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| http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUC0JYm5_1M I know there is grass and I know I need to break it up. I have had a SERIOUSLY tough time getting my horse to take the left lead going around the barrel. I know there are no 'LEADS' on the trot. But is she grabbing with the correct leg going around?
BTW I know I suck. This horse is just rough to ride. She'll take the left lead loping/trotting in circles, or take it while lunging. But she for some reason, will not switch between barrel one and two, but will switch to the left on between barrel two and three. Which is seriously messed up because there's two lefts.
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Location: Oklahoma | Probably needs to go to the vet. When a horse doesn't want to take a lead or crossfires or switches in the turn or coming out of the turn, they're usually sore. That's probably also why she's rough. |
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| dianeguinn - 2013-09-20 8:05 PM
Probably needs to go to the vet. When a horse doesn't want to take a lead or crossfires or switches in the turn or coming out of the turn, they're usually sore. That's probably also why she's rough.
She's always been rough and I have had the chiro out for her multiple times. I was wondering if possibly switching barrels would help this since she goes right better, but I haven't done that yet. She's just always had a rough trot, the lope walk ect is all smooth but the trot is just horrid.
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| BaylenJaxs - 2013-09-20 8:07 PM dianeguinn - 2013-09-20 8:05 PM Probably needs to go to the vet. When a horse doesn't want to take a lead or crossfires or switches in the turn or coming out of the turn, they're usually sore. That's probably also why she's rough. She's always been rough and I have had the chiro out for her multiple times. I was wondering if possibly switching barrels would help this since she goes right better, but I haven't done that yet. She's just always had a rough trot, the lope walk ect is all smooth but the trot is just horrid.
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| Diann may very well be right.
I see a horse that has a bunch of moving parts and none of those parts look very comfortable.
I can't really tell from that video if she is uncomfortable because she's sore or if it's because she's not really sure what she's doing
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Location: Oklahoma | kmcsunshine - 2013-09-20 8:21 PM
BaylenJaxs - 2013-09-20 8:07 PM dianeguinn - 2013-09-20 8:05 PM Probably needs to go to the vet. When a horse doesn't want to take a lead or crossfires or switches in the turn or coming out of the turn, they're usually sore. That's probably also why she's rough. She's always been rough and I have had the chiro out for her multiple times. I was wondering if possibly switching barrels would help this since she goes right better, but I haven't done that yet. She's just always had a rough trot, the lope walk ect is all smooth but the trot is just horrid.
Was just fixing to post that. I said "vet". Not "chiro". Big difference. She looks sore to me, and the flicking tail just adds to that. |
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| Sore where? I had a exam done on her back legs and front not to long ago. She has windpuffs on her back fetlocks. The vet said she was fine and if its not bothering how now being almost 10 years old it probably never will.
Re-watching that video tons of times. It seems she does right completely fine, then we go to the left where she switches her tail twice and doesn't feel like really bending, she does that down at the second left as well. Maybe its time for another chiro treatment. The trainer I sent her to, said she had a tough time getting her to pick up her left lead to. So maybe its just her, or maybe she's out some where. If they chiro finds nothing wrong, I'll get her to the vet to do a good check over.
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Location: Florida.. | did you get xrays of hocks or just checked. I just watched video.. horse is clearly sore and to do so many circles in a fast trot didnt help.. if her hocks or stifle is sore that is quite painful..to switch ways wont help her. it may make he move better one way but shes still in pain so why not figure it out ..
she is trying. but hurts . also once you figure out and fix the issue My suggestion would be to SLOW down your work.. your trot is way to fast.. slow it down do slow work. and really get her supple and bending at ribs.. etc..off the pattern .... that will help her with her chiro issues..
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Location: NC | I had an issue with my gelding at the first. Some people told me he was sore, but we changed what we thought was wrong & he's been fine ever since. So if this is a one time thing, or 'only happens when..' then it may not be lameness. But if it's an ongoing thing that seems to be getting worse instead of better, it's probably soreness/lameness/adjustment issue. Or saddle fit. Or wrong bit. Or teeth. Any number of things.
She looks confused. And something is bothering her, whether that's soreness or the bit or the way your hands are or any number of things.
Take her to a good trainer or have someone ride her who really knows what they're doing. If they can't make her work, it's something more than just her being picky.
Get her looked at by a good lameness vet. Our chiro is a lameness vet who knows acupuncture too, so he can tell you what's wrong with the horse just from the acupuncture points. Not all chiros/vets are created equal, so just make sure you're going to a good one.
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| We've been at this a whole year. I don't know what more I could do or what more to say. Its not getting worse she just wont pick it up. We've done crap tons of slow work. I sent her to a trainer last year and she had the same issue, but got her to do it. So I'm probably riding her wrong. Im not making excuses and not taking what you guys have said. Because I am, I'll get all things checked out and if everything rules out, I'll send her back to the trainer. |
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Location: Washington | She hasn't a clue. She is fat and I got dizzy on the two left turns. |
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| fatchance - 2013-09-20 8:58 PM
She hasn't a clue. She is fat and I got dizzy on the two left turns.
