|
|
![](<a href="http://s1191.photobucket.com/albums/z470/alicat0909/?action=view¤t=yellaandcalf.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1191.photobu) Heeler Hater
Posts: 3014
 
Location: Texas | Its true....my boyfriend moved down from colorado and brought his heeler pup with him
He's cute as button and so sweet. Dumber than a boc of rocks though. Seriously I've never met such a stupid dog. How do you train these things? Even just potty training makes me want to rip my hair out. I don't want to leave him out because its too cold but I don't what else to do. Weve tried kenneling, mopping it up with a paper towel making him smell it then taking him and the towel outside. Spanking.....nothing works. What do I do?!?! |
|
| |
|
 Expert
Posts: 1432
 
Location: Never in one place long | Very weird! Both my heelers potty trained amazingly fast.... some advice about potty training... I have potty trained LOTS of dogs becauase I foster many and have 4 of my own...
The First few weeks/months are crucial!
Watch the pup every second! I seriously keep mind on a leash on my arm for the first 2 weeks, that way they can't sneak off without me knowing it.
Take them outside VERY often, give him/her a treat every time they go potty outside!
If they try to go inside, catch them in the act an INTERRUPT them, they don't like to be interupted say NOOO really firm, loud but not screaming at them and say OUTSIDE IMMEDIETLY try to get them to stop pottying and go outside. the interruption should be enough to drive them crazy.
If the dog even LOOKS at the door or starts walking around like it wants to go tothe bathroom put it OUT!
I tie mine with a leash to my bedpost on a short leash when I sleep and put the dog bed/blankets around it, dogs will not likely potty in their sleeping area so they learn to never potty inside and you know theyre not sneaking of to do it.
Hoep this helps! Just like horses... make the right thing easy and the wrong thing hard... |
|
| |
|
Heeler Hater
Posts: 3014
Location: Texas | Thank you! Ill try that! I've never had such an issue before with any of my other dogs. Knew I was doing something wrong lol |
|
| |
|
 Expert
Posts: 3782
Location: Gainesville, TX | A crate works great for this too. They don't like to go in there plus you have them conveniently crate trained if you need to take them somewhere. |
|
| |
|
  Extreme Veteran
Posts: 459
Location: La Vernia, TX | Crate training is a blessing- if you ever need to board your dog, travel with it confined (vehicle or plane!) or leave it with friends, it is invaluable.
What the others said on here is so right! You just gotta watch them. The crate helps give you a little freedom, but you still have to be vigilant. Food and water schedules are very helpful. What goes in has to come out, and it usually happens in rapid sequence.
When they wake up, they need to pee. After they eat, they need to poop. After a (even brief) vigorous bout of playing, the dog will go.
People often want to punish the dog for going inside, I don't think this works well with a puppy. It's a lot like punishing a baby for ****ting in a diaper. They have to go, there is no concept of right or wrong. Remember, a few weeks ago, mom was licking his butt to make him go, right there where he slept. Give him a little time to grow up and the urge to go to the bathroom in one spot will kick in.
Here's the kicker, and the HARDEST part to follow through on: go outside with the dog and praise him when he goes. Give it a name. Do not play with him until he does go. Result: a dog that goes on command (very helpful if you travel with one).
Lastly, if he's very young (3 months or younger) you'll have to get up at night to let him out. Restricting water access at night will limit the number of trips you have to make.
Hope this helps. I love, love love my dogs...not a big puppy fan because of all this work!  |
|
| |
|
 The Color Specialist
Posts: 7530
Location: Washington. (The DRY side.) | How old is he? |
|
| |
|
Holy Fruit Loops!
Posts: 1708
Location: Colorado | Spanking any dog to housebreak does NOT work. Spanking a heeler will only make it worse. I am sure the dog knows you don't like him. That is never a good thing with a heeler.
