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NJJ
Reg. Jul 2006
Posted 2020-10-02 1:19 PM
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vjls - 2020-10-02 1:01 PM


question  i have heard biden say racial slurs  but never heard trump say it


 


i did see him mock the guy that was handicapped


 


not talking about trumps companies or eployees or ..  trump himself.  i looked and could not  but biden oh yes


https://www.vox.com/2016/7/25/12270880/donald-trump-racist-racism-history

 

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Bear
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2020-10-02 1:26 PM
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https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-daily-vox/

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vjls
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Frodo - 2020-10-02 2:15 PM


Remember at the debate when Trump said Biden, in a speech to our military guys, had called them "stupid bastards."  Biden kept saying "show the tape, show the tape."  Well they've run it again and again on FOX.  He did call them that in a rather rude and heated fashion, then turned around and said what a dull group they were.  I think the old fart thought he was being funny but it wasn't showing in these soldiers faces.  


 


dang   snopes says its mostly false  politifact  say half true

 

  • President Donald Trump during the presidential debate on Tuesday accused former Vice President Joe Biden of calling US troops "stupid bastards" in 2016.
  • Biden did make the remarks, but his campaign said it was done so endearingly.
  • It is extremely unlikely Biden had maliciously disparaged US troops. In the same speech, the former vice president had praised the service members for their heroism and described them as "the finest generation of warriors the world has ever, ever known."
  • This comes after a report in The Atlantic in which anonymous sources said Trump had called fallen US soldiers "losers" and "suckers."

 

 

 
funny  how that work trumps say it its absolutely fact  
 
biden say it oh  he was joking 
 
 
trump can not breathe right    i do not understand why they hate him  but yes i  can
 
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NJJ
Reg. Jul 2006
Posted 2020-10-02 5:11 PM
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LOL ......Thank you

Notes: The Daily Vox is a South African news and opinion website. They present news with slightly loaded words that have a left wing bias. Most articles are well sourced and reasonable factual.

I also noticed that ABC, CBS or NBC was NOT included in their "left leaning" list ....... hmmmm?

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Bear
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2020-10-02 7:06 PM
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To quote:

"These media sources are moderately to strongly biased toward liberal causes through story selection and/or political affiliation.  They may utilize strong loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes), publish misleading reports and omit reporting of information that may damage liberal causes. Some sources in this category may be untrustworthy."

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NJJ
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Posted 2020-10-02 7:41 PM
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Bear - 2020-10-02 7:06 PM

To quote:

"These media sources are moderately to strongly biased toward liberal causes through story selection and/or political affiliation.  They may utilize strong loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes), publish misleading reports and omit reporting of information that may damage liberal causes. Some sources in this category may be untrustworthy."

Nice try .....YOUR statement is the prelude for their list of biased sources....ABC, NBC abd CBS are NOT included in that list ...... AND .....MY quote is for the source of VOX ....... 

Oh look ....... For VOX ....... Factual Reporting: HIGH 



Edited by NJJ 2020-10-02 7:43 PM
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Bear
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2020-10-02 8:22 PM
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https://www.allsides.com/news-source/vox-news-media-bias


"Vox has a Left media bias. In Sept. 2018, the AllSides team conducted an extensive editorial review and decided to shift Vox from a Lean Left to a Left media bias rating.

The AllSides team found that Vox consistently writes favorably about Left-leaning policies and never includes a Right-leaning perspective. Articles on Vox.com have tied President Trump to fascism, and its "Explainers" section almost never includes Right-leaning opinions or viewpoints. Vox's Explainers provide only one side of an issue, making it seem as if the information provided is all readers need to know, when in reality, Right-leaning individuals would likely include other facts or make different points about the topic. This prevents readers from getting a holistic understanding of the highlighted issues.

AllSides notes that Vox often frames news and issues as if the Left perspective is the only perspective, and its hard news articles include commentary that is subjective in nature. Vox often blurs the line between news and editorial. One AllSides team member noted Vox "seems like advocacy outlet for the Democratic Party, showing all the "news" you'd like to hear as a Democrat."

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NJJ
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Posted 2020-10-02 8:32 PM
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Bear - 2020-10-02 8:22 PM


https://www.allsides.com/news-source/vox-news-media-bias



"Vox has a Left media bias. In Sept. 2018, the AllSides team conducted an extensive editorial review and decided to shift Vox from a Lean Left to a Left media bias rating.


