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yellowhorse1
Reg. Oct 2006
Posted 2013-12-15 5:52 AM
Subject: Does this bother anyone else......




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First of all let me preface my comment by saying congratulations to Sherry and Stingray. She seems like a humble person and good ambassador for the sport of barrel racing. She does a great job.
Now for what bothers me, lol. And this may be a "man" thing or old school, not sure. But it appeared that Sherry was pretty conservative in her riding after about the fourth round, and yes she did win another first place check and placed in every round, I get all that. But I guess I've always liked the approach of the Ty Murrays, Billy Etbauer, Cody Ohl and even Trevor I believe. They go hard for first every time and let the chips fall where they may. I've even heard Ty and Billy talk about they would rather get bucked of than safety up! And it's cost all of these guys some buckles before but they also won alot and you knew they left every ounce out on the dirt.
I understand what Sherry did is smart strategy and all that, and she is wearing another gold buckle tonight. But basically "playing it safe" bugs me lol
Wanted to add I'm not just picking on Sherry, I remember Charymane doing this her last championship and it bugged me then also. Maybe the barrel racers are just smarter than the guys? Lol still bugs me tho.
Flame at your convience......
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Komet
Reg. May 2011
Posted 2013-12-15 5:57 AM
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Hey... Once you have it won, why screw with it? Take a knee and let the clock run out...
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yellowhorse1
Reg. Oct 2006
Posted 2013-12-15 6:01 AM
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Komet - 2013-12-15 5:57 AM

Hey... Once you have it won, why screw with it? Take a knee and let the clock run out...

Ya, I do understand that mindset. I guess I just like the all or go down in flames approach. And all those guys I listed have sure put on some of the most exciting performances in NFR history!
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Komet
Reg. May 2011
Posted 2013-12-15 6:10 AM
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yellowhorse1 - 2013-12-15 6:01 AM

Komet - 2013-12-15 5:57 AM

Hey... Once you have it won, why screw with it? Take a knee and let the clock run out...

Ya, I do understand that mindset. I guess I just like the all or go down in flames approach. And all those guys I listed have sure put on some of the most exciting performances in NFR history!

Barrel racing is an expensive sport... Horses cost a ton to get and keep healthy.... It's too much hard work to risk losing everything just to give someone else a sporting chance after you have it won.
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runningk
Reg. Jan 2005
Posted 2013-12-15 6:14 AM
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The only round I felt she may have been conservative was the 10th. And after so many downed barrels, I don't blame her. 
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yellowhorse1
Reg. Oct 2006
Posted 2013-12-15 6:16 AM
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Komet - 2013-12-15 6:10 AM

yellowhorse1 - 2013-12-15 6:01 AM

Komet - 2013-12-15 5:57 AM

Hey... Once you have it won, why screw with it? Take a knee and let the clock run out...

Ya, I do understand that mindset. I guess I just like the all or go down in flames approach. And all those guys I listed have sure put on some of the most exciting performances in NFR history!

Barrel racing is an expensive sport... Horses cost a ton to get and keep healthy.... It's too much hard work to risk losing everything just to give someone else a sporting chance after you have it won.

It's not that I really see it as giving the other competitors a chance. It's more of a deal of "not going for 1st everytime" type of thing, it just seems "wrong" to me. I guess is the nice word to use.
Again, no disrespect to Sherry, would of soon saw her win it as anybody. Although I was really impressed by Taylor and her horse, Bo.

Edited by yellowhorse1 2013-12-15 6:18 AM
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Komet
Reg. May 2011
Posted 2013-12-15 6:21 AM
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yellowhorse1 - 2013-12-15 6:16 AM

Komet - 2013-12-15 6:10 AM

yellowhorse1 - 2013-12-15 6:01 AM

Komet - 2013-12-15 5:57 AM

Hey... Once you have it won, why screw with it? Take a knee and let the clock run out...

Ya, I do understand that mindset. I guess I just like the all or go down in flames approach. And all those guys I listed have sure put on some of the most exciting performances in NFR history!

Barrel racing is an expensive sport... Horses cost a ton to get and keep healthy.... It's too much hard work to risk losing everything just to give someone else a sporting chance after you have it won.

