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stetchkk
Reg. Mar 2008
Posted 2013-11-25 2:20 PM
Subject: Equal Payouts


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So we have a barrel racing club where I live that does equal payouts at each barrel race. Where the top 1d horses get paid the exact same as a 4d horse at every monthly jackpot. Now there is another club starting here and they are having everyone vote on what they want - equal or not. I don't think this is right, but for some reason I know I will be outnumbered by the girls around here. Just curious of the thoughts from you guys. Do you think this is fair? Would you support these races?
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kakbarrelracer
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2013-11-25 2:25 PM
Subject: RE: Equal Payouts



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 I don't think equal payouts are fair.
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DD2012
Reg. Apr 2012
Posted 2013-11-25 2:25 PM
Subject: RE: Equal Payouts


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I think equal payout is awesome


Why should someone get paid more than me, just because they out ran me by a second and a half?





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clover girl
Reg. Dec 2005
Posted 2013-11-25 2:30 PM
Subject: RE: Equal Payouts



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This is a highly debated topic.  You can do a search on here and probably find another (really long and heated) thread about this subject.  There are good arguments for both sides, but in reality it all just depends on the producer.  In my area there are many races of each kind and they all draw about the same amount of contestants, and usually many of the same contestants. 

IMO the fastest run should get the biggest paycheck, and last place in the bottom D should get at least their fees back.
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graciemay
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2013-11-25 2:34 PM
Subject: RE: Equal Payouts



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I do not agree with equal payouts. Very single place after 1st in the 1D is crap shoot, the horse and rider that actually win the race deserve the bigger payout, IMO.
Also, my good mare runs anywhere from 3D to 1D, and that is still my stance.  
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God Is My Light
Reg. Nov 2013
Posted 2013-11-25 2:36 PM
Subject: RE: Equal Payouts





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DD2012 - 2013-11-25 2:25 PM

I think equal payout is awesome


Why should someone get paid more than me, just because they out ran me by a second and a half?






Exactly !!!!! Enough said.
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runs4fun
Reg. Oct 2006
Posted 2013-11-25 2:43 PM
Subject: RE: Equal Payouts





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DD2012 - 2013-11-25 3:25 PM I think equal payout is awesome Why should someone get paid more than me, just because they out ran me by a second and a half?
That's right!  And why should a solid 1D horse sell for $50,000 and my 4D only for $4,500, I think he's worth the same $50,000 as that 1D horse!  I'm an EO barrel racer, equal opportunity for barrel racers to all make the same from placings to horse sales!   That way the professional trainer and riders can relax and quit working so hard to outrun the rest of us!

Edited by runs4fun 2013-11-25 2:44 PM
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graciemay
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2013-11-25 2:50 PM
Subject: RE: Equal Payouts



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DD2012 - 2013-11-25 1:25 PM I think equal payout is awesome Why should someone get paid more than me, just because they out ran me by a second and a half?

The horse that ran a second and half faster than you won the race. Their time enabled you to fall into a D and get a check. 
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Nevertooold
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2013-11-25 2:50 PM
Subject: RE: Equal Payouts



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Obama highly approves of equal payout.
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TXBO
Reg. Aug 2009
Posted 2013-11-25 2:51 PM
Subject: RE: Equal Payouts



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runs4fun - 2013-11-25 2:43 PM
DD2012 - 2013-11-25 3:25 PM I think equal payout is awesome Why should someone get paid more than me, just because they out ran me by a second and a half?
That's right!  And why should a solid 1D horse sell for $50,000 and my 4D only for $4,500, I think he's worth the same $50,000 as that 1D horse!  I'm an EO barrel racer, equal opportunity for barrel racers to all make the same from placings to horse sales!   That way the professional trainer and riders can relax and quit working so hard to outrun the rest of us!

So you don't like the D system then? 
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runs4fun
Reg. Oct 2006
Posted 2013-11-25 2:51 PM
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Nevertooold - 2013-11-25 3:50 PM Obama highly approves of equal payout.

You are right!  It's what he calls redistributing the wealthy or as Webster's Dictionary calls it - Socialism. 
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TXBO
Reg. Aug 2009
Posted 2013-11-25 2:52 PM
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Nevertooold - 2013-11-25 2:50 PM Obama highly approves of equal payout.

Sounds like he designed the 4D. 
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DD2012
Reg. Apr 2012
Posted 2013-11-25 2:54 PM
Subject: RE: Equal Payouts


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graciemay - 2013-11-25 2:50 PM

DD2012 - 2013-11-25 1:25 PM I think equal payout is awesome Why should someone get paid more than me, just because they out ran me by a second and a half?

