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Location: Barrel Horse World News | Hey everyone! It's time to call your senators and make sure they vote NO on the senate bill aiming to cut funds for our military. It's a compromise on budget cuts that Congress is trying to get through before they go home for Christmas.
My Oklahoma senators (Inhofe and Coburn) are voting NO and so should yours! Call them now. Tell them to support our military. My little brother is in the military and has suffered cuts enough.
We don't need Washington getting away with vacations across the world, shutting down the White House, AND continuing cuts on military spending.
Tell your senator to vote NO on HJ Res. 59. They can do better than this for our country! Our men and women in uniform deserve better! |
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Location: Barrel Horse World News | Just a follow up ... this compromise looks great. It is almost what we need. It just isn't there yet. The GOP is split, too. I support the GOP but we need to do better yet. Keep working, guys!
"Also, several Republican senators spoke Tuesday in opposition of the budget plan, largely because they say the bill would not reduce federal spending at high enough levels. At the same time, other senators were concerned the bill would cut too much from military spending. Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., said he voted against allowing the bill to proceed because it does not adhere to the fiscal restraints under the congressionally-approved Budget Control Act (BCA), which ended a debt-ceiling crisis in 2011 and ushered in sequestration. “I fully appreciate the constraints that Chairman Ryan and Chairman Murray faced in their negotiations,” McConnell said. “And there are clearly some good things to be said about their agreement. But in my view, we should not go back on the commitment we made under the BCA.”'
http://www.agri-pulse.com/Senate-poised-to-approve-two-year-budget-bill-to-avoid-shutdown-12172013.asp |
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 I Prefer to Live in Fantasy Land
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | This BS makes my head spin. The GOP is proving to be turds just like the Dems.
Thanks for posting this.
Prayers to our military men and women and to all our vets. 
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  That's White "Man" to You
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| I appreciate our service men and women. I appreciate the sacrifice they have made on my behalf. But...cuts have to be made. This just happens to be the first one that is making it real to everybody. If there aren't enough cuts this nation WILL fall, and it will be really really messy. My problem with military pensions is the 25 and done deal. I don't get to retire after 25 years, I get to double that, If I make it work for myself. I'm not saying I dont appreciate the service of these people, because I do. I only wish there were more cuts in all the other wasteful areas of government on the chopping block also. Flame away! |
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Location: I can see the end of the world from here! | Yes, cuts need to be made...however, the major role of the federal gov't is to protect our borders. Period. Unfortunately, politicians really like the concept of 'feasability'. It's most definitely their favorite 'f' word. Doesn't matter if it's right or wrong, if it's 'feasable' they will shove it down our throats because they cannot see the forrest for the trees. They just want to do 'something' even if it's wrong.
Oh well...here's a few of the things that they could at least consider cutting:
http://rare.us/story/the-government-spends-money-on-what-a-list-of-the-most-absurd-things-taxpayers-paid-for-last-year/
Sorry I cannot c/p it to this site, you'll have to click on it if you're interested! |
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Location: Texas | Whiteboy - 2013-12-18 3:11 PM
I appreciate our service men and women. I appreciate the sacrifice they have made on my behalf. But...cuts have to be made. This just happens to be the first one that is making it real to everybody. If there aren't enough cuts this nation WILL fall, and it will be really really messy. My problem with military pensions is the 25 and done deal. I don't get to retire after 25 years, I get to double that, If I make it work for myself. I'm not saying I dont appreciate the service of these people, because I do. I only wish there were more cuts in all the other wasteful areas of government on the chopping block also. Flame away!Â
I agree with you, somewhat. Cuts are being made and the military isn't exempt. However, someone who has spent 25 years in the military has earned every cent of their retirement pay and that should not be taken away from them. |
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Location: fun meter pegged OK | Whiteboy - 2013-12-18 3:11 PM I appreciate our service men and women. I appreciate the sacrifice they have made on my behalf. But...cuts have to be made. This just happens to be the first one that is making it real to everybody. If there aren't enough cuts this nation WILL fall, and it will be really really messy. My problem with military pensions is the 25 and done deal. I don't get to retire after 25 years, I get to double that, If I make it work for myself. I'm not saying I dont appreciate the service of these people, because I do. I only wish there were more cuts in all the other wasteful areas of government on the chopping block also. Flame away!