99% of housebreaking issues are the human NOT the dog. Puppies have little control and need to be watched and taken out Often. Make going out and him actually going a Great thing. Happy voice, puppy party.
karen |
|
| |
|
Industrial Srength Barrel Racer
Posts: 7264
| Phoenix98 - 2013-12-12 3:24 PM Crate training is a blessing- if you ever need to board your dog, travel with it confined (vehicle or plane! ) or leave it with friends, it is invaluable. What the others said on here is so right! You just gotta watch them. The crate helps give you a little freedom, but you still have to be vigilant. Food and water schedules are very helpful. What goes in has to come out, and it usually happens in rapid sequence. When they wake up, they need to pee. After they eat, they need to poop. After a (even brief ) vigorous bout of playing, the dog will go. People often want to punish the dog for going inside, I don't think this works well with a puppy. It's a lot like punishing a baby for ****ting in a diaper. They have to go, there is no concept of right or wrong. Remember, a few weeks ago, mom was licking his butt to make him go, right there where he slept. Give him a little time to grow up and the urge to go to the bathroom in one spot will kick in. Here's the kicker, and the HARDEST part to follow through on: go outside with the dog and praise him when he goes. Give it a name. Do not play with him until he does go. Result: a dog that goes on command (very helpful if you travel with one ). Lastly, if he's very young (3 months or younger ) you'll have to get up at night to let him out. Restricting water access at night will limit the number of trips you have to make. Hope this helps. I love, love love my dogs...not a big puppy fan because of all this work!
Oh yeah on the praising - we used to CHEER and say, "Good girl, Daisy went potty outside!" - now, my 3-yr old Heeler would blow up before she went in the house! LOL |
|
| |
|
I Will Not Keep Silent
Posts: 1922
Location: GA | I have never owned a dumb heeler, mine seem to be born potty trained. I agree crating is a blessing. Spanking is a no no. If they still potty in the crate take all bedding out and most dogs will not potty on a bare crate floor because they don't want direct contact. |
|
| |
|
Expert
Posts: 1488
| *robin* - 2013-12-13 7:07 AM
I have never owned a dumb heeler, mine seem to be born potty trained. I agree crating is a blessing. Spanking is a no no. If they still potty in the crate take all bedding out and most dogs will not potty on a bare crate floor because they don't want direct contact.
Good advice right here.
You have to be smarter than the animal. |
|
| |
|
 Just a Yankee
Posts: 1237
Location: Some where I haven't left yet | Oh, My neighbor has a Dumb and otherwise stupid heeler. I HATE that dog. I used to really like all heelers until they aquired this one. The biggest thing with heelers that most people forget is they are a busy breed and need full time job or they become like my neighbor's dog HORRIBLE!!!! Crate's are fabulous, and don't forget lots of praise. Use scheduled eating/drinking time, to then "go outside", it will help. I'm sorry you are having to deal with a heeler, I really am. |
|
| |
|
Expert
Posts: 1488
| Lucylouwon - 2013-12-13 7:52 AM
Oh, My neighbor has a Dumb and otherwise stupid heeler. Â
Define Irony
|
|
| |
|
Heeler Hater
Posts: 3014
Location: Texas | Lucylouwon - 2013-12-13 7:52 AM
Oh, My neighbor has a Dumb and otherwise stupid heeler. I HATE that dog. I used to really like all heelers until they aquired this one.  The biggest thing with heelers that most people forget is they are a busy breed and need full time job or they become like my neighbor's dog HORRIBLE!!!!  Crate's are fabulous, and don't forget lots of praise.   Use scheduled eating/drinking time, to then "go outside", it will help. I'm sorry you are having to deal with a heeler, I really am.Â
I'm glad I'm not the only one who hates this breed. I've tried owning two heelers before this pup both a red and a blue...both dumber than a box of rocks. Same as this pup. Just flat out stupid. I have owned and trained several collies and kelpies. I guess this just isn't my breed.
And to the person who said you have to be smarter than the dog. Thanks appreciate being called stupid. Smdh.....