The AllSides team found that Vox consistently writes favorably about Left-leaning policies and never includes a Right-leaning perspective. Articles on Vox.com have tied President Trump to fascism, and its "Explainers" section almost never includes Right-leaning opinions or viewpoints. Vox's Explainers provide only one side of an issue, making it seem as if the information provided is all readers need to know, when in reality, Right-leaning individuals would likely include other facts or make different points about the topic. This prevents readers from getting a holistic understanding of the highlighted issues.


AllSides notes that Vox often frames news and issues as if the Left perspective is the only perspective, and its hard news articles include commentary that is subjective in nature. Vox often blurs the line between news and editorial. One AllSides team member noted Vox "seems like advocacy outlet for the Democratic Party, showing all the "news" you'd like to hear as a Democrat."


Sounds a LOT like the reverse leanings of the FOX commentators lately ...... LOL 

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Palopony
Reg. Feb 2006
Posted 2020-10-03 12:36 AM
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vjls - 2020-10-02 2:01 PM


question  i have heard biden say racial slurs  but never heard trump say it


 


i did see him mock the guy that was handicapped


 


not talking about trumps companies or eployees or ..  trump himself.  i looked and could not  but biden oh yes


 


 


What about what he did in 1989, to the Central Park 5?  Not many people would take out a full page ad in a newspaper trying to reinstate the death penalty to kill teenagers.  I was really shocked when he refused to issue an apology when DNA finally freed them.

Just who doesn't he mock and make up names for?

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Posted 2020-10-03 7:09 AM
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Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2020-10-03 7:17 AM
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Meanwhile, the list of prominent hate-filled liberals gleefully and openly hoping for President Trump to die continues to grow by the hour.  We've all seen it.  This includes Hollywood celebrities, politicians, former Obama administration officials, and members of the media.  
They will do anything to deflect attention away from their own reptilian ugliness. 

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Posted 2020-10-03 7:28 AM
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vjls
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2020-10-03 8:01 AM
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NJJ - 2020-10-02 2:19 PM


vjls - 2020-10-02 1:01 PM


question  i have heard biden say racial slurs  but never heard trump say it


 


i did see him mock the guy that was handicapped


 


not talking about trumps companies or eployees or ..  trump himself.  i looked and could not  but biden oh yes



https://www.vox.com/2016/7/25/12270880/donald-trump-racist-racism-history


 


i read those earlier  i reckon i am not articulate enough to say what i mean.

 

i was trying to refer to  like ur a n  or similiar to biden words

 

most of what i see of trump is his companies and business. personally africa venazuela are ****hole countries somilia. that vox articile where it say

 

For one, the argument is tremendously semantic. It’s essentially probing the question: Is Trump racist or is he bigoted? But who cares? Neither is a trait that anyone should want in a president — and either label essentially communicates the same criticism.

that would be biden also and harris

 

i think we all are to some degree  i know i am    gangs one with pants downm ankles  women with kids by  different men  etc  dam right i am

 

 

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vjls
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2020-10-03 8:13 AM
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NJJ - 2020-10-02 2:19 PM


vjls - 2020-10-02 1:01 PM


question  i have heard biden say racial slurs  but never heard trump say it


 


i did see him mock the guy that was handicapped


 


not talking about trumps companies or eployees or ..  trump himself.  i looked and could not  but biden oh yes



https://www.vox.com/2016/7/25/12270880/donald-trump-racist-racism-history


 


i saw that     but its was his companies

 but its so  biased  i went 1 by 1 on those allegations and they  to me are not racist  for the mexican comment lok at  breitbart comments

most of afica and somolia are **** hole countries   red cross and other feed off those kids  and mothers and huts

 

 

 

 

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Dirt Dobber
Reg. Jun 2009
Posted 2020-10-03 8:23 AM
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I do not think Trump is a racist.  Trump says a lot that cringes my very soul but I grade him on his actions as POTUS. Just as I grade Biden and Harris on their time spent holding public office.  First time around I voted for the lesser evil of the two candidates.  This time I will vote Trump because I honestly feel he will do more and do it better.  I also have learned during Covid what it is like to have my freedom taken away from me.  To see this become a way of life is terrifying.  Some may not realize it but we also indirectly got a taste of what socialized medicine would be like during this time.  Moving on.

VOX is hard left leaning and even though they do not technically lie, they also only present one side with a left slant.  If you want a feel good about the left, go to VOX.  If you want a feel good about the right go to OAN.  If you want the truth do your own research.

Take the comments from VOX on Charlottesville and the Central Park 5. 