I am proud retired 20 yr military vet. I have been retired for 19 years. I do not know where they are coming up with the notion that just because I could go back to work for another 20, I should get less. My retirement was 50% of my base pay and believe me my pension when I retired was not enough to live on or support a family of 5. I had to go back to work.
I am a vet of Viet Nam, Urgent Fury, Just Cause, and Desert Storm. I have paid taxes like every one else. In fact, most pay raises (1-2%) put me in the next tax bracket so that the new pay check was less than the one 2 wks previous. When you are at the beck and call of the government 24/7 moved with or without your family - months or years at a time; then you can complain - I averaged 1 move every 15 mo.
I am not complaining, I am proud of the job I did and would do it again! But I'm definitely tired of the MILITARY PERSONNEL being the punching bag for all the budget cuts. What about Congressional pensions and automatic pay raises every year, what about the 30 Bil in wasteful spending, what about the credits that illegal aliens are getting.
I'm not saying that there is not waste in the military (I saw my fair share) but it is the logistics/regulations not the people. Just remember that the Primary function of the government when it was formed was to provide for NATIONAL DEFENSE of this country and you can't do that with a piece of paper. Remember the days of the DRAFT? How well do you think that will go over when you can no longer meet the quotas of an all volunteer force?
BTW that Pay decrease alsso applies to all the medically retired. So much for taking care of our wounded warriors! |
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Location: Somewhere between raising hell and Amazing Grace | Whiteboy - 2013-12-18 4:11 PM I appreciate our service men and women. I appreciate the sacrifice they have made on my behalf. But...cuts have to be made. This just happens to be the first one that is making it real to everybody. If there aren't enough cuts this nation WILL fall, and it will be really really messy. My problem with military pensions is the 25 and done deal. I don't get to retire after 25 years, I get to double that, If I make it work for myself. I'm not saying I dont appreciate the service of these people, because I do. I only wish there were more cuts in all the other wasteful areas of government on the chopping block also. Flame away!
You obviously do not have a true understanding of what they, the military, do. I'll let my husband know that he doesn't deserve his pension, as small as it is going to be, after his dedicated service, after he finally gets home around 9 or 10 after another long day at work. |
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Location: fun meter pegged OK | missroselee - 2013-12-18 7:08 PM Whiteboy - 2013-12-18 4:11 PM I appreciate our service men and women. I appreciate the sacrifice they have made on my behalf. But...cuts have to be made. This just happens to be the first one that is making it real to everybody. If there aren't enough cuts this nation WILL fall, and it will be really really messy. My problem with military pensions is the 25 and done deal. I don't get to retire after 25 years, I get to double that, If I make it work for myself. I'm not saying I dont appreciate the service of these people, because I do. I only wish there were more cuts in all the other wasteful areas of government on the chopping block also. Flame away! You obviously do not have a true understanding of what they, the military, do. I'll let my husband know that he doesn't deserve his pension, as small as it is going to be, after his dedicated service, after he finally gets home around 9 or 10 after another long day at work.
I so appreciate his service and can so relate! |
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Location: Somewhere between raising hell and Amazing Grace | yankeeredneck - 2013-12-18 8:12 PM missroselee - 2013-12-18 7:08 PM Whiteboy - 2013-12-18 4:11 PM I appreciate our service men and women. I appreciate the sacrifice they have made on my behalf. But...cuts have to be made. This just happens to be the first one that is making it real to everybody. If there aren't enough cuts this nation WILL fall, and it will be really really messy. My problem with military pensions is the 25 and done deal. I don't get to retire after 25 years, I get to double that, If I make it work for myself. I'm not saying I dont appreciate the service of these people, because I do. I only wish there were more cuts in all the other wasteful areas of government on the chopping block also. Flame away! You obviously do not have a true understanding of what they, the military, do. I'll let my husband know that he doesn't deserve his pension, as small as it is going to be, after his dedicated service, after he finally gets home around 9 or 10 after another long day at work.
