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BleuIdGrl
Reg. May 2010
Posted 2013-12-30 11:44 AM
Subject: Standard Pattern debate


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Some ladies an I were discussing...something irrelevent and for some reason I brought up the standard pattern. I suddenly became the biggest idiot known to man. All I heard was, there's no such thing as a standard pattern, patterns are based on the arena size so there's no way to make a "standard" pattern,,yadda yadda yadda...I told them that if I wasn't mistaken ( a little sarcasm) that WPRA most definately had a standard pattern, but they brought up some point that got me wondering. Do they try to find arenas that the standard pattern will fit in or do they use any arena and just have standard pattern measurements in the book? Does that make sense? I've never run WPRA, just hasn't been in the cards for me, but its on my todo list and I'm learning...so...TEACH ME!!!! hahaha
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OregonBR
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2013-12-30 11:49 AM
Subject: RE: Standard Pattern debate


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You are correct the WPRA has a standard pattern.  60' from the first and second barrels to the timer line, 90' between the first and second barrels and 105' feet to the 3rd barrel from the first and second barrel.  Out west we have a lot of outdoor arenas big enough to run a standard pattern in.  Some indoors big enough as well. If the arena being used isn't big enough, the size of the course will be reduced in porportion to the size of the arena.   
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Three 4 Luck
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2013-12-30 12:27 PM
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I don't know if the rules have changed, but when I was going, the first few girls who were up for that rodeo had the responsibility of staking the pattern. If you were lucky, the judge or committee would do it, because left to the girls, they would set it to suit their own horses.
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fatchance
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2013-12-30 12:43 PM
Subject: RE: Standard Pattern debate


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Oregon nailed it.
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rodeomom3
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2013-12-30 1:43 PM
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fatchance - 2013-12-30 12:43 PM Oregon nailed it.

Yes she did, and a true standard pattern is the only way to compare times between horses since each arena has a different pattern.  The ANHA in Waco runs on a standard pattern- the only race around here that does.  
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batkitty
Reg. Jul 2008
Posted 2013-12-30 1:46 PM
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So how big is the pattern at Pendleton? That thing seems huge!
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DD2012
Reg. Apr 2012
Posted 2013-12-30 1:49 PM
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rodeomom3 - 2013-12-30 1:43 PM

fatchance - 2013-12-30 12:43 PM Oregon nailed it.

Yes she did, and a true standard pattern is the only way to compare times between horses since each arena has a different pattern.  The ANHA in Waco runs on a standard pattern- the only race around here that does.  

Diamond W used to(maybe still does sometimes) set a standard set


To much beaching from the WW's made them start using a smaller pattern

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sassy&tessa
Reg. Jul 2008
Posted 2013-12-30 1:49 PM
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rodeomom3 - 2013-12-30 1:43 PM
fatchance - 2013-12-30 12:43 PM Oregon nailed it.
Yes she did, and a true standard pattern is the only way to compare times between horses since each arena has a different pattern.  The ANHA in Waco runs on a standard pattern- the only race around here that does.  

I thought Alvarado was set on a standard?  If it isn't I think it is dang close!

And ditto to Oregon.  That is the only way someone can say they hold the world record in barrels (currently held by someone in Brazil). Everything else is an arena record. 
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rodeomom3
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2013-12-30 1:51 PM
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It may, I have never run there, from Waco to down south is my stomping grounds :). 
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rodeomom3
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2013-12-30 1:53 PM
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batkitty - 2013-12-30 1:46 PM So how big is the pattern at Pendleton? That thing seems huge!
Pendleton is huge, don't know the measurements but a 28 won it this year and the record on a standard is 16.6 or 16.7.  Any 16 or low 17 on standard and you have a nice horse.

Edited by rodeomom3 2013-12-30 1:54 PM
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Prehistoric
Reg. Mar 2004
Posted 2013-12-30 1:53 PM
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batkitty - 2013-12-30 1:46 PM So how big is the pattern at Pendleton? That thing seems huge!
It's standard on heavy duty steroids!
(you could say they made it to fit the pen)

 

Edited by Prehistoric 2013-12-30 1:55 PM
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TurnLane
Reg. May 2007
Posted 2013-12-30 2:06 PM
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I had a question about this topic.

Is it 60 foot from the stakes to the timer stakes and the time sits on the center of that stake?? And do they always consider the barrel to be ON TOP of the center of the stake or is the barrel on the inside of the stake? Just tiny details that I am sure are written but I didn't want to go look for them.
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OregonBR
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2013-12-30 2:45 PM
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TurnLane - 2013-12-30 12:06 PM I had a question about this topic. Is it 60 foot from the stakes to the timer stakes and the time sits on the center of that stake?? And do they always consider the barrel to be ON TOP of the center of the stake or is the barrel on the inside of the stake? Just tiny details that I am sure are written but I didn't want to go look for them.