Charlottesville and what VOX wrote - If you lean left you loved it.  If you lean right, you hated it but if you are fair minded you read through VOX’s cleverly biased lay out of words.  Nope they are not lying however if they had posted the “transcript” of what Trump said it would take the punch out of what they wrote and how they chose to word it. You would be like hmmm Trump does not actually say that there are some fine white supremacist.

Central Park 5.  The ad Trump took out was not directed solely at the Central Park 5 but the crime that had been going on in the park. I think we all remember that or at least Home Alone 2 and Kevin in the scary central park.  Bless it.  Trump also said in his ad the families to include other races such as black, Hispanics, whites could no longer enjoy Central Park.  The Central Park 5 did confess to being part of the attack of the jogger, not the rape.  Some in the legal field continue to say that with the 5 first attacking the jogger gave the actual rapist the advantage.  They were guilty of other crimes in the park as well but exonerated on the rape of the jogger. It was decided to just drop all charges, by then they had served the time and more for the other crimes.  Trump disagreed with the decision and he still feels like they confessed to the rape as well.  VOX does not tell you any of that.

Today the term racism is too freely used to push a narrative.  That is terribly sad.  This is an assault on those that have been victims of true racism.  If we continue down the road of exploiting it in the way media outlets like VOX and "some people" do, true acts of racism will get lost in the mix and racism will never see an end.  JMHO



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vjls
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Posted 2020-10-03 1:08 PM
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Palopony - 2020-10-03 1:36 AM


vjls - 2020-10-02 2:01 PM


question  i have heard biden say racial slurs  but never heard trump say it


 


i did see him mock the guy that was handicapped


 


not talking about trumps companies or eployees or ..  trump himself.  i looked and could not  but biden oh yes


 


 



What about what he did in 1989, to the Central Park 5?  Not many people would take out a full page ad in a newspaper trying to reinstate the death penalty to kill teenagers.  I was really shocked when he refused to issue an apology when DNA finally freed them.


Just who doesn't he mock and make up names for?


recently like last 6 years  cause i can dang sure go get biden which is .....

 

plus people change  

 

i am talking recently

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Dirt Dobber
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Posted 2020-10-05 7:31 PM
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Edited my previous comments on Biden.  After his latest comment about a black woman stacking grocery shelves and dreamers being first responders, nurses, doctors during Covid I just can't give him a pass.  The media though will give him a pass.  It is like a friend of mine said, so she can't be a doctor or a nurse because she is black but she can stack a grocery shelf.  

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vjls
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Posted 2020-10-05 8:29 PM
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Dirt Dobber - 2020-10-05 8:31 PM


Edited my previous comments on Biden.  After his latest comment about a black woman stacking grocery shelves and dreamers being first responders, nurses, doctors during Covid I just can't give him a pass.  The media though will give him a pass.  It is like a friend of mine said, so she can't be a doctor or a nurse because she is black but she can stack a grocery shelf.  


are you serious someone acutally said that sheees  thats.....

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Posted 2020-10-05 8:49 PM
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vjls - 2020-10-05 8:29 PM


Dirt Dobber - 2020-10-05 8:31 PM


Edited my previous comments on Biden.  After his latest comment about a black woman stacking grocery shelves and dreamers being first responders, nurses, doctors during Covid I just can't give him a pass.  The media though will give him a pass.  It is like a friend of mine said, so she can't be a doctor or a nurse because she is black but she can stack a grocery shelf.  



are you serious someone acutally said that sheees  thats.....


You will have to watch the short clip.  I watched the entire Tampa event to make sure it wasn't being take out of context and it wasn't.  Dang.  Then James wood tweeted out a video where Biden told some girls he was going to come back because he wanted to see them dance when they are 4 years older.  Creepy.  Not sure where he was but it was recent since he had a mask on.

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Bear
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"And by the way, what you all know, but most people don’t know, unlike the African American community, with notable exceptions, the Latino community is an incredibly diverse community with incredibly different attitudes about different things.”

"Poor kids are just as talented, just as bright as white kids"

"You cannot go to a 7-Eleven or a Dunkin’ Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent. I’m not joking,” i

"Unless we do something about this, my children are going to grow up in a jungle, the jungle being a racial jungle with tensions having built so high that it is going to explode at some point."

"Trump is wrong to hold China accountable for the COVID-19 because Americans aren’t able to distinguish “between a South Korean and someone from Beijing.”

"If you don't vote for me, you ain't black".

"A portion of them, will become the predators 15 years from now."

 

......But there's no evidence Joe Biden is racist.

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