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Location: ohio-in my own little world with pretty ponies :) | I have one those....
every single bit I've put on him, he works well but I can tell he doesn't like. He gapes his mouth at certain times and sometimes acts like he is being gagged!
He has been checked out by 2 different equine dentists several times and this has been going on for awhile.
He really likes the S hack I have him in but he loses A lot of bend and some woah as well. Is there a hack that can help with what he loses in the S hack??
Ived had a horse communicator talk to him before and she even stated that he feels gagged with all his bits lol and he prefers a hack.
Edited because Obviously my phone thinks it knows what it's doing
Edited by lexyy12 2013-12-29 7:36 PM
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Location: ND | I would try a Clampitt hack. They've got a total different feel than most hacks and keep them really soft and bendy.
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Location: PA | I was going to say the same! I love my Clampitt hack!!! |
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Location: MS | I have a mare like this. We were at a Chris Cox clinic and he said that some horses can't tolerate the metal snaps on a metal bit. It irritates them.
I took the snaps off my reins and she's been fine with any bit I've used since. It's been 8 years. |
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| I have a horse like that! Except I don't dare use a hackmore on him because I really don't have enough bend or control with that. I found he worked great in just a really simple 3 piece gag, it's quite similar to a goosetree simplicity but not quite as long of shanks or gag, with all 3 pieces smooth. And if I ran him in poles I'd put a tie down on him for a little more control, not sure if you'd need that though. And surprisingly, he also really liked this bit http://www.cowboycountryclothing.ca/product/dutton-double-twisted-s... but I found the simpler and more basic I tried, the more he liked it. |
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Location: USA | Have you tried a combination bit? The Million Dollar bit works for me but sometimes I think it's might need a longer shank, longer shanks on my horses keeps them for shouldering in with me. |
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Location: Texas! | My gelding LOVES his hack, I tried running him in a bit the other weekend and he gave me the big middle finger and we looked pretty stupid, put his hack back on and ran the fastest time of the day. Needless to say I will no longer run him in a bit! He works fine in a bit at home so we now use a bit for slow work and flat work but run only in his hack. |
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Location: ohio-in my own little world with pretty ponies :) | I am THE WORST bit person! The ones that he seems to really like are the O ring snaffle and the jr cow horse. |
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| I have had the same problem with a mare I run. When I finally switched to a hack she stopped being a handful to warm up to. I use a chain nose hack by Ed and Martha Wright. |
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Location: NC | lexyy12 - 2013-12-29 9:06 PM
I am THE WORST bit person! The ones that he seems to really like are the O ring snaffle and the jr cow horse.
Does he RUN well in the Little S?
I have a gelding who loves to noodle neck & gap his mouth & look rabid at times with a bit in his mouth. Snaffle, Jr Cow, doesn't matter.
I run him in the Little S & he does great.
I work him at home & on slow work in a lifter to keep him supple & working like he should. I have ZERO problems with whoa though. All you have to do is think it & he's stopped. LOL
Edited by hlynn 2013-12-29 8:22 PM
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Location: SE Louisiana | I'd have the teeth checked by somebody that KNOWS horse teeth... |
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Location: ohio-in my own little world with pretty ponies :) | He runs perfect in the little s. He has an extremely good woah but loses some with the hack. He also loses some bend. I can tell he prefers the hack over any bit. |
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Location: ohio-in my own little world with pretty ponies :) | Komet - 2013-12-29 9:22 PM
I'd have the teeth checked by somebody that KNOWS horse teeth...
I've had two different equine dentists out to check him. The one has been doing my horses teeth for 10 years and the other I brought out to check him in case my guy missed something. |
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Location: NC | lexyy12 - 2013-12-29 9:23 PM
He runs perfect in the little s. He has an extremely good woah but loses some with the hack. He also loses some bend. I can tell he prefers the hack over any bit.
Work him at home in something with more lift/whoa/bend. I work mine at home, doing slow work, exhibitioning, and warming up in the lifter bit.
I wait until the last minute & switch out my lifter & split reins for my Little S & one piece reins before I run.
As soon as I'm done, I switch back.
Seems to work well for us. :)
Ty Mitchell has a video on the Josey website & YouTube on bit selection. And it's not just a sale video! Lol. He explains a few different bits and how they work. He also says that if you run in a hack, to work at home in a bit with more lift & bend to it so the horse doesn't become stiff. I run & work in two different bits bc that's what hubby was told to do by Add Waddell years ago for this particular gelding I'm running.
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Location: SE Louisiana | lexyy12 - 2013-12-29 8:24 PM
Komet - 2013-12-29 9:22 PM
I'd have the teeth checked by somebody that KNOWS horse teeth...
I've had two different equine dentists out to check him. The one has been doing my horses teeth for 10 years and the other I brought out to check him in case my guy missed something.
Have you tried a Sweet Iron bit? |
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Location: ohio-in my own little world with pretty ponies :) | I do slow work in either of the 2 bits I mentioned above. But he acts like he is being gagged |
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Location: Georgia | I have had success with several fussy mouthed horses (after teeth checks of course) with a bit called a peewee bit. It's made by old Macs equine. It has no moving parts inside the mouth but works on the lower jaw for lateral control. I'll try to post a picture. That said, these are horses being retrained not finished barrel horses, I am not by any means an expert barrel racer. |
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Location: ohio-in my own little world with pretty ponies :) | Komet - 2013-12-29 9:28 PM
lexyy12 - 2013-12-29 8:24 PM
Komet - 2013-12-29 9:22 PM
I'd have the teeth checked by somebody that KNOWS horse teeth...
I've had two different equine dentists out to check him. The one has been doing my horses teeth for 10 years and the other I brought out to check him in case my guy missed something.
Have you tried a Sweet Iron bit?
I have not! Picture maybe? |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | Sounds like he might have a thick tongue.
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Location: SE Louisiana | lexyy12 - 2013-12-29 8:32 PM
Komet - 2013-12-29 9:28 PM
lexyy12 - 2013-12-29 8:24 PM
Komet - 2013-12-29 9:22 PM
I'd have the teeth checked by somebody that KNOWS horse teeth...
I've had two different equine dentists out to check him. The one has been doing my horses teeth for 10 years and the other I brought out to check him in case my guy missed something.
Have you tried a Sweet Iron bit?
I have not! Picture maybe?
Copper plaited bit... Try sucking on a penny... You will get the idea.. |
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