Log in to my account Barrel Horse World
Come on in Folks on-line

Today is

You are logged in as a guest. Logon or register an account to access more features.


Tilted Pelvis

Jump to page :
Last activity 2014-11-28 3:03 PM
21 replies, 5936 views

View previous thread :: View next thread
   General Discussion -> Barrel Talk
Refresh
 
Rustynailfl
Reg. Jun 2011
Posted 2014-01-06 2:36 PM
Subject: Tilted Pelvis




500100252525
Had the vet out to inject my horses hocks for the first time, while he was looking him over he noticed that he has a slightly tilted pelvis and had built up scar tissue, so it is something he has had for some time. Vet recommended chiro regularly. I’m not exactly sure how often I should have it done..

I had him chiro’ed about 3 weeks ago. Our first run back was a total turn around, and our second run 3 days later this past weekend was even better. I’m going to start with just watching him and when he starts to not perform like usual have him done again.

Does anyone have any experience with a horse with a tilted pelvis, and what did you do to help keep him comfortable?

Thanks much!!
↑ Top ↓ Bottom
wyoming barrel racer
Reg. Apr 2006
Posted 2014-01-06 3:44 PM
Subject: RE: Tilted Pelvis


Military family

Neat Freak


Posts: 11216
500050001000100100
Location: Wonderful Wyoming
Rustynailfl - 2014-01-06 1:36 PM Had the vet out to inject my horses hocks for the first time, while he was looking him over he noticed that he has a slightly tilted pelvis and had built up scar tissue, so it is something he has had for some time. Vet recommended chiro regularly. I’m not exactly sure how often I should have it done.. I had him chiro’ed about 3 weeks ago. Our first run back was a total turn around, and our second run 3 days later this past weekend was even better. I’m going to start with just watching him and when he starts to not perform like usual have him done again. Does anyone have any experience with a horse with a tilted pelvis, and what did you do to help keep him comfortable? Thanks much!!

if it is tilted and has scar tissue, I'm going to say he has broken it at some point. My 6yr had a lot of issues and all the vets thought hocks were making him sore in his SI. I could chiro him and get one great run and then he'd be sore in the back again. Found out it was from a broken pelvis and his prognosis for continuing barrel racing are poor unless I want to chiro after every run which isn't fair to him. He is getting 2 yrs of turn out to come back as a ranch and or hunter under saddle horse.

Broken pelvis is way more common than people think and not all show extreme lameness. Some are just "off" for a short period of time, some have a dropped hip and some bleed out internally and die immediatly. It can be from a slip, turning wrong or slipping while turning a barrel. Good luck, I hope yours continues to do better than mine did. 
↑ Top ↓ Bottom
BKC2112
Reg. Aug 2013
Posted 2014-01-07 3:26 AM
Subject: RE: Tilted Pelvis



Veteran


Posts: 164
1002525
Location: Oregon
Im Interested in this as well. Will they always have a slight limp? Or with time off / turn out will they eventually heal and not have a limp?
↑ Top ↓ Bottom
trickster j
Reg. Nov 2007
Posted 2014-01-07 7:08 AM
Subject: RE: Tilted Pelvis


Too busy outside!


Posts: 5417
5000100100100100
This could be left from a torn SI ligament- here's a good illustration to explain-
eta: the tilt appears because of the scar tissue that was laid down to "fix" the tear.  Sometimes it can be a large enough tilt to look like a true hunters bump, and sometimes it can be minimal, resulting in just a slight twist or tilt to the pelvis.  
Just my first thought is all- 

 

Edited by trickster j 2014-01-07 7:13 AM




(huntersbump.jpg)



Attachments
----------------
Attachments huntersbump.jpg (27KB - 156 downloads)
↑ Top ↓ Bottom
Rustynailfl
Reg. Jun 2011
Posted 2014-01-07 8:56 AM
Subject: RE: Tilted Pelvis




500100252525
trickster j - 2014-01-07 8:08 AM

This could be left from a torn SI ligament- here's a good illustration to explain-
eta: the tilt appears because of the scar tissue that was laid down to "fix" the tear. Β Sometimes it can be a large enough tilt to look like a true hunters bump, and sometimes it can be minimal, resulting in just a slight twist or tilt to the pelvis. Β 
Just my first thought is all-Β 

Β 

This is very interesting! Im going to mention this with my vet, thank you!
↑ Top ↓ Bottom
wyoming barrel racer
Reg. Apr 2006
Posted 2014-01-07 9:07 AM
Subject: RE: Tilted Pelvis


Military family

Neat Freak


Posts: 11216
500050001000100100
Location: Wonderful Wyoming
BKC2112 - 2014-01-07 2:26 AM Im Interested in this as well. Will they always have a slight limp? Or with time off / turn out will they eventually heal and not have a limp?

