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  Angel in a Sorrel Coat
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     Location: In a happy place | I have a 2005 Ford dually with the 6.0 engine. It has 98,000 miles on it and was told yesterday that the injectors are going out on it. I know this is the dreaded horrible engine what would you do? Sell it and get something else. Or fix it. I think I remember some previous posts about this engine but I can't remember what problems others have had with them. Money is tight for me now and I just need some input. I am afraid if I spend $3000 to fix it then pretty soon something else will go wrong with it. |
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 Shelter Dog Lover
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| Β Get ready for one thing after another to break, that was our experience with our 2004 model. Β As soon as it was out of warranty we had a 2k fix, think ok should be good, then within 6 months something else go out- another thousand. Β We would again think we have already put $$ in it so we will fix this and be good. Β Nope, in another 6-9 months another high $$ fix. Β Finally gave up and sold the piece of junk. Hope yours is better than ours was.Β
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  Sock eating dog owner
Posts: 4557
     Location: Where the pavement ends and the West begins Utah | We had a guy take our out and clean them then found out the pump was going out and was the problem all along,it makes me mad cause I told him so but he prefers to do it the hard and most expensive way .. get a second opinion. Maintainance is a long process. |
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       Location: East TN | Ours is a 2006 F250...We had to replace the FICM in 2012 and then just replaced 4 injectors last month. No warning that the injectors were going bad until headed home from a barrel race and had no power. What should have taken us 3 hours, took 7. The truck runs great now!! |
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 Midget Lover
          Location: Kentucky | We have a 2004 6.0. It just went to OK and back last weekend. It has over 200k miles on and hauls better than our 7.3. If you sell it with bad injectors you won't get anything out of it. If you buy the injectors and have a friend put them in, that will save you money. Or if you have a shop do it, research the shop and make sure they have experience with dealing with the 6.0. Not just a diesel shop, or a diesel mechanic, someone who knows this engine. Ours was bulletproofed long ago and no problems with it. 6.0s are one of those things where you get a good one till last forever, but if you get a bad one then open your pocketbook. |
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 Buttered Noodles Snacker
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        Location: NC | I bought a 2003 6.0 that had 160,000 miles on it about 6 years ago. it has 230,000 miles on it now I have only had to replace the alternator and the Control Module. Not sure if they replaced the injectors before I bought it or not but I have been happy with it so far. |
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Expert
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    Location: North Central Iowa Land of white frozen grass | I have a 06 f-350 with 76,000 miles on it and have never touched it yet. One thing that takes out injectors is either low fuel pressure or the F.I.C.M. or Fuel Injection Control Module. The solder in them goes bad on the connections and it runs low voltage to the injectors. You can send the ficm in to FICM Repair.com - Your Source for FICM Repair He is very respected in the 6.0 forums and will fix it with a lot better parts than new. Talk to him about putting in the Atlas 40 tune into it and you will not believe how much better it will run. If you want to learn about your truck go to Diesel Forum - TheDieselStop.com and scroll down to the 6.0 liter forums and read thru all the blogs. Ask your questions and the guys on their will help you out. They have a lot of knowledge and can help you fix any problem. The 6.0 are a very good engine once you fix their glitches. Just remember that the other brands are not perfect either. |
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| BS Hauler - 2013-12-18 8:46 PM
I have a 06 f-350 with 76,000 miles on it and have never touched it yet. One thing that takes out injectors is either low fuel pressure or the F.I.C.M. or Fuel Injection Control Module. The solder in them goes bad on the connections and it runs low voltage to the injectors. You can send the ficm in to FICM Repair.com - Your Source for FICM Repair He is very respected in the 6.0 forums and will fix it with a lot better parts than new. Talk to him about putting in the Atlas 40 tune into it and you will not believe how much better it will run. If you want to learn about your truck go to Diesel Forum - TheDieselStop.com and scroll down to the 6.0 liter forums and read thru all the blogs. Ask your questions and the guys on their will help you out. They have a lot of knowledge and can help you fix any problem. The 6.0 are a very good engine once you fix their glitches. Just remember that the otherΒ brands are not perfect either.
Listen to BS hauler, if you just change the injectors expect them to fail again...Plus you need to monitor the engine.
http://www.powerstroke.org/forum/general-6-0l-discussion/ |
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  Angel in a Sorrel Coat
Posts: 16030
     Location: In a happy place | BS Hauler - 2013-12-18 7:46 PM I have a 06 f-350 with 76,000 miles on it and have never touched it yet. One thing that takes out injectors is either low fuel pressure or the F.I.C.M. or Fuel Injection Control Module. The solder in them goes bad on the connections and it runs low voltage to the injectors. You can send the ficm in to FICM Repair.com - Your Source for FICM Repair He is very respected in the 6.0 forums and will fix it with a lot better parts than new. Talk to him about putting in the Atlas 40 tune into it and you will not believe how much better it will run. If you want to learn about your truck go to Diesel Forum - TheDieselStop.com and scroll down to the 6.0 liter forums and read thru all the blogs. Ask your questions and the guys on their will help you out. They have a lot of knowledge and can help you fix any problem. The 6.0 are a very good engine once you fix their glitches. Just remember that the other brands are not perfect either.
Thank you for the information. |
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 Living in Denial and Loving it
Posts: 1555
    Location: minnesota | We have an '05 that had 2 bad injectors and some serious front end issues. Struggled with this same question....
Mine was fully paid for.
Decided to eat the 9500 hundred dollars to replace ALL the injectors (not going down this road just to do it again soon) and the front end.
LOVE that truck! Happy to have it home and purring like a kitten. Sad I have a payment on it again, but I have no regrets. Drives like a Cadillac and hauls like a beast. Just like when I bought her. |
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 I Don't Brag
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| This is the first I have read about the injector issue that BS hauler refers to, will have to keep it in mind.