He is 3 months now. He will stay in the crate but the second he even thinks he heard something the yapping starts. I've let him out. Nope nothing, comes inside and ****es. Back outhe goes or in the crate if its raining.and he still yaps. So I taken to putting him and the kennel in the laundry room and shutting the door. he jumps on the futniture chews on the screen door and tears up the screen, chews on chargers. I discipline him and give him what he can chew on. (The day he eats my boots is the day he disappears....kidding lol) I can't stand it anymore. SO is a truck driver so I'm responsible for this little idiot. I want to like the pup I do...honestly. but he makes it so **** hard.
Sorry for any typos on my phone. |
|
| |
|
 I Prefer to Live in Fantasy Land
Posts: 64864
Location: In the Hills of Texas | I've never been around a stupid heeler...I didn't know they existed...I'll leave it at that. |
|
| |
|
 Expert
Posts: 1218
Location: Great NW | Nevertooold - 2013-12-13 3:19 PM I've never been around a stupid heeler...I didn't know they existed...I'll leave it at that.
Ditto~ I love them they can be tough and they definately know when someone does not like them. |
|
| |
|
Heeler Hater
Posts: 3014
Location: Texas | Nevertooold - 2013-12-13 5:19 PM
I've never been around a stupid heeler...I didn't know they existed...I'll leave it at that.
Then youve obviously never been around this dog. |
|
| |
|
Just a Yankee
Posts: 1237
Location: Some where I haven't left yet | DD2012 - 2013-12-13 6:12 AM Lucylouwon - 2013-12-13 7:52 AM Oh, My neighbor has a Dumb and otherwise stupid heeler. Define Irony
You jumping off a bridge..... |
|
| |
|
Holy Fruit Loops!
Posts: 1708
Location: Colorado | Alicat0909 - 2013-12-13 4:47 PM Lucylouwon - 2013-12-13 7:52 AM Oh, My neighbor has a Dumb and otherwise stupid heeler. I HATE that dog. I used to really like all heelers until they aquired this one. The biggest thing with heelers that most people forget is they are a busy breed and need full time job or they become like my neighbor's dog HORRIBLE!!!! Crate's are fabulous, and don't forget lots of praise. Use scheduled eating/drinking time, to then "go outside", it will help. I'm sorry you are having to deal with a heeler, I really am. I'm glad I'm not the only one who hates this breed. I've tried owning two heelers before this pup both a red and a blue...both dumber than a box of rocks. Same as this pup. Just flat out stupid. I have owned and trained several collies and kelpies. I guess this just isn't my breed. And to the person who said you have to be smarter than the dog. Thanks appreciate being called stupid. Smdh..... He is 3 months now. He will stay in the crate but the second he even thinks he heard something the yapping starts. I've let him out. Nope nothing, comes inside and ****es. Back outhe goes or in the crate if its raining.and he still yaps. So I taken to putting him and the kennel in the laundry room and shutting the door. he jumps on the futniture chews on the screen door and tears up the screen, chews on chargers. I discipline him and give him what he can chew on. (The day he eats my boots is the day he disappears....kidding lol ) I can't stand it anymore. SO is a truck driver so I'm responsible for this little idiot. I want to like the pup I do...honestly. but he makes it so **** hard. Sorry for any typos on my phone.
Find the dog a new home. Not fair to the pup.
karen |
|
| |
|
 Extreme Veteran
Posts: 411
Location: Smack in the middle of WA! | Alicat0909 - 2013-12-13 2:47 PM
Lucylouwon - 2013-12-13 7:52 AM
Oh, My neighbor has a Dumb and otherwise stupid heeler. I HATE that dog. I used to really like all heelers until they aquired this one.  The biggest thing with heelers that most people forget is they are a busy breed and need full time job or they become like my neighbor's dog HORRIBLE!!!!  Crate's are fabulous, and don't forget lots of praise.   Use scheduled eating/drinking time, to then "go outside", it will help. I'm sorry you are having to deal with a heeler, I really am.Â
I'm glad I'm not the only one who hates this breed. I've tried owning two heelers before this pup both a red and a blue...both dumber than a box of rocks. Same as this pup. Just flat out stupid. I have owned and trained several collies and kelpies. I guess this just isn't my breed.
