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Location: MD | Okay y'all! Let's do this the right way. This might actually be beneficial to a few of us.
Starting at the top and working my way down the list, I'll give my observations, input, etc...
Sherry- Obviously, Sherry is always super correct. I'll bet we've all noted that she's having to be more aggressive and stay two handed longer than normal in order to keep Stingray square coming into the pockets. Boy, she sure is doing a great job!
Mary- It has seemed to me that while Mary has a wonderful style, the couple of barrels that have come down for her seem to have happened as a result of Mary trying to ride "away" from the barrel, rather than hustle through the turn and continuing to go passed them.
Michelle- Michelle, as a first time qualifier and on a horse who is relatively young and unseasoned made a very wise decision in the first go and made a super smooth, correct run that allowed both she and Slick a ton of confidence, which they have been building on run by run.
Kaley- I was a bit concerned after the First round for Kaley. Things seem to have righted themselves in the left turns however. The one thing that I'm concerned about is that lean at the 2nd barrel that she's been displaying this week. Thankfully, it hasn't caught with her.... yet.
Taylor- What a fun and exciting team this is! I think the couple of simple mistakes that caught her in the first two rounds can be attributed to "jitters" more than anything. She seems to be riding aggressively, sitting square and keeping her focus now.
Christy- I feel for Christy. I think we all expected Movin' to maybe take more of a shine to this pen than she has. Although, I'm not really sure why. I fell in love with this mare watching her dominate on BIG patterns and this is anything but. I feel like Christy has made some very wise decisions and is setting herself and Movin up for some great runs to be had in the T&M over the years to come.
Fallon- BabyFlo is a super tricky mare to run. She also doesn't have a whole lot of handle to work with. I'd love to see Fallon get two handed leaving the 2nd barrel and really drive for a spot deeper down the pen, like maybe the heeling box!
Sabrina- I feel like Sabrina has been dealing with it all rather well. If she could get a finish on the first barrel, thus a better approach/entry to the 2nd, she'd be super solid in the rounds.
Brittany- I was super glad to see Britt get on Teddy. I think from here on out, we'll see the sorts of runs that we did from this team last night.
Lisa- Louie seemed to me to be lacking his trademark fluidity through his body in the turns in the first couple of rounds. He seems to be softening up now. As always, Lisa has given him a great ride. This team almost always nail their patterns and I don't expect that to change anytime soon.
Sydni- I don't blame Syd for switching to Clancy, but I'd for sure like to see her get back on the mare. Not sure when, or why Clancy was switched to the left, but it appears to me as though he keeps wanting to fade back over to the left barrel after turning his second, which is really eroding his times.
Jane- I like the pairing of Jane and Blackie. They seem to have sorted out the resistance they were fighting at the third barrel in the first couple of rounds. I think they've been laying down consistent runs and foresee them doing well in the average.
Trula- I feel like Worm just keeps planting that inside hind harder and harder with each go. Trula's going to need to do some work at free-ing that sucker up if she plans to get back into the game.
Shada- Dial It seems to be finding his groove inside the T&M. Now that he knows where the first barrel is, I think we'll continue to see runs like they had last night. He's never been the most shapey, or round sort and his stiffer style might be causing him to bounce out of the ground a bit, thus slowing their times, but I applaud the steady progress that they have been making.
Jean- Zan is working well, but his straighter approach to the barrels makes maneuvering through the pattern at the T&M even more difficult. I think Jean has done a commendable job of trying to make the best of it. |
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Location: MI | I really enjoyed reading this. Thank you. I certainly enjoy watching the girls run, I can tell they're all working their tushes off and their awesome! |
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 Own It and Move On
Location: The edge of no where | Very well written.
We had Lisa on our fantasy team last year and it seemed like Louie got better and better as the week went on. I think they'll get in there for some more round money. I love watching how correctly and quietly Lisa rides.
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Location: WYOMING | Oh none of those girls can ride... if they want me to critique their run videos from each night have them email me. I am sure I can get that Bo horse fixed before tonight! |
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  A Lady with Fight
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Location: NC | I've seen still frames of Fallon's runs where she's knocked the third. Last night, she was holding her off with all of her might, & Flo still dropped that shoulder.
Do you think it's a bad habit she's picked up? Or more of a rider not doing EVERYTHING they can to keep her up (driving up, using two hands, using more leg, etc)? Do you think she would be having the same issue with a shanked bit?
These are questions I've been having about what's going on. I know she's switching to Nefertiti tonight.
