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Supplement with Pro & Prebiotic?

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fulltiltfilly
Reg. Dec 2008
Posted 2020-02-25 7:06 AM
Subject: Supplement with Pro & Prebiotic?



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Recommendations on a good supplement that contains both?

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Whiteboy
Reg. Jul 2012
Posted 2020-02-25 8:56 AM
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I do Renew Gold and Forco on some of mine.  They look and feel great.  

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FLITASTIC
Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2020-02-25 9:02 AM
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UKELE " GUT" has them both. Just double checked and its in bold print on the label. LOL It comes in powder or pellet. I have used the pellets in the past with great success. 



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want2chase3
Reg. May 2009
Posted 2020-02-25 10:29 AM
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Platinum has a nice one. 

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WYOTurn-n-Burn
Reg. Sep 2004
Posted 2020-02-25 2:03 PM
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I feed Grand Meadows Grand Premium Plus and it has a pro and prebiotic amongst an array of other wonderful things.

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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2020-02-25 3:41 PM
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I use Forco, you really need to read up on it, its got some really good info about it.

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fulltiltfilly
Reg. Dec 2008
Posted 2020-02-26 7:01 AM
Subject: RE: Supplement with Pro & Prebiotic?



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Southtxponygirl - 2020-02-25 4:41 PM


I use Forco, you really need to read up on it, its got some really good info about it.


I used Forco in the past and wasn't that impressed with it.

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winwillows
Reg. Jul 2013
Posted 2020-02-26 4:44 PM
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We put a proprietary Prebiotic in Renew Gold. We do not add a daily probiotic because it is not necessary in a recommended Renew Gold diet. Where a probiotic is useful is after surgury, high stress from sickness, a heavy antibiotic use, or with a ration that includes a high amount of grain based feed. All of these situations are very hard on the existing microbial population in the hind gut. Our theory is not to keep adding benificial bacteria every day, but rather to quit killing the naturally occuring bacteria that are present in the hind gut. A prebiotic, on the other hand, enhances the environment for the naturally occuring beneficial bacteria to maintain a proper healthy population, and can provide a benefit from a daily inclusion. 



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fulltiltfilly
Reg. Dec 2008
Posted 2020-02-28 12:08 PM
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winwillows - 2020-02-26 5:44 PM


We put a proprietary Prebiotic in Renew Gold. We do not add a daily probiotic because it is not necessary in a recommended Renew Gold diet. Where a probiotic is useful is after surgury, high stress from sickness, a heavy antibiotic use, or with a ration that includes a high amount of grain based feed. All of these situations are very hard on the existing microbial population in the hind gut. Our theory is not to keep adding benificial bacteria every day, but rather to quit killing the naturally occuring bacteria that are present in the hind gut. A prebiotic, on the other hand, enhances the environment for the naturally occuring beneficial bacteria to maintain a proper healthy population, and can provide a benefit from a daily inclusion. 


Thanks for the info Win! I was only looking to add it because in my research I read somewhere that adding both can be beneficial to an ulcer prone horse. I am feeding a forage based diet with minimal grain. I don't even think my barrel horse gets more than a pound (I have to find my scale and weigh it) of pellets. She also gets  alfalfa pellets, grass hay 24/7 and then alfalfa cubes.

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Rockyroad
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2020-02-28 3:23 PM
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Fastrack Equine Microbial has both pre & pro-biotics in it.  That's what I've used for many years.

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winwillows
Reg. Jul 2013
Posted 2020-02-28 6:49 PM
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fulltiltfilly - 2020-02-28 12:08 PM

winwillows - 2020-02-26 5:44 PM

We put a proprietary Prebiotic in Renew Gold. We do not add a daily probiotic because it is not necessary in a recommended Renew Gold diet. Where a probiotic is useful is after surgury, high stress from sickness, a heavy antibiotic use, or with a ration that includes a high amount of grain based feed. All of these situations are very hard on the existing microbial population in the hind gut. Our theory is not to keep adding benificial bacteria every day, but rather to quit killing the naturally occuring bacteria that are present in the hind gut. A prebiotic, on the other hand, enhances the environment for the naturally occuring beneficial bacteria to maintain a proper healthy population, and can provide a benefit from a daily inclusion. 

Thanks for the info Win! I was only looking to add it because in my research I read somewhere that adding both can be beneficial to an ulcer prone horse. I am feeding a forage based diet with minimal grain. I don't even think my barrel horse gets more than a pound (I have to find my scale and weigh it) of pellets. She also gets  alfalfa pellets, grass hay 24/7 and then alfalfa cubes.

There is a place for a probiotic in the diet of a horse whos digestive system is not fully functional. My preference, and I am sure your preference also would be to reach that fully functional state and eliminate the base cause of the disfunction. In your case being ulcer prone. The diet you are feeding should have very little chance of creating a diet caused ulcer. That said, there are other reasons that a horse gets ulcers. My use of probiotics is typically in cases where I can't talk owners out of feeding grain. In that case, both pre and probiotics, and additional Omega 3 can put a bandaid on the problem, but not eliminate it. One pound per day such as you feed should be handled easily by most horses. It woudl still be better to eliminate it that if you can. 



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cowgirlup012002
Reg. May 2005
Posted 2020-02-29 1:20 PM
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CYA Ranch
Reg. Feb 2008
Posted 2020-03-01 7:34 AM
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I feed Triple Crown Complete which has Pre and Pro biotics in it.  

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WYOTurn-n-Burn
Reg. Sep 2004
Posted 2020-03-03 10:27 AM
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CYA Ranch - 2020-03-01 7:34 AM


I feed Triple Crown Complete which has Pre and Pro biotics in it.  


I was contemplating switching my guy to this, since it's now available in my area. Is it a sweet feed type consistency or pellet?

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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2020-03-03 10:41 AM
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WYOTurn-n-Burn - 2020-03-03 10:27 AM


CYA Ranch - 2020-03-01 7:34 AM


I feed Triple Crown Complete which has Pre and Pro biotics in it.  



I was contemplating switching my guy to this, since it's now available in my area. Is it a sweet feed type consistency or pellet?


Triple Crown Complete. 

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WYOTurn-n-Burn
Reg. Sep 2004
Posted 2020-03-03 2:58 PM
Subject: RE: Supplement with Pro & Prebiotic?



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Southtxponygirl - 2020-03-03 10:41 AM


WYOTurn-n-Burn - 2020-03-03 10:27 AM


CYA Ranch - 2020-03-01 7:34 AM


I feed Triple Crown Complete which has Pre and Pro biotics in it.  



I was contemplating switching my guy to this, since it's now available in my area. Is it a sweet feed type consistency or pellet?



Triple Crown Complete. 


Thank you!

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CYA Ranch
Reg. Feb 2008
Posted 2020-03-03 7:48 PM
Subject: RE: Supplement with Pro & Prebiotic?


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Mine doesn't have that much oats in it.  Its a lot of beet pulp.  Read up on their website.  Lots of information.  

 

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