And to the person who said you have to be smarter than the dog. Thanks appreciate being called stupid. Smdh.....
He is 3 months now. He will stay in the crate but the second he even thinks he heard something the yapping starts. I've let him out. Nope nothing, comes inside and ****es. Back outhe goes or in the crate if its raining.and he still yaps. So I taken to putting him and the kennel in the laundry room and shutting the door. he jumps on the futniture chews on the screen door and tears up the screen, chews on chargers. I discipline him and give him what he can chew on. (The day he eats my boots is the day he disappears....kidding lol ) I can't stand it anymore. SO is a truck driver so I'm responsible for this little idiot. I want to like the pup I do...honestly. but he makes it so **** hard.
Sorry for any typos on my phone.
So I'm a little confused. Does he only stay in the crate? Or does he have some play time? Like someone else said heelers are a busy breed and are working dogs! They need active time! It truly doesn't have to be herding. We have two heelers and no cattle to work. We just love the breed. Knowing that he needs some time to get worn out so he won't be so destructive. As for the potty training all dogs are different and it takes time. My puppies don't come in until they have went to the bathroom. And I stay out with them, however long that may be, to make sure they went and praise them! Also I'm a huge fan of crate training but you can't let them out when they yap. They just learn that by yapping they get out! My crates are also in my bedroom(only 2!). I don't feel their about isolating a dog but more about giving them a secure place to sleep. My dogs crate up on their own and don't make a peep! Don't get me wrong the first few nights are hell but if dealt with correctly that's all it takes! I would seriously talk to your boyfriend about him finding the dog another home if he is never with it and you don't like it. They are great dogs when raised by those that love them! I've never had a more loyal dog in my life!!
Edited by hank520 2013-12-13 8:12 PM
|
|
| |
|
Just a Yankee
Posts: 1237
Location: Some where I haven't left yet | Alicat0909 - 2013-12-13 2:47 PM Lucylouwon - 2013-12-13 7:52 AM Oh, My neighbor has a Dumb and otherwise stupid heeler. I HATE that dog. I used to really like all heelers until they aquired this one. The biggest thing with heelers that most people forget is they are a busy breed and need full time job or they become like my neighbor's dog HORRIBLE!!!! Crate's are fabulous, and don't forget lots of praise. Use scheduled eating/drinking time, to then "go outside", it will help. I'm sorry you are having to deal with a heeler, I really am. I'm glad I'm not the only one who hates this breed. I've tried owning two heelers before this pup both a red and a blue...both dumber than a box of rocks. Same as this pup. Just flat out stupid. I have owned and trained several collies and kelpies. I guess this just isn't my breed. And to the person who said you have to be smarter than the dog. Thanks appreciate being called stupid. Smdh..... He is 3 months now. He will stay in the crate but the second he even thinks he heard something the yapping starts. I've let him out. Nope nothing, comes inside and ****es. Back outhe goes or in the crate if its raining.and he still yaps. So I taken to putting him and the kennel in the laundry room and shutting the door. he jumps on the futniture chews on the screen door and tears up the screen, chews on chargers. I discipline him and give him what he can chew on. (The day he eats my boots is the day he disappears....kidding lol ) I can't stand it anymore. SO is a truck driver so I'm responsible for this little idiot. I want to like the pup I do...honestly. but he makes it so **** hard. Sorry for any typos on my phone.
No Problem. I'm just sorry you are having to deal with the dog. I'm not a heeler fan, they need a full time job with super strict boundries and take forever to mature. I just don't appreciate a dog that barks 24/7/365 at nothing. And has cost me a pile of $$ in vet bills - just to try to keep the peace with my neighbor. While the dog destroys their yard and house, and lets not forget the fact that he's come across my property and charged the fence. I HATE that worthless dog. |
|
| |
Folks on-line