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Location: Kansas | Looking to put my herd on a new grain so would like some suggestions. My finished mare was on ultium then equistages, not really liking the equistages. The filly was on a mare/foal grain, and since I've pulled her off she has gotten a bit thin so I'll stick her back on a baby grain.
Was wondering about total equine? My best friend feeds it to her herd and likes it, I looked at the tag tonight and it was 15% protein but also 17% fiber. What are low starch/sugar grains available. I don't have access to TC without buying a pallet, just purina and nutrena...also the coop about 30 minutes west of me offers alfalfa pellets. They are on brome round bales and the filly is getting alfalfa flakes in her pen. I liked the ultium for my grey |
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The Resident Destroyer of Liberal Logic
Location: PNW | I LOVE the WellSolve L/S by Purina |
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Location: Central California | I started 3 on Nutrena Safe Choice Special Care horse pellets 60 days ago. When my husband brought his two home from Texas I put them on it as well. I am pleased with how everyone looks and they love it.
I read lots of lables before I switched and the Nutrena seamed to my to have most everything I was looking for with out all the sugars. |
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  A Lady with Fight
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Location: NC | Seminole. Tribute. Buckeye. ADM.
Are all really good feed companies compared to Nutrena/Purina. I've never fed the Ultium, but I know some people like it. I'm just not a fan of corn.
Nutrena came out with a new feed to compete with Triple Crown Senior. Same analysis. Idk about the starch content, but it SHOULD be around the same. (Same beet pulp/rice bran base concept). We have a feed store here that carries it, but you'd have to look into to it to find it. I don't think it's on the usual TSC/local feed store rotation. I forget what they called it. It was high fat, high fiber, low starch. It looked good on paper. |
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Location: Sunnyland Florida |
Seminole Wellness Perform Safe is AWESOME!!
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Location: Texas | I have my "easy keeper" on Well Solve L/S along with Enrich plus.
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A Lady with Fight
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Location: NC | Runaway - 2013-12-16 11:17 PM
Seminole Wellness Perform Safe is AWESOME!!
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Is that the stuff that smells minty? LOL. My friend put her horse on Seminole & we're babysitting him for a few weeks & she sent that feed with him. It looks AWESOME. The ingredients are legit and you can see what's in it. But that smell is definitely different! LOL |
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Location: Around here somewhere... | We use SafeChoice, as well. I used to feed it to my stallion who had laminitis but was a hard keeper, he did really well on it. We don't have any laminitic horses now, but the hard keepers do really well on the SafeChoice :) |
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Sorry I don't have any advice
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Location: Sunnyland Florida | hlynn - 2013-12-16 11:25 PM
Runaway - 2013-12-16 11:17 PM
Seminole Wellness Perform Safe is AWESOME!!
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Is that the stuff that smells minty? LOL. My friend put her horse on Seminole & we're babysitting him for a few weeks & she sent that feed with him. It looks AWESOME. The ingredients are legit and you can see what's in it. But that smell is definitely different! LOL
No, the Perform Wellness Perform Safe is not the minty one. I have fed that minty before though, it is pungent!! LOL |
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Location: Kansas | hlynn - 2013-12-16 10:09 PM Seminole. Tribute. Buckeye. ADM. Are all really good feed companies compared to Nutrena/Purina. I've never fed the Ultium, but I know some people like it. I'm just not a fan of corn. Nutrena came out with a new feed to compete with Triple Crown Senior. Same analysis. Idk about the starch content, but it SHOULD be around the same. (Same beet pulp/rice bran base concept). We have a feed store here that carries it, but you'd have to look into to it to find it. I don't think it's on the usual TSC/local feed store rotation. I forget what they called it. It was high fat, high fiber, low starch. It looked good on paper.
Where can I find these at? We have two purina/nutrena dealers near where I live
I'm not a fan of corn either, trust me LOL. My blue roan mare is currently in rope training and she is getting fed an alfalfa pellet mixed with corn, while she is fat and looking good...just not a big person on corn. |
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Location: NC | I like Legends Performance Pellet. |
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| I have a 21 yo mare diagnosed with insulin resistance 2 yrs ago and was told by the vet to put her on Wellsolve LS and we have to soak her hay for 1 hr before feeding to remove the sugar and starch. Other than that I don't know anybody that routinely feeds it to other types of horses. My vet did not recommend it for any of my others. |
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Location: Mi | I did a lot of research and switched over to Tribute Feeds about a year ago, I'm a believer and am very happy I made the switch....so happy we become a dealer. http://www.tributehorsefeeds.com/ is there main website, you can do a dealer search for your zip code. I'm not sure if there are any out your way or not. There is also a lot of good information on the website. If you have any questions, shoot me a msg I can try to help. |
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A Lady with Fight
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Location: NC | hoofs_in_motion - 2013-12-17 8:49 AM
hlynn - 2013-12-16 10:09 PM Seminole. Tribute. Buckeye. ADM. Are all really good feed companies compared to Nutrena/Purina. I've never fed the Ultium, but I know some people like it. I'm just not a fan of corn. Nutrena came out with a new feed to compete with Triple Crown Senior. Same analysis. Idk about the starch content, but it SHOULD be around the same. (Same beet pulp/rice bran base concept). We have a feed store here that carries it, but you'd have to look into to it to find it. I don't think it's on the usual TSC/local feed store rotation. I forget what they called it. It was high fat, high fiber, low starch. It looked good on paper.
