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| So, I've had this horse for many years and this hoof has always been long toe low heel, I have gone through about 8 farriers and none of them fix it or can get it at the correct angles. I have him done every 6-7 weeks. To me his hoof is at the wrong angle, bullnosed wall, underrun heels, shoes look way too small. This picture was taken right at 6 weeks. He's also sore on it. What should I do? I'm looking for yet another farrier. I'm pulling my hair out over here, I feel like I can't do much besides pray I find a good farrier and do his feet every 6 weeks. 
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Elite Veteran
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| I can take more pictures tonight if need different angles. |
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 Miss Laundry Misshap
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| I'd get him done every 4 or 5 weeks to keep him from getting so long. Most of the issues you listed I'd say are correct. IDK what to tell you if you've gone through that many farriers.
Move somewhere else?? |
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Veteran
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| My horse was going through the EXACT same thing. His angles are way off. Pull shoes and have him trimmed back every 4 weeks if you can. When the toe gets long it pulls everything forward. I trim my own horse now and he is getting better. Its not something that can be a quick fix. The sole and toe both have to come back. Good Luck. Best thing is no shoes for now. |
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Location: Washington | Your horse has a lot of heel, it is just very under run. Everything needs to be brough way back. |
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  Sweet Tea
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Location: Home of the World Famous "Silver Bullet" | reset every 4 weeks. cut his toe off and try a wedge shoe, set it full. |
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 Hummer's Hero
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Location: Smack Dab in the Middle | BarrelsRmyLife - 2013-12-13 2:59 PM
Your horse has a lot of heel, it is just very under run. Everything needs to be brough way back.
This... My horse had to spend some time in Natural Balance shoes for a quite while, toes squared off, every 5 weeks. it took lots of time, but it worked. Mine also had really shelly walls in his heel area from an old scar on his coronet band. Good feed and a hoof supplement helped that. |
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| I keep track of what the angles should be on all my horses, front and back. I make the farrier measure. I also make them measure the toes and the heels to be sure everything is the way it should be for that horse and in balance. Perhaps if you tell your farrier what angles you want the horse to be, it might improve. |
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 Northern Chocolate Queen
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Location: ND | I would either pull the shoes, keep him barefoot & trim him myself, or find a really good natural balance farrier. It doesn't surprise me at all that he's lame if that's how the farrier is setting him up. He's overall way to long, with a very underrun heel, long toe & looks like the shoe's are way to small..... |
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 "Drank the Kool Aid"
Posts: 5496
Location: Iowa, LA | I'd pull the shoes and trim every 4 weeks with maybe some touch up rasping in between trims. I'm on my phone or I'd show you how much going barefoot changed my horses' feet. My mare's feet used to look like that. Once I went barefoot and realized what feet are supposed to look like, I realized how sickly most feet look. You can always boot your horse to get them through the transition. |
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Location: Chehalis, Washington | My mare has long toe and no heel.. I have been told by several farriers that she should never have shoes on as it would make her worse. So I have a natural barefoot trimmer out and have her done every 4-6 weeks.. I dont go by an acutal week.. I look at her growth and say ok its time. I notice she starts getting trippy when she is needing a trim as well.
Barefoot trimmer will be your best friend. Shoes dont allow the hoof to expand. Your horse will be sore for a while during transition. But find a good barefoot trimmer.. not one that does a basic trim. |
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Location: Mountains of VA | I am not convinced that barefoot is the fix for this horse. Personally, I would rather leave all mine barefoot and my farrier would too. However, there are times when a shoe is needed.
I have one now that we tried our best to keep barefoot. She grows a hoof forward so she has a long toe with a low underslung heel. Trimming her every 4 weeks did not help contain that forward, long toe growth and keep the proper hoof angle. I am SO HAPPY now that she is in shoes. She travels so much better. Her feet maintain the proper angle, keeps her hoof/toe from shooting forward and we can keep her break over back. Before she was always stumbling and hitting her fronts with her hinds.
Through the years I have had several others that really benefitted from wearing shoes. Maybe getting a good lameness vet involved to work with your farrier would be a solution. I do know that a lot of farriers have big egos and cringe at the thought of having to confer with a vet but I think you and your horse need some help getting his feet straightened out. |
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 Crazy Chicken Chick
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| It's NOT the shoe that's the problem. It's the trim UNDER the shoe. Now that said, foot issues can be better corrected when the horse is barefoot, especially if someone knowledgeable can rasp toe and heel for you weekly. |
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 The Comeback Kid
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Location: lost in missouri | He needs to go barefoot for a few weeks to see how he would naturally wear his hoof down due to his confirmation needs then find a farrier who wont go jacking him all up with what they think he needs vs what his natural way says he needs. I would give that a shot, let him show you what he needs and see if that helps your situation. |
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Crazy Chicken Chick
Posts: 36132
| Contact Farrierlady on here. She is an excellent farrier and the best barefoot farrier I know. It will take time to fix those feet, but can be done. The live sole will tell you where the hoof needs to be trimmed to. |
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"Drank the Kool Aid"
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Location: Iowa, LA | luvinrunnin - 2013-12-14 4:55 PM It's NOT the shoe that's the problem. It's the trim UNDER the shoe. Now that said, foot issues can be better corrected when the horse is barefoot, especially if someone knowledgeable can rasp toe and heel for you weekly.
This is what I have done for Jug and it's been the one thing that helped pull his toe/heel back the most. I even bought a hoof jack to make it easier on me. The trimmer showed me how to maintain him in between trims and you can really see the difference in the past 5 months. |
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