It's not that I really see it as giving the other competitors a chance. It's more of a deal of "not going for 1st everytime" type of thing, it just seems "wrong" to me. I guess is the nice word to use.
Again, no disrespect to Sherry, would of soon saw her win it as anybody. Although I was really impressed by Taylor and her horse, Bo.

That's one of the perks of being IN first place. You just have to do enough to stay there. Let others work to take it away.
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yellowhorse1
Reg. Oct 2006
Posted 2013-12-15 6:23 AM
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runningk - 2013-12-15 6:14 AM

The only round I felt she may have been conservative was the 10th. And after so many downed barrels, I don't blame her. 

That I would disagree with. After the fifth round I really didn't think she would draw another first place check and the one she did draw was one of the slower first place times of the week If I remember right.
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runs4fun
Reg. Oct 2006
Posted 2013-12-15 6:24 AM
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I think she did exactly what she should of done.  I think she did the smart thing.  Why risk losing the World Championship and all that average money because of how others "think" you should ride?  She has won another World Championship and from a records-book standpoint and from a business standpoint she did what, in the long-run, was the best thing.  To go in and ride with hair-on-fire risking the big picture to win a go-round wouldn't make a lot of sense....she didn't need to do that....cool, calm and collected worked out much better.  JMO 

Edited to add:  she did go for "first" place, #1 in the World, it don't get much more FIRST PLACE than that!  And I thought everyone of her runs was exciting, just the anticipation of if she was going to be able to leave them all standing when so many were hitting barrels was very exciting and she showed that she's a smart/savvy  woman...why would she try to be like the men? 


Edited by runs4fun 2013-12-15 6:29 AM
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kmcsunshine
Reg. May 2007
Posted 2013-12-15 6:26 AM
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NO.  It doesn't not bother me.  I remember what happened to Charymane the year before she won the last championship.  Downed barrels cost her.  The next year she came in with a plan and it worked.  I call it smart. 
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yellowhorse1
Reg. Oct 2006
Posted 2013-12-15 6:32 AM
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runs4fun - 2013-12-15 6:24 AM

I think she did exactly what she should of done.  I think she did the smart thing.  Why risk losing the World Championship and all that average money because of how others "think" you should ride?  She has won another World Championship and from a records-book standpoint and from a business standpoint she did what, in the long-run, was the best thing.  To go in and ride with hair-on-fire risking the big picture to win a go-round wouldn't make a lot of sense....she didn't need to do that....cool, calm and collected worked out much better.  JMO 

I don't disagree that it worked out and was the safe thing to do. Just not my cup of tea I guess. Ty Murray had several all arounds sewed up before the end several times and he never took his foot off the pedal....and as I said he and the others I talked about have been vocal about going for first place every round. I just thinks it adds a element to their stature in the history of the sport. And it's what being a Cowboy is all about (or cowgirl) IMO.
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yellowhorse1
Reg. Oct 2006
Posted 2013-12-15 6:34 AM
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runs4fun - 2013-12-15 6:24 AM

I think she did exactly what she should of done.  I think she did the smart thing.  Why risk losing the World Championship and all that average money because of how others "think" you should ride?  She has won another World Championship and from a records-book standpoint and from a business standpoint she did what, in the long-run, was the best thing.  To go in and ride with hair-on-fire risking the big picture to win a go-round wouldn't make a lot of sense....she didn't need to do that....cool, calm and collected worked out much better.  JMO 

Edited to add:  she did go for "first" place, #1 in the World, it don't get much more FIRST PLACE than that!  And I thought everyone of her runs was exciting, just the anticipation of if she was going to be able to leave them all standing when so many were hitting barrels was very exciting and she showed that she's a smart/savvy  woman...why would she try to be like the men? 

Lol maybe it is a "man" thing?
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bender
Reg. Aug 2006
Posted 2013-12-15 6:35 AM
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I will have to go back and watch the go arounds again but I did not think Sherry ran safe . I thought Stingray looked a little "ring smart " and was REALLY hunting those barrels . I thought Sherry had to ride her hard to keep the forward motion and keep her off of those barrels . Anyway you look at it . Congrats to Sherry and Stingray . They make it look easy !

