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Location: Texas! | When someone advertises a horse as 1d2d do ya'll get frustrated when you google said horse's registered name and come up with 3d/4d results? I've got 2 horses right people have told me are 1d/2d now that this has happened with me, I know we all have bad days and bad runs even on the best horse, but if the only results you can find are NOT in the 1 or 2D frustrates me... 
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Location: Texas | Yep. Finally asked myself why do I have my gelding for sale, when he's exactly what I am looking for??? I got tired of searching through ads looking at horses who claimed to be in the 1D and 2D and finding maybe one 2d result somewhere in a ton of 3D results. When here my own ad had a LIST of his 1D and 2D MONEY EARNING runs. So I figured why sell what's not broke. LOL.
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Location: north dakota | When I had my horse for sale I had you tube videos along with the adds labeled with the date, barrel race and where it was at and approx how many runners. Adds with that info should weed out some of the horses
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Location: I call the back seat on the short bus!! | Ahhhhh...the old Classic "1D/2D" label.
And when ya call 'em on their less-than-ethical business practices??
"Well....They're 1D SOMEWHERE." like in the pasture at home??? uuuggghhh
Speaking of less-than-ethical practices...having a "Pre-purchase exam" done by your husband the small animal vet is NOT COOL. Done ranting now. Have to laff at the idjits who believe it and buy said horses...and stick up for the losers afterwards. OK I had to add a bit more.  |
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Location: Oklahoma | I just listed my 1 and 2d horse, and unfortunately since I never thought I'd sell her, a lot of races were not entered with her registered name. Also, I've had her for so long and trained her myself, so there has been several 3d/4d runs those first few years, plus my first few runs back after me having babies and taking a long break :-)
Not sure if this is the same for other people, but possible. I did however put a bunch of videos with my ad, so hopefully that will show how she usually runs |
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| ndcowgirl - 2013-11-23 12:25 AM When I had my horse for sale I had you tube videos along with the adds labeled with the date, barrel race and where it was at and approx how many runners. Adds with that info should weed out some of the horses
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| It all goes back to doing your homework. What one person interprets as 1D another considers something else. The other factor to consider is consistency-and that is where it is not black and blue and people will draw their own conclusions off of that.
ETA: I meant black and white!!!!! LOL!!!! I had not had my coffee yet when I posted this!
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | We have a local fruitcake that tries selling horses as 1D/rodeo when she's lucky to be in the 3D at small jackpots. Drives me nuts. I have had people contact me on her horses before they write the check for them, I have no problem showing them the results to any of the jackpots I have produced.
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Location: Idaho | I agree! What blows my mind is in a day and age where everything is online and easily looked up, why people blatently lie about this kind of thing. I have looked up lots of horses that are advertised for a bunch of money and they say they won this and that and I can't find anything on them. When I put videos online I try to always put in the comments section of the video- where the race was, date, time my horse ran, time that won it, how many entries, and where my horse placed ( like won 2nd in the 2d, or was in the bottom of the 1d) that way if I ever want to sell, I have it all written down for everyone to see and look up to confirm. In my for sale ad I always tell people where to find results. I'd rather sell a horse for less money to someone who knows what they are getting, than sell a horse for a lot more money to someone who thinks they have something they don't. |
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Location: kansas | I sold a horse a few years ago and the girl kept asking me what her times were. I kept telling her that we had no arenas the same size, and I had never run her in a standard size pen. All I could tell her that she was 2D locally (85-100) head and at the large races she was 4D. I always take the 1D/2D with a grain of salt because back in Indiana the local jackpots usually have 80 head or better and since moving to Kansas you are lucky to see 30. What I am more concerned with is how they run at the large shows and that can be misleading. Sold a gelding that with me was only 3D or 4D, the people I sold them too won big time in the 1D with him. Difference in the push and weight. You cannot judge by the division but must look at the horse. |
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Location: High heels in the air... | Depends on how it is advertised....records do speak...but what if the horse trips or the rider is not that good of a hand? If they work the way I like and look like they have some speed, I would go ride it...also, the level of competition has a lot to do with it...placing 1d at a small jackpot or placing at a large event is two different things in my opinion |
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I Really Love Jeans
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Location: North Dakota | When I was shopping back in the summer I went to try a gelding, she wanted $15,000k for him. She told me he had a reining horse handle, anyone from 2 to 99 could ride him etc... I drove half the day to go see him, I even started to take my trailer. I liked the looks of the horse but as soon as I step on he takes off and starts running all over the place. I gather him up and try to give him a chance but he clearly doesn't know a thing. He rides like a mule. I step off and tell her nicely he doesn't have a good handle at all, she gets mad and goes into a rant that she doesn't have junk horses etc.....Now I haven't said anything bad and have been nice the entire time but the owner blows up. I was so mad that I spent all day and $200 in gas to ride a mule. It really comes down to luck when shopping for a horse because even if they ride great the chance of a soundness issue showing up is likely !! And also the chance of the horse not being what is represented is likely!! |
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Location: North Dakota | Well I had a very nice 1d/2d horse for sale I just sold a couple months ago and when I googled my name or my horses, I couldn't find any results except for a couple of bad days when we were in the 3d. So you can't always trust google search. But I did refer people to the associations I ran in and they had all the results on their website. And I always ran my horse under her registered name. |
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Location: Georgia | blyellowrose - 2013-11-23 11:22 AM Well I had a very nice 1d/2d horse for sale I just sold a couple months ago and when I googled my name or my horses, I couldn't find any results except for a couple of bad days when we were in the 3d. So you can't always trust google search. But I did refer people to the associations I ran in and they had all the results on their website. And I always ran my horse under her registered name.
This ^. My mare is a solid 2D horse but at this past world show we had some pretty awful runs - I think one was even in the 4D, which is just terrible. And I know since its NBHA it will pop up on google if anyone were to search her registered name. Im not saying to not trust google, because ive used it myself on several occasions. Just know there are some exceptions. Even nice horses have bad days. |
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I Really Love Jeans
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Location: North Dakota | I drove all day to try a horse that was advertised as having everything I was looking for. I drove a long way and spent a ton on gas and the horse rode like a mule. If it takes two hand to drag you horses head around to turn it and both hands and feet to get it stopped it does NOT have a good handle, much less a reining horse handle!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Its the sellers dishonesty period! I don't think it is possible to find a true 1-D horse that is sound completely' The only way you will get a horse like that is word of mouth or build your own. Nobody needs to advertise a good horse and they usually don't!! |
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| I LOVE all the adds that say 1 D or pro rodeo potential - they all have potential - until you swing a leg over |
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Location: Texas! | I agree with ya'll that if you look up my horse's name since I trained him we have loads of 3/4 results and heck some are even recent from off runs but I also have videos of us winning jackpots or our 1d/2d runs in big entried jackpots. I feel like if you know you and the horse don't click then explain that, I sold a mare that I KNEW was a good solid 1D with a good fit but I couldn't do her justice and I explained that to anyone who asked. |
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| how do you google ?i just typed timeformend in aand could not find anything |
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Location: Ky | News flash, sellers lie! |
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Location: Texas! | jd&ez - 2013-11-23 12:47 PM
News flash, sellers lie!
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