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bkkelly08
Reg. May 2012
Posted 2020-02-05 12:12 PM
Subject: Another feed post


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Currently I feed:

1 pound of whole oats

1/2 pound renew gold

1/2 pound Trinergy -made by McCauley 's 

I feed this ration AM and PM to my 17 year old barrel mare. We dont have good pasture where I live. She gets alfalfa hay and grass hay. Also this winter i started mixing up a PM mash of molasses free beet pulp pellets and alfalfa pellets. Here is some background info on her:

She is 17 this year. She has hocks/stifles injected. Racey build. Frenchmans Guy granddaughter on top Dash Ta Fame granddaughter on bottom. She paws. She is ulcer prone. Usually flairs up in the winter. We run a lot of rodeos and she is hauled quite often. Runs 1/2d has a great resume. 

Here is the issue....I'm just not happy with her top line and she is showing symptoms again of ulcers, which I will treat. Someone suggested after treatment I put her on a senior feed and recommend Triple Crown Senior for her ulcer issues. Would you switch? I had thought about maybe just adding a little TC senior in to what I'm feeding and/or taking something out. What would you change? Please be kind.

This is the write up on the Trinergy supplement she is getting:

Features

  • Specially designed for racing and performance horses.
  • The stresses of training and competition (e.g., strenuous exercise, high exposure to airborne irritants and pathogens, shipping, confinement, etc.), require unique nutritional support.
  • Supplies high levels of specific vitamins and minerals with normal functions that include:
    • Antioxidant activity
    • Maintaining the integrity of muscles and lung tissue
    • Production of connective tissue (maintains tendon strength and elasticity) and activation of the immune response
  • Provides all additional minerals and vitamins required by horses
  • Extremely palatable (the perfect solution for the "picky eater")
  • High fat content (only vegetable oil added)
  • Available in approximately 3/16-inch diameter pellets
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winwillows
Reg. Jul 2013
Posted 2020-02-05 12:40 PM
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I can't find an actual ingredient list for the McCauley product, so I can't say if that is something you want in an ulcer prone diet or not. I would typically take all the oats away from an ulcer prone horse. Increase the Renew Gold to 1 1/2 pounds total per day, increase the alfalfa fed (this is a benefit to both hind gut function and ulcer prevention). Check teeth, the most often missed issue in horses that fail to thrive on a sound diet. 

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want2chase3
Reg. May 2009
Posted 2020-02-05 1:32 PM
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From what I understand (at the moment) for topline concerns (lacking) horses need appropriate amounts of amino acids that they arent getting from forage or pastures. I always thought oats didnt provide much actual nutrition. I dont have proof so dont ask lol! Just from what I've read and heard. Plus they are super high in starch. I'd add in a complete feed or ration balancer to make sure the horse is getting enough vitamins and minerals with essential aminos....  just my .02  I add bluebonnet sr therapy to my horses beet pulp mix, just a little bit to make it palatable with his platinum mixed in. I was feeding the ex factor but decided to move him over to the sr because it mashes in better with the soaked BP  hes a chronic food dropper ... theres a good reason why my chickens hang around him when he eats... he doesn't drop a bit when hes fed soaked BP mix.. I think it's just easier on him when his feed is mushy 

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bkkelly08
Reg. May 2012
Posted 2020-02-05 1:43 PM
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I will tag a picture of the tag of the Trinergy. Should I feed the senior version of RG? 

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bkkelly08
Reg. May 2012
Posted 2020-02-05 1:46 PM
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winwillows - 2020-02-05 1:40 PM


I can't find an actual ingredient list for the McCauley product, so I can't say if that is something you want in an ulcer prone diet or not. I would typically take all the oats away from an ulcer prone horse. Increase the Renew Gold to 1 1/2 pounds total per day, increase the alfalfa fed (this is a benefit to both hind gut function and ulcer prevention). Check teeth, the most often missed issue in horses that fail to thrive on a sound diet. 


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I'll post a picture of the ingredients for the Trinergy. Should I feed the RG senior?

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JLazyT_perf_horses
Reg. Dec 2010
Posted 2020-02-05 2:10 PM
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winwillows - 2020-02-05 12:40 PM


I can't find an actual ingredient list for the McCauley product, so I can't say if that is something you want in an ulcer prone diet or not. I would typically take all the oats away from an ulcer prone horse. Increase the Renew Gold to 1 1/2 pounds total per day, increase the alfalfa fed (this is a benefit to both hind gut function and ulcer prevention). Check teeth, the most often missed issue in horses that fail to thrive on a sound diet. 


Win


This. Get rid of oats & add more RG. Can't go wrong with extra alfalfa either. If she's that ulcer prone, you can put her on a daily preventative like MVP Gastro-Plex. I've also had really nice topline results lately adding some rice bran into the mix. I just use the Manna Pro meal one right now, about 3/4 cup a day, a full cup for my 27 year old. He has a nicer topline than anyone in the barn right now 

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bkkelly08
Reg. May 2012
Posted 2020-02-05 8:38 PM
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Posted 2020-02-06 9:51 PM
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FloridaPriss
Reg. Oct 2011
Posted 2020-02-07 9:22 AM
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I've always understood that oats are not good for the ulcer prone horse.

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bkkelly08
Reg. May 2012
Posted 2020-02-07 1:52 PM
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I've always heard both ways.....I've been told they are fine for ulcer horses and also not fine. It is so hard to sift through!

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winwillows
Reg. Jul 2013
Posted 2020-02-07 8:36 PM
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There is no high NSC grain that is fine for ulcer prone horses. Of all the high starch grains oats are perhaps the safest due to the high fiber content. A low oat inclusion in the diet of the healthy horse may be tolerated, but I would never add them to a ulcer horse. 

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