The horse that ran a second and half faster than you won the race. Their time enabled you to fall into a D and get a check. 

They won a D

I won a D


We both paid entry and we both hauled in and made a run.

No way that they should be paid more, just for running faster.

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TXBO
Reg. Aug 2009
Posted 2013-11-25 2:55 PM
Subject: RE: Equal Payouts



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runs4fun - 2013-11-25 2:51 PM
Nevertooold - 2013-11-25 3:50 PM Obama highly approves of equal payout.
You are right!  It's what he calls redistributing the wealthy or as Webster's Dictionary calls it - Socialism. 

If you're going to remove the socialism from barrel racing, do it right.

No more D system, pay one hole..... winner take all.

Short of that, you're still a commie. 
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runs4fun
Reg. Oct 2006
Posted 2013-11-25 2:56 PM
Subject: RE: Equal Payouts





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TXBO - 2013-11-25 3:51 PM
runs4fun - 2013-11-25 2:43 PM
DD2012 - 2013-11-25 3:25 PM I think equal payout is awesome Why should someone get paid more than me, just because they out ran me by a second and a half?
That's right!  And why should a solid 1D horse sell for $50,000 and my 4D only for $4,500, I think he's worth the same $50,000 as that 1D horse!  I'm an EO barrel racer, equal opportunity for barrel racers to all make the same from placings to horse sales!   That way the professional trainer and riders can relax and quit working so hard to outrun the rest of us!
So you don't like the D system then? 

I do like the D system (I'd NEVER make a ck without them) but I don't think the winner of the entire barrel race should get paid equal to anyone...every place after winner, I don't have too much of a problem with how they choose to pay it but the WINNER is the WINNER, in my opinion.  Having said that, I realize that when whoever wins the 3D gets paid more than someone who placed in the 1D it's still kind of backwards to what I'm saying.  It basically comes down in the end to not entering barrel races where we don't agree with the rules or entering and keeping our opinions to ourselves.
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mruggles
Reg. Oct 2008
Posted 2013-11-25 2:56 PM
Subject: RE: Equal Payouts



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I guess it is just what you are used to.....99% of our races are equal.....or we could just go back to top 6 places and everybody else go home with nadda.......lolM
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graciemay
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2013-11-25 2:57 PM
Subject: RE: Equal Payouts



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DD2012 - 2013-11-25 1:54 PM
graciemay - 2013-11-25 2:50 PM
DD2012 - 2013-11-25 1:25 PM I think equal payout is awesome Why should someone get paid more than me, just because they out ran me by a second and a half?
The horse that ran a second and half faster than you won the race. Their time enabled you to fall into a D and get a check. 
They won a D I won a D We both paid entry and we both hauled in and made a run. No way that they should be paid more, just for running faster.

If that's what you think, that's fine. I don't agree. And that's fine too.  
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polorunner
Reg. Nov 2005
Posted 2013-11-25 2:57 PM
Subject: RE: Equal Payouts



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There is a very nice arena about 3 hours from me, that does equal payout. I have never run there because it is equal payout. I don't agree with it at all.  
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runs4fun
Reg. Oct 2006
Posted 2013-11-25 2:57 PM
Subject: RE: Equal Payouts





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DD2012 - 2013-11-25 3:54 PM
graciemay - 2013-11-25 2:50 PM
DD2012 - 2013-11-25 1:25 PM I think equal payout is awesome Why should someone get paid more than me, just because they out ran me by a second and a half?
The horse that ran a second and half faster than you won the race. Their time enabled you to fall into a D and get a check. 
They won a D I won a D We both paid entry and we both hauled in and made a run. No way that they should be paid more, just for running faster.

So you shouldn't enter barrel races that don't pay equal and I shouldn't enter the ones that do pay equal...problem solved!   
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RLB
Reg. Dec 2009
Posted 2013-11-25 2:58 PM
Subject: RE: Equal Payouts



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graciemay - 2013-11-25 2:57 PM
DD2012 - 2013-11-25 1:54 PM
graciemay - 2013-11-25 2:50 PM
DD2012 - 2013-11-25 1:25 PM I think equal payout is awesome Why should someone get paid more than me, just because they out ran me by a second and a half?
The horse that ran a second and half faster than you won the race. Their time enabled you to fall into a D and get a check. 
They won a D I won a D We both paid entry and we both hauled in and made a run. No way that they should be paid more, just for running faster.
If that's what you think, that's fine. I don't agree. And that's fine too.  
I think...I THINK there is a sarcastic tone being missed here. But I could be wrong.

Edited by RLB 2013-11-25 2:59 PM
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