 Where can I find these at? We have two purina/nutrena dealers near where I live
I'm not a fan of corn either, trust me LOL. My blue roan mare is currently in rope training and she is getting fed an alfalfa pellet mixed with corn, while she is fat and looking good...just not a big person on corn.
You'll have to search through the companies themselves to see of they carry near you. We have a feed store here that carries almost every feed brand out there, minus the strictly west coast based companies. I used to drive the 2 hours out there just for Buckeye before we switched to Triple Crown. It's a lot closer. Still driving 30 minutes to get there, but it's WAY worth it.
ADM has good choices & I think you can get their stuff ordered online. Not 100% though.
Nutrena isn't as bad as they used to be. You could probably find that feed they created to compete with TC if you look hard enough. Or they should be able to order it for you. I'll ask the feed store that posted it awhile back what it's called again. I wish everyone had the kind of feed/tack store this place is. They literally carry EVERYTHING and are still locally owned. I drive out of my way to support them since they're so awesome. |
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A Lady with Fight
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Location: NC | Runaway - 2013-12-17 7:50 AM
hlynn - 2013-12-16 11:25 PM
Runaway - 2013-12-16 11:17 PM
Seminole Wellness Perform Safe is AWESOME!!
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Is that the stuff that smells minty? LOL. My friend put her horse on Seminole & we're babysitting him for a few weeks & she sent that feed with him. It looks AWESOME. The ingredients are legit and you can see what's in it. But that smell is definitely different! LOL
No, the Perform Wellness Perform Safe is not the minty one. I have fed that minty before though, it is pungent!! LOL
It's still a good feed though. I love when I can read & know what each ingredient is, especially the ones listed first. But yeah. It's minty fresh. Lol. He seems to like it though & he's fat & sassy on it. With great breath! |
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| I'm feeding Purina Enrich Plus and alfalfa pellets.......my one horse looks better and feels better than he did on Ultium..... |
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Location: Willows, CA | You really need to look at the tags on many of the low starch feeds. Some, I won't mention names, but you can look at the store, list "byproducts" for the first 3-5 ingredients. You really can't tell what is in these products. Many others list alfalfa, and various grain hulls, as the top ingredients. If you are going to feed alfalfa as part of the diet, why pay to have it pressed into a feed? Just feed the amount of alfalfa you feel your horse needs. In other words, many of the low starch feeds are hay and hulls. Don't get me wrong, controlling starch to the level that a horse can properly process is a great thing. I am just not convinced that some of the least cost formulated feeds that are advertised as low starch make nutritional and economic sense. As to vitamins, a fully functioning hind gut will produce most water soluble vitamins needed. And, minerals are the easiest supplements to add. You don't need pressed hay and hulls to get them in the horse. |
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 The Bling Princess
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Location: North Dakota | mouse - 2013-12-17 11:57 AM I'm feeding Purina Enrich Plus and alfalfa pellets.......my one horse looks better and feels better than he did on Ultium.....
I feed beet pulp, Enrich 32, and alfalfa pellets to my IR boy and he does fantastic on it! |
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Location: Bandera, TX | WYOTurn-n-Burn - 2013-12-18 4:05 PM mouse - 2013-12-17 11:57 AM I'm feeding Purina Enrich Plus and alfalfa pellets.......my one horse looks better and feels better than he did on Ultium..... I feed beet pulp, Enrich 32, and alfalfa pellets to my IR boy and he does fantastic on it!
Molasses free beet pulp? |
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The Bling Princess
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Location: North Dakota | uno-dos-tres! - 2013-12-19 2:38 AM WYOTurn-n-Burn - 2013-12-18 4:05 PM mouse - 2013-12-17 11:57 AM I'm feeding Purina Enrich Plus and alfalfa pellets.......my one horse looks better and feels better than he did on Ultium..... I feed beet pulp, Enrich 32, and alfalfa pellets to my IR boy and he does fantastic on it!
I buy Standlee Beet Pulp pellets. There is small amount of molasses added during the drying process to prevent fermentation. However, despite that the NSC content is still very low. I cannot remember off the top of my head what it is. I want to say its about 12 or 13%?? Which is considered the "safe" range for horses with metabolic issues.
I also soak and rinse mine to remove as much of the added molasses as I can.
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