mild arthritis. Vet suggests hes had it most of his life, could be possibly fused due to being clinically sound with flexion test, etc... buyers don't want to chance it, okay I get it. How do I go forth for future buyers?? I am not going to change anything I am doing with him. He also placed top 1D with the rider her first run with him, hes a nice nice horse, who might need future injections. I want to be unfront with the new findings, I feel like this shouldn't be a big deal... I currently inject my other 1D horse and I am not fazed by it. 


Don't change anything. He's a successful horse with what's probably very normal wear and tear. Everyone has a threshold of what they can deal with and what they're willing to maintain. You can tell prospective buyers he has some Mild changes in his hock .

 

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flyhperformancehorse
Reg. Mar 2007
Posted 2019-10-17 8:51 PM
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dRowe - 2019-10-17 5:42 PM


I always expect things to show up on PPEs. It’s what I can and can’t live with. That’s personal opinion. 


Arthritic hocks on a 3 year old? I’d probably pass. On a 10 year old who has been run hard? No big deal and I would not expect a price reduction because of it. But that’s all a personal decision. 


Too bad it was  a great match for your horse. :(


I know! I've done everything from day 1 with this gelding and he's very special to us, so finding him that perfect match was more important to us, plus they are really good people. I am just bummed! We all have our preferences, just unfortunate I guess :

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babbsywabbsy
Reg. Feb 2016
Posted 2019-10-18 12:09 PM
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All I have to say is WOW. 

They're a barrel horse, most of them require some sort of maintenance. As someone else said a 3 year old with changes? Ehh... probably would pass on that, but one that is currently running and winning as an aged open horse? Absolutely I would buy one that required hock injections (or would possibly need them in the future). The buyer may have just been uneducated, but they're going to have a tough time finding a true 1D horse that requires absolutely zero maintenance to keep them in tip top shape. As the seller, I would disclose what the vet found to prospective buyers just so you dont have to go through this again. So sorry, but hey, you've got a nice horse for sale and hopefully their new person will come around soon! Good luck! 

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casualdust07
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2019-10-18 1:01 PM
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Don't change anything.  You will find the right buyer. Some people get so hung up on x rays on a pre purchase. Their loss. 

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emricmacy
Reg. Sep 2016
Posted 2019-10-18 1:13 PM
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I wouldn't change anything, but I would tell perspective buyers about it, so you don't keep going through this. 

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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2019-10-18 1:29 PM
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He sounds like a nice one, but everybody is different, its too bad they passed on him, but they have their reasons I'm sure, that right buyer will come along. How old is this horse?

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flyhperformancehorse
Reg. Mar 2007
Posted 2019-10-18 2:01 PM
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Southtxponygirl - 2019-10-18 11:29 AM


He sounds like a nice one, but everybody is different, its too bad they passed on him, but they have their reasons I'm sure, that right buyer will come along. How old is this horse?


He is coming 10. I decided to write in my ad the info so there isnt any guessing our wondering. The folks are so nice to even give me xrays so I don't have to take them again! He'll find his human! <3 

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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2019-10-18 2:13 PM
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flyhperformancehorse - 2019-10-18 2:01 PM


Southtxponygirl - 2019-10-18 11:29 AM


He sounds like a nice one, but everybody is different, its too bad they passed on him, but they have their reasons I'm sure, that right buyer will come along. How old is this horse?



He is coming 10. I decided to write in my ad the info so there isnt any guessing our wondering. The folks are so nice to even give me xrays so I don't have to take them again! He'll find his human! <3 


You sound like a good and honest lady, you are so right his new human will come along and love him just as much as you. The people that tryed him sound like really good people too and glad they were just as honest as you are about this horse. But they must not have been ready or they just did not have enough education to deal with this matter at this time. That was really nice of them to give you the xrays, the right person will come along, just takes time..

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Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2019-10-19 5:38 PM
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little_bug - 2019-10-17 5:13 PM


Wouldn't phase me... I have noticed that the less experienced horse buyers/shoppers are much more easily scared off by "issues" that aren't really issues just normal wear and tear. Might not be their case but I have seen it often.


I agree with this.......wouldn't phase me at all........................

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turnnburnkota
Reg. Jan 2009
Posted 2019-10-21 8:48 AM
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They might come back if they go vet a couple more horses and see what's out there. I wouldn't be scared off by a few changes in the hocks of a proven horse, especially if he's not even needing maintenance to keep going.

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ertopa
Reg. Oct 2019
Posted 2019-10-21 4:33 PM
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If I were in the market for that calibur horse I would fully expect to find something on a prepurchase or have the seller tell me they need some sort of maintenance. I wouldn't be fazed by routine maintenance at all especially if I got along with the horse. 

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della
Reg. Apr 2011
Posted 2019-10-21 10:10 PM
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I'd personaly offer to pay for the Xray (not the whole exam) and put it into his add. Potential buyers can then show and talk to thier vet before even contacting you.

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