Thank you for your service as well. You were there when so many ppl had no appreciation. But some of us will always appreciate everyone. |
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| I think you need to take a walk in a soldiers shoes for a day. Was that person you shot at a father, a brother, a son, a wife, a daughter, or a mother? What if you hesitate for a minute is it your life or there's? Could you seriously tell me you could look in the eyes of someone else and pull the trigger, could you live with the long hours for low pay, the distance from family, the chance of disfigurement, or severe injury, the stress, metal fatigue, post traumatic stress syndrome, depression, sleeping in poor conditions, eating military food the list goes on and on? If you answer yes to many of these questions I would suggest you enlist or see if Obama care will pay to get your head examined. Do I agree with the missions the military does... not always. Do I believe they need budget cuts, no way, because frankly I don't want their job. I suggest you go back to your office job, or farm job, or what ever profession you enjoy, and appreciate the freedom you have and enjoy on a daily basis. Merry Christmas. |
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| The sacrifice our military makes is beyond words, leaving their families for long term deployments, missing their babies being born, children's birthdays and sadly the ultimate sacrifice of their life. We need to take care of our military. |
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| Whiteboy - 2013-12-18 3:11 PM
I appreciate our service men and women. I appreciate the sacrifice they have made on my behalf. But...cuts have to be made. This just happens to be the first one that is making it real to everybody. If there aren't enough cuts this nation WILL fall, and it will be really really messy. My problem with military pensions is the 25 and done deal. I don't get to retire after 25 years, I get to double that, If I make it work for myself. I'm not saying I dont appreciate the service of these people, because I do. I only wish there were more cuts in all the other wasteful areas of government on the chopping block also. Flame away!Â
So you think it is ok to void the contract that you and I and every one else made to these people when they signed up? And some how you think that it is ok.....Really!! While I agree that the budget most be cut by trillions of dollars I am sure there are other ways. EPA, Department of education and the IRS would be my 1st choice I am sure we could find 6 billion there. Heck just get rid of the 16000 IRS agents we just hired to enforce Obama Care that's about half a billion. |
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Location: Washington | We have witnessed a lot of broken promises in 30 years of service. Our deal right now is to care for those who are serving. We will make the adjustments in home. This is nothing new. Please remember that. HOOHAH! |
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Location: The birthplace of Honest Abe | What I have a problem with is the ones saying 20 and done should get the cuts are our congressman who can do a two to four yr stint in congress and get pd that salary for the rest of their life plus free health care
Edited by jenijill 2013-12-18 8:28 PM
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| I believe we need to honor the existing contracts...But to think someone should retire after 20-30 years from any kind of work especially tax funded work is a crazy new wave American way of thinking. Get a job people...  |
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Location: Washington | jenijill - 2013-12-18 6:26 PM What I have a problem with is the ones saying 20 and done should get the cuts are our congressman who can do a two to four yr stint in congress and get pd that salary for the rest of their life plus free health care
Remember the knowing of going in for service knowing what your signing up for. The issue is the once promised, it's broken, and taken away. If people don't start voting people out(congress and everyone else in office right now) that is on us/ and we shall own it. IT SUCKS! |
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Location: Broxton, Ga | BarrelRacing4Christ - 2013-12-17 8:05 PM Whiteboy - 2013-12-18 3:11 PM I appreciate our service men and women. I appreciate the sacrifice they have made on my behalf. But...cuts have to be made. This just happens to be the first one that is making it real to everybody. If there aren't enough cuts this nation WILL fall, and it will be really really messy. My problem with military pensions is the 25 and done deal. I don't get to retire after 25 years, I get to double that, If I make it work for myself. I'm not saying I dont appreciate the service of these people, because I do. I only wish there were more cuts in all the other wasteful areas of government on the chopping block also. Flame away! I agree with you, somewhat. Cuts are being made and the military isn't exempt. However, someone who has spent 25 years in the military has earned every cent of their retirement pay and that should not be taken away from them.
Sorry but I disagree.....................
Why didn't they cut all federal employees.............not just pick on the military......... |
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Location: fun meter pegged OK | Federal employees (military excluded) are UNION |
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Famous for Not Complaining
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Location: Broxton, Ga | yankeeredneck - 2013-12-17 10:04 PM
Federal employees (military excluded) are UNION
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