She's not fat, she's been ridden all summer/spring long. I'm sorry you got dizzy. |
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Location: Washington | BaylenJaxs - 2013-09-20 7:00 PM fatchance - 2013-09-20 8:58 PM She hasn't a clue. She is fat and I got dizzy on the two left turns. She's not fat, she's been ridden all summer/spring long. I'm sorry you got dizzy.
SO tell us why and what you were trying to do by circling so many times to the left. I love to learn. |
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| fatchance - 2013-09-20 9:04 PM
BaylenJaxs - 2013-09-20 7:00 PM fatchance - 2013-09-20 8:58 PM She hasn't a clue. She is fat and I got dizzy on the two left turns. She's not fat, she's been ridden all summer/spring long. I'm sorry you got dizzy.
To try and get her to circle and bend? Why in any question I post do you have to be so absolutely rude? All I am wanting to do is help my horse and learn as well and all you do is bash and get snappy. |
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Location: Where the pavement ends and the West begins Utah | Your horse is really trying to stay off the left hind. If you had her shod recently pull the shoes may be a hot nail. It looks to be down low so I would start at the hoof and work your way up. Check for an abcess, pulled ligament, bone chips, then hock .  |
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Location: NC | After you get her looked at, start working UNDER a trainer. Get some lessons WITH your horse. If someone else is getting her to work but she won't work for you, then you need to find out why. You need another set of eyes out there telling you what to do or not to do. You need to learn to use your legs. Your legs are your biggest asset with a well trained horse, especially a barrel horse.
Lessons make a WORLD of difference. Trust me. I was clueless before I sought the help of others. I had no idea how to use my legs. I was just there, flopping around for the most part. I have learned more just in the past month than I have in the years I've been riding, just from watching other people & listening to what they've told me.
Find someone you trust & look up to & learn from them. Get your horse comfortable first, then work on both of you. And if this horse is just learning & you're learning too, you need to get some lessons on a FINISHED horse (while a trainer works with yours). I tried that road & all it did was lead to frustration. A finished horse can teach you SO many things. And you can take those lessons back to riding your own horse.
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| cow pie - 2013-09-20 9:10 PM
Your horse is really trying to stay off the left hind. If you had her shod recently pull the shoes may be a hot nail. It looks to be down low so I would start at the hoof and work your way up. Check for an abcess, pulled ligament, bone chips, then hock .
No she is barefoot. But thank you finally for giving me at least an idea of where to start! |
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| hlynn - 2013-09-20 9:11 PM
After you get her looked at, start working UNDER a trainer. Get some lessons WITH your horse. If someone else is getting her to work but she won't work for you, then you need to find out why. You need another set of eyes out there telling you what to do or not to do. You need to learn to use your legs. Your legs are your biggest asset with a well trained horse, especially a barrel horse.
Lessons make a WORLD of difference. Trust me. I was clueless before I sought the help of others. I had no idea how to use my legs. I was just there, flopping around for the most part. I have learned more just in the past month than I have in the years I've been riding, just from watching other people & listening to what they've told me.
Find someone you trust & look up to & learn from them. Get your horse comfortable first, then work on both of you. And if this horse is just learning & you're learning too, you need to get some lessons on a FINISHED horse (while a trainer works with yours). I tried that road & all it did was lead to frustration. A finished horse can teach you SO many things. And you can take those lessons back to riding your own horse.
THANK YOU. I do have a lady i started lessons with last year, that I will be starting back up with again soon I talked to her last week. My other barrel mare and I do fine, we are loping and adding speed, we connect and she tries for me. My chestnut and this one are just so different. Thank you for your advice! |
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Location: Washington | BaylenJaxs - 2013-09-20 7:05 PM fatchance - 2013-09-20 9:04 PM BaylenJaxs - 2013-09-20 7:00 PM fatchance - 2013-09-20 8:58 PM She hasn't a clue. She is fat and I got dizzy on the two left turns. She's not fat, she's been ridden all summer/spring long. I'm sorry you got dizzy. To try and get her to circle and bend? Why in any question I post do you have to be so absolutely rude? All I am wanting to do is help my horse and learn as well and all you do is bash and get snappy.
Not snappy and bashing, Your horse hasn't a clue on what and why.
IF you think I am rude, it was not my intent. But you continue not to learn when so many here have given you fantastic advice.
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Location: Florida.. | get xrays .. you said the trainer had a hard time with it as well.. but got it.. trainers can get them to do it with pain as well.. if they are good .. doesnt mean shes not in pain.Xrays is my opinion .then lessons.. and LOTS of slow work
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