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| We just traded a ranch bred bucking 3 year old for a finished cutting stud. Our original plan was to have him gelded right away. He is by no means stud material. When I saw him there was nothing about him that said "this is a stud prospect."
He is 6, has never covered mares, has a decent pedigree, is VERY broke and is very managable. If he looked better I would probably leave him in tact but he is narrow in his chest, stands about 14.2 and has a "bullet" butt. We will be starting him in the box and on the pattern immediately.
We don't keep horses that aren't going to make what we want. There is no reason for me to feed something I know is not going to make a horse for us. My question for all of you who sell a lot of horses, do you think he would market better as an ugly stud with good papers, or as an ugly late cut gelding with good papers? My gut feeling is to have him cut right away but I need to look at it as a business move that will potentially have the most re-sell value.
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| You don't want to come off as an "ignorant" stallion owner so cut him! |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | I vote Cut |
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Location: Midwest | gelding |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | Cut him......I'd like to see pictures :) |
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| illlookup - 2013-11-18 10:40 AM
You don't want to come off as an "ignorant" stallion owner so cut him!
Haha! That was exactly my thought! When I saw him I was like "Why in the Hell would you leave that a stud!" |
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| Way too many of those types already. Cut the sucker
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| cyount2009 - 2013-11-18 10:44 AM
illlookup - 2013-11-18 10:40 AM
You don't want to come off as an "ignorant" stallion owner so cut him!
Haha! That was exactly my thought! When I saw him I was like "Why in the Hell would you leave that a stud!"
Lol!! See, your instincts were spot on IMO. |
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| Geld him, a well mannered late cut stud will always be more marketable than a well mannered stud with questionable conformation. I have sold quite a few horses. I rarely sell stallion prospects, mainly because I don't ever think that a true stallion prospect can be bought/sold for the average price range I sell horses in. I did although have one phenomenal stud colt that would have really done some good to the gene pool, I couldn't sell him for about 4 months. I had him gelded and sold him 3 weeks later no problem. |
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| LRQHS - 2013-11-18 10:44 AM
Cut him......I'd like to see pictures :)
I don't have any, but I'll try to get some this evening. He looks and is super athletic and quick but he is certainly nothing to look at! He has a cute face though! |
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| There are a lot of average studs out there, actually too many. Unless his papers are amazing and he has a performance record I would geld him! |
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Location: South Georgia | Geld |
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Location: Somewhere between raising hell and Amazing Grace | Vote for geld as well |
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Location: las vegas nv | geld him, there are a ton more buyers for geldings than studs even if they are stud quality
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| Geld him... I wont even look at a stud because i have too many mares at home and would be afraid of them hooking up... |
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| cyount2009 - 2013-11-18 10:38 AM
We just traded a ranch bred bucking 3 year old for a finished cutting stud. Our original plan was to have him gelded right away. He is by no means stud material. When I saw him there was nothing about him that said "this is a stud prospect."
He is 6, has never covered mares, has a decent pedigree, is VERY broke and is very managable. If he looked better I would probably leave him in tact but he is narrow in his chest, stands about 14.2 and has a "bullet" butt. We will be starting him in the box and on the pattern immediately.
We don't keep horses that aren't going to make what we want. There is no reason for me to feed something I know is not going to make a horse for us. My question for all of you who sell a lot of horses, do you think he would market better as an ugly stud with good papers, or as an ugly late cut gelding with good papers? My gut feeling is to have him cut right away but I need to look at it as a business move that will potentially have the most re-sell value.
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/theoutlawjoseywales
Looking at what you used to trade for him ... you could not have much money invested in this new horse and from your description of him he is not worth the time to train him in events that do require some speed and physical strength ....
and the cost of gelding him should just about equal what you have in the entire project other than a feed bill ... just take him and dump him at a sale
AND START ALL OVER ... |
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Location: Beggs, OK | Having him castrated will save all of us from seeing his Craigslist ad later on for his $250 stud fee. Just consider the cost as doing your part to reduce the number of unwanted horses going to slaughter.
There are too many people creating little horsie babies that they think look good on paper from conformationally inferior stallions. |
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Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | Geld. I geld almost every colt I get. I left one a colt 3 years ago. He's a gelding now as well. They are so much easier to sell. Like someone already mentioned many people avoid any stallions. They don't want the headache and if he's got poor conformation, do the world a favor and eliminate any possibility he will find his way to somebody that will bred anything to anything because they have a famous relative and end up with something only good for the slaughter pen.  |
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Location: Great NW | Geld ~ a mediocre stud is ALWAYS A nice Gelding. Way more people looking for Geldings too. |
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Location: North Dakota | Keep him a STUD!!!!!
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I am totally kidding. Just wanted to be the one who said something different since there was already endless replies to geld. 
But of course, that is the right answer. I would be gelding him immediately.
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