One of the biggest issues with the 6.0 is that the screen in the oil cooler plugs up. That cause the engine to run hot and will cause issues with the EGR system. Which cause the engine to run even hotter. At this point the truck begins to run rough and sluggish. If not dealt with it can cause the injectors to fail as well as the headgasket.
AT 87K on my '06 6.0, I decided to take prophylactic measures. I had the oil cooler replaced with a slightly larger one (should have gone with an aftermarket one but that one was quite a bit more expensive). I also has an EGR delete and had a coolant filter installed. I also want to get some gauges installed to monitor oil and coolant temps more closely as that will tell you if trouble is brewing in the engine.
If you wait too long everything can cascade and you are looking at pulling the cab to fix everything properly. The biggest mistake many make is just replacing one item on the list, say fixing the injectors or replacing the EGR valve, but the root problem, the oil cooler is going to continue to cause more breakdowns.
Knock on wood, my 6.0 was and continues to be a good one. I did have to have the EGR valve replaced a couple of times under warranty as well as the turbo, but the engine itself is running like a top. When I first got it, I had a hi performance tune done on it, rather than putting a chip or tuner on it. I do think that may have helped in preventing more serious issues.
I can't guarantee that if you get it fixed it won't cause you more issues down the road, but I CAN guarantee that you WILL have more issues if you don't get it fixed RIGHT.
I keep getting letters in the mail from both local Ford and Dodge dealers saying that they need my truck to sell because demand is high. I think I will hold on to it until it falls apart. They (Ford) don't make with a manual transmission anymore, so they
will never sell me another new one.
Best of luck. If you DO get it fixed, do some research and get someone who knows this engine and it's issues. |
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          Location: Kress, Texas | Just traded mine off today. I may end up regretting not just fixing it one more time, but time will tell. 2005 F250 bought it used with 58,000 miles. It has 161,000 miles on it today. replaced so far: erg valve and head gaskets at 100,000 alternator radiator transmission (case cracked/ was replaced with aftermarket better/heavier assembly) a/c compressor
and the last 2 weeks it won't hardly start. Acts like it is getting air in the fuel line and then floods out.
Have been told it could be the glow plugs, glow plug relay, injector pump, computer, etc....... (Yes, I know I could have paid to put it on the computer to find the problem)
It runs fine, IF I can get it started.
I traded it off this afternoon for a Chevy gas truck for now. When I really "need" the diesel, I will go back with another Ford F250, but a newer model. I lowered my payments, and my fuel bill for now. I don't have a heavy trailer and I don't haul that often. Plus we are basically on flat land around here. |
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 I'm not opinionated
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      Location: Online | If there wasn't a serious problem with the 6.0 there wouldn't be a class action lawsuit against them where people are getting paid back for repairs on the most constant problems. Those who haven't had any problems are just lucky or they have found a way to modify it to prevent the problems. I had one, put $12,000 in repairs between 63,000 and 75,000 miles. It started with 2 injectors and just went downhill from there.
If you went 98,000 miles and haven't put injectors in it, maybe you got a rare good one. That's good for injectors. |
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| I have heard injectors and head gasket issues with them. Some good info here though! |
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 I hate cooking and cleaning
Posts: 3314
     Location: Jersey Girl | Hubby and I bought a 2003 F250, 6.0 with only 58K miles on it. Ran great for the first 2 yrs we owned it and loved how it hauled and the great fuel mileage. The third year we dumped about 7k in the engine and it still ran like crap. Some of the money we spent was just maintenance...battery, replaced either the starter or alternator (can't remember which one), a sensor went, EGR, and then we had to replace all the injectors. We traded that hunk O'junk in on the Chevy dually and haven't had one prob with it since.
Oh and when we got rid of it it didn't eve have 100k miles on it yet......
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| I bought an 04 even knowing the bad sides of the motor and I did have to do the EGR delete. I've also replaced the alternator and batteries, but they were still factory parts. It's running perfect now and hopefully will stay that way because I LOVE the way it pulls. Hoping for the best from the EGR delete and really hoping it helps avoid the whole "blown head gasket" issue that a lot of people have. Good luck with yours! |
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 The Famous Hot Wing Chicken Girl
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| I have a 2005 with 129k on it and 1 injector is going bad. Only thing thats ever gone wrong.
Injectors go bad in any truck. It's part of having a diesel. You cant expect everything to be perfect in a 10 year old truck. |
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  The Original Cyber Bartender
          Location: Washington | Have a 2002/03, think it was the first year they came out with that engine. Under the 90.00o. mile mark but the only thing replaced in it was the turbo, and the Ford company paid for that.
Yes that engine is known for issues. BUT if I was in you situation with that truck I would go get a second opinion.
It's sad but some shops know the deal with that engine, and could be totally trying to cash in.
So sorry this is also on your plate of life, that is way to full. |
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 Midget Lover
          Location: Kentucky | fatchance - 2013-12-19 10:07 PM Have a 2002/03, think it was the first year they came out with that engine. Under the 90.00o. mile mark but the only thing replaced in it was the turbo, and the Ford company paid for that.
Yes that engine is known for issues. BUT if I was in you situation with that truck I would go get a second opinion.
It's sad but some shops know the deal with that engine, and could be totally trying to cash in.
So sorry this is also on your plate of life, that is way to full.
I agree. That's what I suggest someone that KNOWS the 6.0.
Also - I found that powerstrokenation.com or powerstrokearmy.com is a much more valuable resource than the dieselstop.com. Take it for what it's worth. |
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 Paint Horse Lover
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      Location: oklahoma | I have a 07 just replace the FICM and RIM or something like that it has a 160k . The guy they fixed it was awesome and didnt charge me my first born to pay for everything |
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