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 "Drank the Kool Aid"
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Location: Iowa, LA | I spent last night at the pet emergency clinic with my Doberman. He had no symptoms until the last 24 hrs....hacking and then began labored breathing. They've had him on oxygen all night and lasix. What kind of road am I in for? What are your experiences with this? He's not exactly a laid-back dog. I'm hoping to pick him up this afternoon and we will see our normal vet on Monday. |
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Location: Florida.. | I think key is to keep his fluids down with lasix.. is he older?
Maintenance and keeping him comfortable.. heres a bump though |
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Location: Red Raiderland | I'm sorry to hear the news about your Dobie.  Unfortunately Dobermans are known for heart problems as a breed. We lost our last Dobie at the age of 7 to a sudden heart attack. Dobermans should have a holter test done periodically to check for any heart conditions. How old is your boy? What does the vet say about his prognosis? |
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"Drank the Kool Aid"
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Location: Iowa, LA | He will turn six in March. He's never had anything to give my vet worry about his heart...no murmur. He's been totally healthy until now. He's my first Dobie, but I've had 6 Great Danes with every other kind of large breed issue, except this! I worry about keeping him quiet. Dobies aren't exactly the laid back couch potatoes that Danes are. Other than texting back and forth last night on what could be wrong, my vet did not discuss prognosis. She did call the clinic last night to talk to the vet there. I just don't have a clue how long they can live on lasix and what the maintenance will be for him. Also, he's got a sister waiting for him at home.....hopefully I can keep them from playing as hard as they normally do.
Just talked to his breeder and she said normally they do show symptoms beforehand ,but it certainly can come on this fast.
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Location: Florida.. | I meant to say Im sorry hes sick as well. and prayers to him being healthy.. maintenance is lasix .. and I do know it shortens their life span.. thats all i know.. my lab had it but she was 16 and it was time..to let go.. it was a 4 month issue and it just got worse and her health declined rapidly but she was older..
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Location: Kansas | I've personally never had to deal with it, but many hugs and prayers to you two.  |
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"Drank the Kool Aid"
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Location: Iowa, LA | Bibliafarm - 2013-12-08 10:55 AM I meant to say Im sorry hes sick as well. and prayers to him being healthy.. maintenance is lasix .. and I do know it shortens their life span.. thats all i know.. my lab had it but she was 16 and it was time..to let go.. it was a 4 month issue and it just got worse and her health declined rapidly but she was older..
Thank you...losing them so young is so tough with these large breeds :-( |
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| I had a boxer live for 6 years on meds. I didn't limit her active just let her do how much she wanted. |
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"Drank the Kool Aid"
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Thank you...we appreciate it...I'm just ready to get him back home so I can love on him. |
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Location: Red Raiderland | annemarea - 2013-12-08 10:51 AM He will turn six in March. He's never had anything to give my vet worry about his heart...no murmur. He's been totally healthy until now. He's my first Dobie, but I've had 6 Great Danes with every other kind of large breed issue, except this! I worry about keeping him quiet. Dobies aren't exactly the laid back couch potatoes that Danes are. Other than texting back and forth last night on what could be wrong, my vet did not discuss prognosis. She did call the clinic last night to talk to the vet there. I just don't have a clue how long they can live on lasix and what the maintenance will be for him. Also, he's got a sister waiting for him at home.....hopefully I can keep them from playing as hard as they normally do.
Just talked to his breeder and she said normally they do show symptoms beforehand ,but it certainly can come on this fast.
Aint that the truth! Our girl we lost was running crazy chasing birds in the yard one minute and the next she had died. Our current girl is just as high energy. You will have a tough time keeping him calm, it's just their nature to be monkey wild. When I was a kid we did have a Dachshund that suffered from CHF and she lived to be 16. My mom had to give her daily meds but she stayed pretty darn healthy and that was back in the 70's. |
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Location: Iowa, LA | aggie5184 - 2013-12-08 11:04 AM I had a boxer live for 6 years on meds. I didn't limit her active just let her do how much she wanted.