BabyFlo is so much fun to watch too. I hate that she keeps having issues with that third. Her first barrel keeps getting better & better. |
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 You get what you give
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Location: Texas | I love the camera angles… I've been able to visualize where their horses are in the turns and where mine need to be! its been cool |
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I AM being nice
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Location: MD | hlynn - 2013-12-09 1:30 PM
I've seen still frames of Fallon's runs where she's knocked the third. Last night, she was holding her off with all of her might, & Flo still dropped that shoulder.
Do you think it's a bad habit she's picked up? Or more of a rider not doing EVERYTHING they can to keep her up (driving up, using two hands, using more leg, etc)? Do you think she would be having the same issue with a shanked bit?
These are questions I've been having about what's going on. I know she's switching to Nefertiti tonight.
BabyFlo is so much fun to watch too. I hate that she keeps having issues with that third. Her first barrel keeps getting better & better.
I think BabyFlo is a very flat turner. The T&M is brutal on a horse with that style. I think that all of the inside leg and rein in the world isn't going to hold that mare off. Two hands and just try and make her smack into the back fence to free her up for a run. Sure, it won't get you a check, but it might tune her a bit for the next round. I'll be interested to see how Nefertiti handles that set up. |
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Location: Deep South | hlynn - 2013-12-09 1:30 PM
I've seen still frames of Fallon's runs where she's knocked the third. Last night, she was holding her off with all of her might, & Flo still dropped that shoulder.
Do you think it's a bad habit she's picked up? Or more of a rider not doing EVERYTHING they can to keep her up (driving up, using two hands, using more leg, etc)? Do you think she would be having the same issue with a shanked bit?
These are questions I've been having about what's going on. I know she's switching to Nefertiti tonight.
BabyFlo is so much fun to watch too. I hate that she keeps having issues with that third. Her first barrel keeps getting better & better.
I am nowhere near as accomplished as Andy or have his eye, so take this with a grain of salt, but I have been thinking all week on how he explained it that Fallon doesn't have much of a handle to work with.
Fallon has mentioned over and over that BabyFlo is her prodigy, that within one year of breaking her she finished 16th in the world, now a year later she is at the NFR. She moved BabyFlo's training along at warp speed, and I see potential for holes in her fundamentals. Fallon may be holding her with all her might, picking her up, using leg, but BabyFlo just isn't as soft and responsive as others running in the T&M. |
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 That's White "Man" to You
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| Thank you for this thread. It is always enjoyable to see people do things they are good at, whether it be riding or writting. However, it takes time and practice to be good at anything. Learn from mistakes and improve whenever given the opportunity. |
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| casualdust07 - 2013-12-09 1:33 PM
I love the camera angles… I've been able to visualize where their horses are in the turns and where mine need to be! its been cool
I am just the opposite, I don't like the low camera angle at all- doesn't give you the overall perspective of the turn. |
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Location: Deep South | WrapSnap - 2013-12-09 1:35 PM
hlynn - 2013-12-09 1:30 PM
I've seen still frames of Fallon's runs where she's knocked the third. Last night, she was holding her off with all of her might, & Flo still dropped that shoulder.
Do you think it's a bad habit she's picked up? Or more of a rider not doing EVERYTHING they can to keep her up (driving up, using two hands, using more leg, etc)? Do you think she would be having the same issue with a shanked bit?
These are questions I've been having about what's going on. I know she's switching to Nefertiti tonight.
BabyFlo is so much fun to watch too. I hate that she keeps having issues with that third. Her first barrel keeps getting better & better.
I think BabyFlo is a very flat turner. The T&M is brutal on a horse with that style. I think that all of the inside leg and rein in the world isn't going to hold that mare off. Two hands and just try and make her smack into the back fence to free her up for a run. Sure, it won't get you a check, but it might tune her a bit for the next round. I'll be interested to see how Nefertiti handles that set up.
Well said on your original post and this respone, I really enjoy reading and learning from your insight. |
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Location: Kentucky | MS2011 - 2013-12-09 2:21 PM
Very well written.
We had Lisa on our fantasy team last year and it seemed like Louie got better and better as the week went on. I think they'll get in there for some more round money. I love watching how correctly and quietly Lisa rides.
Louie is one of my favorites to watch. He just looks like a dude that knows what he's doing. I really hope Lisa can lock down the average. |
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Shelter Dog Lover
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| Murphy - 2013-12-09 1:48 PM MS2011 - 2013-12-09 2:21 PM Very well written.
We had Lisa on our fantasy team last year and it seemed like Louie got better and better as the week went on. I think they'll get in there for some more round money. I love watching how correctly and quietly Lisa rides.
Louie is one of my favorites to watch. He just looks like a dude that knows what he's doing. I really hope Lisa can lock down the average.