The measurement is stake to stake.  The eye and the barrels are suppose to be centered over the stakes.  This is not always how it's done.  Some parts of the country set the barrels inside the stake rope.  To me this is not correct. 

Pendleton rodeo arena doubles as a football field for the school games.  So as not to destroy the grass, they set the barrels on the dirt track around the outside of the field.  That's the only way to make it somewhat safe to turn on.  So its very much larger than a standard pattern.  Somewhere I saw what the actual measurements were, but I don't know where that was. 
   
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OregonBR
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2013-12-30 2:47 PM
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This is the winner of the short go and average from 2013.   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5VPjCpwMm4
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FLITASTIC
Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2013-12-30 3:42 PM
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Pendleton has a 60ft score line and its 280ft between 1 and 2 and 280ft to the third barrel. With a longggggggggggg run home! Lol
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dianeguinn
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2013-12-30 4:01 PM
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sassy&tessa - 2013-12-30 1:49 PM

rodeomom3 - 2013-12-30 1:43 PM
fatchance - 2013-12-30 12:43 PM Oregon nailed it.
Yes she did, and a true standard pattern is the only way to compare times between horses since each arena has a different pattern.  The ANHA in Waco runs on a standard pattern- the only race around here that does.  

I thought Alvarado was set on a standard?  If it isn't I think it is dang close!

And ditto to Oregon.  That is the only way someone can say they hold the world record in barrels (currently held by someone in Brazil). Everything else is an arena record. 

Actually, the current record was set in Brazil, but it was an American who did it, riding a son of Dash For Perks.
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TurnLane
Reg. May 2007
Posted 2013-12-30 4:44 PM
Subject: RE: Standard Pattern debate



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rodeomom3 - 2013-12-30 1:43 PM
fatchance - 2013-12-30 12:43 PM Oregon nailed it.
Yes she did, and a true standard pattern is the only way to compare times between horses since each arena has a different pattern.  The ANHA in Waco runs on a standard pattern- the only race around here that does.  

I thought Alvarado was set on a standard?  If it isn't I think it is dang close!

And ditto to Oregon.  That is the only way someone can say they hold the world record in barrels (currently held by someone in Brazil). Everything else is an arena record. 

Actually, the current record was set in Brazil, but it was an American who did it, riding a son of Dash For Perks.

Wasn't it a daughter of DFP?
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magic gunsmoke
Reg. Dec 2010
Posted 2013-12-30 4:49 PM
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TurnLane - 2013-12-30 5:44 PM
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sassy&tessa - 2013-12-30 1:49 PM
rodeomom3 - 2013-12-30 1:43 PM
fatchance - 2013-12-30 12:43 PM Oregon nailed it.
Yes she did, and a true standard pattern is the only way to compare times between horses since each arena has a different pattern.  The ANHA in Waco runs on a standard pattern- the only race around here that does.  
I thought Alvarado was set on a standard?  If it isn't I think it is dang close!



And ditto to Oregon.  That is the only way someone can say they hold the world record in barrels (currently held by someone in Brazil). Everything else is an arena record. 
Actually, the current record was set in Brazil, but it was an American who did it, riding a son of Dash For Perks.
Wasn't it a daughter of DFP?

It was a mare:

http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/ms+perky+bug

Only reason-I have followed the horse as she is bred similiar to mine. Not that I would make a huge deal out of it (ie if selling my guy)...but I have personally followed because I thought it was cool.
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sassy&tessa
Reg. Jul 2008
Posted 2013-12-30 5:32 PM
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dianeguinn - 2013-12-30 4:01 PM
sassy&tessa - 2013-12-30 1:49 PM
rodeomom3 - 2013-12-30 1:43 PM
fatchance - 2013-12-30 12:43 PM Oregon nailed it.
Yes she did, and a true standard pattern is the only way to compare times between horses since each arena has a different pattern.  The ANHA in Waco runs on a standard pattern- the only race around here that does.  
I thought Alvarado was set on a standard?  If it isn't I think it is dang close!



And ditto to Oregon.  That is the only way someone can say they hold the world record in barrels (currently held by someone in Brazil). Everything else is an arena record. 
Actually, the current record was set in Brazil, but it was an American who did it, riding a son of Dash For Perks.

Diane-I actually meant to say that.  Sorry.  I am only doing a fly by night deal right now as I am slammed at work.  Sorry- 
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quikchik
Reg. Jun 2007
Posted 2013-12-30 6:09 PM
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fatchance - 2013-12-30 12:43 PM Oregon nailed it.
Yes she did, and a true standard pattern is the only way to compare times between horses since each arena has a different pattern.  The ANHA in Waco runs on a standard pattern- the only race around here that does.  

I thought Alvarado was set on a standard?  If it isn't I think it is dang close!

And ditto to Oregon.  That is the only way someone can say they hold the world record in barrels (currently held by someone in Brazil). Everything else is an arena record. 

Actually, the current record was set in Brazil, but it was an American who did it, riding a son of Dash For Perks.

Wasn't it a daughter of DFP?

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