Wow! I hope he can do what he wants! He's so funny....he loves being on "Walker Duty" and watching the horses to let me know if one gets off or stops the walker. His daddy is worried about him getting so worked up on Walker Duty. LOL |
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| they can live quite a while on the lasix. The maintenance dose may change every now and then and probably a few times at the beginning. Your pet will let you know when its time for an adjustment. I'm sorry...it's so hard to see your pets uncomfortable and not be able to tell them why they feel bad. :-( |
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"Drank the Kool Aid"
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Location: Iowa, LA | Kaycee - 2013-12-08 11:05 AM annemarea - 2013-12-08 10:51 AM He will turn six in March. He's never had anything to give my vet worry about his heart...no murmur. He's been totally healthy until now. He's my first Dobie, but I've had 6 Great Danes with every other kind of large breed issue, except this! I worry about keeping him quiet. Dobies aren't exactly the laid back couch potatoes that Danes are. Other than texting back and forth last night on what could be wrong, my vet did not discuss prognosis. She did call the clinic last night to talk to the vet there. I just don't have a clue how long they can live on lasix and what the maintenance will be for him. Also, he's got a sister waiting for him at home.....hopefully I can keep them from playing as hard as they normally do.
Just talked to his breeder and she said normally they do show symptoms beforehand ,but it certainly can come on this fast. Aint that the truth! Our girl we lost was running crazy chasing birds in the yard one minute and the next she had died. Our current girl is just as high energy. You will have a tough time keeping him calm, it's just their nature to be monkey wild. When I was a kid we did have a Dachshund that suffered from CHF and she lived to be 16. My mom had to give her daily meds but she stayed pretty darn healthy and that was back in the 70's.
 They are pretty much Crack Heads! LOL Thanks for sharing your experience! |
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Location: Iowa, LA | RodeoCowgirl4u - 2013-12-08 11:08 AM they can live quite a while on the lasix. The maintenance dose may change every now and then and probably a few times at the beginning. Your pet will let you know when its time for an adjustment. I'm sorry...it's so hard to see your pets uncomfortable and not be able to tell them why they feel bad. :-(
He had gotten so bad last night before I left, that I honestly told my vet I'd rather put him down than see him suffer. He was panting hard just standing there and that was WITH oxygen. I can't imagaine how it feels to not be able to breathe. And he had traces of blood coming out of his nose...it was running like crazy as though he had a cold. I really didn't think he'd make it through the night. |
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Location: somewhere between here and the next barrel race | Prayers.. so sad. Now, let's hear some GOOD NEWS. (It's so hard to "feel" them when they are in pain...  ). Hopefully, the latest report will be GOOD news ? !
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Location: Central Montana | Hopefully your vet can help get him on the right track and give you both some more years together. One of our best dogs was a Dobie. He was about 13, I know, old for a large breed dog, when the congestive heart failure hit him. We had a lot of great years, because of his age and advancing arthritis we chose to put him down. If he had been young we would have looked at every option. |
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Location: OH. IO | When I took my Lab in to the vet, she didnt think he would make it through the night. He last 3 more years, the drug VETMEDIN, is a wonderful med, almost instant responce to it,that being said, it is VERY EXPENSIVE. I paid 96 dollars every 15 days for 3 years. Important things that help.keep your dog out of the extreme heat,extreme cold,Our Cole was a beautiful boy, we miss him dearly,and vetmedin was our saving grace for a few years.GOOD LUCK. |
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"Drank the Kool Aid"
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Location: Iowa, LA | Just picked up my boy. He was sent home with Lasix and vet said today's chest x-rays show about 50% less fluid in chest than what he had last night. He's pretty tired, but happy to be back home and have his blankie to nurse on!
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"Drank the Kool Aid"
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Location: Iowa, LA | GoinJettin - 2013-12-08 12:03 PM Hopefully your vet can help get him on the right track and give you both some more years together. One of our best dogs was a Dobie. He was about 13, I know, old for a large breed dog, when the congestive heart failure hit him. We had a lot of great years, because of his age and advancing arthritis we chose to put him down. If he had been young we would have looked at every option.
13! That would be awesome if I could keep him that long! I've had horrible luck with losing my Danes all between 6-7 yrs old. I love Danes soooo much, but losing them is heartbreaking. I'm so happy my boy is back home with me. It's so hard to leave them at the vet's. |
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Location: Red Raiderland | I am so happy for you and your boy!!!  He is home and it sounds like they are getting a good hold on the fluid. Your Dobie and mine could be brother and sister. My girl has the same collar, too. Mine doesn't seem to have the Dobie "nursing" thing but our last girl sure did. They are such great dogs.
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