Louie is one of my favorites too. He makes it look so easy- same trip every run. He is one cool dude. |
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Location: LouLouVille, OK | geronabean - 2013-12-09 1:27 PM Oh none of those girls can ride... if they want me to critique their run videos from each night have them email me. I am sure I can get that Bo horse fixed before tonight!
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You get what you give
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Location: Texas | rodeomom3 - 2013-12-09 1:44 PM
casualdust07 - 2013-12-09 1:33 PM
I love the camera angles… I've been able to visualize where their horses are in the turns and where mine need to be! its been cool
I am just the opposite, I don't like the low camera angle at all- doesn't give you the overall perspective of the turn.
I like the aerial one better but am working with the low angle :/ |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | I keep wanting to holler at Fallon to keep her butt in the middle, but she didn't get there riding that way, so... I've been wanting to ask, what kind of reins is Shada riding with?. |
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Location: North Dakota | WrapSnap - 2013-12-09 1:35 PM hlynn - 2013-12-09 1:30 PM I've seen still frames of Fallon's runs where she's knocked the third. Last night, she was holding her off with all of her might, & Flo still dropped that shoulder. Do you think it's a bad habit she's picked up? Or more of a rider not doing EVERYTHING they can to keep her up (driving up, using two hands, using more leg, etc)? Do you think she would be having the same issue with a shanked bit? These are questions I've been having about what's going on. I know she's switching to Nefertiti tonight. BabyFlo is so much fun to watch too. I hate that she keeps having issues with that third. Her first barrel keeps getting better & better. I think BabyFlo is a very flat turner. The T&M is brutal on a horse with that style. I think that all of the inside leg and rein in the world isn't going to hold that mare off. Two hands and just try and make her smack into the back fence to free her up for a run. Sure, it won't get you a check, but it might tune her a bit for the next round. I'll be interested to see how Nefertiti handles that set up.
I agree. She needs to concentrate on the back of the roping chutes and to ride ride and ride and not give in.
I do love the way she comes into her first! It makes my heart skip a beat every night...lol. She reminds me so much of the mare I run. |
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 Am I really the Weirdo?
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Location: Kansas | Stingray is really hunting the barrels this week. Sherry is riding her butt off to stay clean. I don't know if anyone else noticed, but she hasn't been having to check Stingray heading to the first barrel.....that little mare is DIALED IN on the 1st barrel.
Christy & Movin are starting to find their groove I think. She was smart to start off somewhat conservatively and make a solid run the first night rather than swinging for the fences in round 1 and risking a confidence-wrecking run. Same type of thing with Shada and her horse....their first couple runs were not so good but the last couple nights they've located the 1st barrel and gotten on track.
Babyflo and Worm are getting settier and settier. Those girls are going to have to their work cut out for them staying clean but if they can get past the barrels they are probably going to win quite a bit of money because both horses are really firing.
I agree with you Andy about Sydni & her horse change. Not sure why but she & Clancy aren't really nailing the 1st barrel which is causing problems the rest of the way. If I were her and thought I could safely run Twisted Sister again, I'd be back on the mare at least a night or two. However, having ridden a horse with a serious gate issue, I won't second guess her decision too much. No one knows the horse better than the rider so I'm sure she has good reasons to be staying on Clancy and they'll get the 1st figured out soon.
I thought Brittany did a great job riding Tommy the 1st night, just some bad luck with trying to set the barrel up the next night. Can't say as I blame her for getting on Teddy though. They looked really good last night. She seems to be quite the jockey.
Hopefully Jean can get in the money....Zan looks like a neat horse - just super super solid - and she is riding him very well. It would make me very nervous to go to the NFR with only one horse so my fingers are crossed that nothing happens to him during the week. |
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Location: At the race track with Ah Dee Ohs | This is very well written! Thank you for this. I'm not going to tell any of them how to ride.....I would fall off any of them suckers! Kudos to each and every one of those girls that are there. It's because of their ability and their horses that got them there! Good luck to each and everyone of them. |
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 Miss Laundry Misshap
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| I agree with what you said about Fallon. I think she needs to two hand her into 3rd. Her being one handed isn't enough. Baby Flo is not listening to her. I think having run there over and over, she's just anticipating too much.
I feel like Louie needs something between first and second. He just doesn't seem like he's firing there. He comes off of 3rd like a rocket, I'd like to see some more power there coming off of first. He's solid, don't get me wrong, just wondering if it's the repeats of the pen or what that he's not firing.
Would like to see Twisted Sister again.
Glad Brittany is doing better.
Want a whole stable full of Stingrays and Bos and Louies and Worms and Slicks! Ok, I doubt I'd turn any of them down....but those are my favs!
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