 
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rockinj
Reg. Nov 2007
Posted 2013-12-15 6:40 AM
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runningk - 2013-12-15 10:14 PM

The only round I felt she may have been conservative was the 10th. And after so many downed barrels, I don't blame her. 

I agree with this. It was obvious she safetied up in the last round and the clock reflects this. I do not see placing in every other round and setting an arena record for fastest over 10 rounds as playing it's safe at all. She was gunning it every round bar the last and who could hold that against her with the amount of knocked barrels in the last? Not me! !!!!
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kasaj2000
Reg. May 2005
Posted 2013-12-15 6:43 AM
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The harder a horse runs the higher chance of an injury.  If she already had the 'win', why risk her horse by pushing harder than she has to? 

I would call it smart.
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runs4fun
Reg. Oct 2006
Posted 2013-12-15 7:37 AM
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yellowhorse1 - 2013-12-15 7:32 AM
runs4fun - 2013-12-15 6:24 AM I think she did exactly what she should of done.  I think she did the smart thing.  Why risk losing the World Championship and all that average money because of how others "think" you should ride?  She has won another World Championship and from a records-book standpoint and from a business standpoint she did what, in the long-run, was the best thing.  To go in and ride with hair-on-fire risking the big picture to win a go-round wouldn't make a lot of sense....she didn't need to do that....cool, calm and collected worked out much better.  JMO 
I don't disagree that it worked out and was the safe thing to do. Just not my cup of tea I guess. Ty Murray had several all arounds sewed up before the end several times and he never took his foot off the pedal....and as I said he and the others I talked about have been vocal about going for first place every round. I just thinks it adds a element to their stature in the history of the sport. And it's what being a Cowboy is all about (or cowgirl) IMO.

What bothers me is that you insist on comparing Sherry to Ty Murray or anyone else.  Not trying to be rude but that truly does bother me.  Who are we, you or I, to question what Sherry does....she's #1 in the World, she is a class act all the way around.  I can't find anyway to fault her riding, her training or her game plan used to take another World Title.  I guess you and I will just have to agree to disagree on this one....LOL> 
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downngo
Reg. Nov 2005
Posted 2013-12-15 7:47 AM
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runningk - 2013-12-15 7:14 AM The only round I felt she may have been conservative was the 10th. And after so many downed barrels, I don't blame her. 
Exactly Running K.  Now In My Honest Professional Opinion..... With the exception of Round 10 where she let Stingray step out a little so not to chance catching the barrel.  The Only thing that Move could be described as was SMART & showed what a Professional she is that she can put her horse Exactly where she asks her to go instead of creaming barrels like so many of the others did.  Sherry ran aggressive every Go Round exactly how she said she was going to! That was obvious! Her combined times on All Go Rounds Set a Record Too so if you do not believe she was going for #1 in the World & the Average, I firmly have to disagree.   Sherry & Stingray "True World Champions" in the Barrel Racing Arena, as well as, Life's Arena. 

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Three 4 Luck
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2013-12-15 7:48 AM
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 IMO, she rode smart.    And how is placing in 10 rounds and setting a new average record "playing it safe"?  The only conservative run I saw was the 10th.  The others, she was having to work to keep the mare running far enough into the turns to leave them standing.  Stingray is a barrel hunting fool--I can't imagine getting 10 clean on that pattern on that kind of horse! (Which is one reason she's Sherry Cervi and I'm not ) 
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CJE
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2013-12-15 7:50 AM
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 LOL she safety up and never hit a barrel and got checks each round....at the NFR. I hope she makes a how to that video....I'm sure the other girls would be the 1st in line to purchase. I know I would.
Bottom line is she has an awesome horse and she is an awesome rider. 
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Just Plain Lucky
Reg. Jun 2008
Posted 2013-12-15 7:53 AM
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Hmmmmmm.....being intelligent and having a game plan to win it big oorrrrrrr being cocky and blowing it just to put on a show (and maybe win it big). 


OMG WHAT A HARD DECISION!



 
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