If that was directed at my comment, they can heal completely and the lucky ones can still compete. It has to be of the nature where they aren't that lame to begin with (so harder to diagnose) and then they need a long period of stall rest in hopes they don't move it getting up and laying down.

Mine went unknown so he healed in pasture. It didn't heal symmetrical so the new shape makes his muscles sore. He is already healed, but since he is young, the vet had hopes that turn out would allow his back muscles to adjust to the new shape.  He didn't feel he would be a barrel horse, or any kind of horse that does fast turns, hard stops. He was never lame that I remember ever, but it either happened when he was at the trainer getting broke at 3 (but doubtful because I rode him hard as a 4yr old with no issues) or when he had the winter off while I was pregnant because as soon as I started to ride him and haul, he started to get sore.

He was only lame when he slipped at the last barrel race I was out and acted like his stifles were sore. He must have pulled something because when he was checked the next month and the pelvis issue was found, it was healed from at least a year, maybe more.
↑ Top ↓ Bottom
Rustynailfl
Reg. Jun 2011
Posted 2014-01-07 9:48 AM
Subject: RE: Tilted Pelvis




500100252525
BKC2112 - 2014-01-07 4:26 AM

Im Interested in this as well. Will they always have a slight limp? Or with time off / turn out will they eventually heal and not have a limp?

My guy has never limped. He only started to perform poorly and didn’t want to sit and turn like he used to. This is why we thought hocks, then the vet noticed his pelvis tilt. I had his hocks injected anyway just to start ruling things out. After that and having him chiro'ed he has made a good turn around. Before he would buck/crow hop during warm up and while running the pattern he would do it right before/going into a turn. Im just waiting to see how often he is going to need chiro'ed.

I believe he has had this issue for a while and it was over looked, and in the meantime he built up the scar tissue to heal whatever injury or sprain he had. (That’s just my guess).

This is a good article I found you may be interested in...

http://www.equestrianlife.com.au/horsecare/Understanding-the-sacroi...

My guy looks like the horse in Diagram 3, with the one side dipped more than the other and less muscle built up.

Edited to say: I should actually say he has never limped since I have owned him. I have had him for about 4 years, he was off for a number of years before I got him as the girl didnt have interest anymore.

Edited by Rustynailfl 2014-01-07 9:54 AM
↑ Top ↓ Bottom
sophiebelle
Reg. Jul 2008
Posted 2014-01-07 4:38 PM
Subject: RE: Tilted Pelvis



I Am Always Right


Posts: 4264
200020001001002525
Location: stray dump capital of the world
 I was here when my horse fractured his goofing off in the pasture. It was horrific. Nonetheless, we followed the vets advice to the T and some very knowledgeable people on this site.  I never expected mine to go back to barrel racing. I had just gotten him home from the trainers as a 3 year old. You can't tell he is tilted looking from behind. If you look at his flanks, one is pushed in more than the other. Somedays he has no limp and others a very slight gimp. He is now a trail horse as I don't want to risk further damage. I can tell you, that sucker runs, bucks, slides on his hiney and roll backs freely in the pasture. I'm not going to ask him to do some of those maneuvers while in the saddle.  He is a healthy, beautiful, horse that I still get to enjoy even if it isn't barrel racing.  

Best of luck to you. 
↑ Top ↓ Bottom
trickster j
Reg. Nov 2007
Posted 2014-01-07 9:18 PM
Subject: RE: Tilted Pelvis


Too busy outside!


Posts: 5417
5000100100100100
Rustynailfl - 2014-01-07 7:56 AM
trickster j - 2014-01-07 8:08 AM This could be left from a torn SI ligament- here's a good illustration to explain-

eta: the tilt appears because of the scar tissue that was laid down to "fix" the tear.  Sometimes it can be a large enough tilt to look like a true hunters bump, and sometimes it can be minimal, resulting in just a slight twist or tilt to the pelvis.  

Just my first thought is all- 


 
This is very interesting! Im going to mention this with my vet, thank you!

You are very welcome!  Let me know how it all goes!  :
↑ Top ↓ Bottom
turnedout
Reg. Dec 2013
Posted 2014-11-25 7:55 PM
Subject: RE: Tilted Pelvis


Veteran


Posts: 264
1001002525
Was wondering if you could update us all on how your horse is doing. Currently dealing with a "dropped" hip after getting cast. :(
↑ Top ↓ Bottom
trickster j
Reg. Nov 2007
Posted 2014-11-25 9:53 PM
Subject: RE: Tilted Pelvis


Too busy outside!


Posts: 5417
5000100100100100
turnedout - 2014-11-25 6:55 PM Was wondering if you could update us all on how your horse is doing. Currently dealing with a "dropped" hip after getting cast. :(

What did you get cast? 
↑ Top ↓ Bottom
wyoming barrel racer
Reg. Apr 2006
Posted 2014-11-25 9:55 PM
Subject: RE: Tilted Pelvis


Military family

Neat Freak


Posts: 11216
500050001000100100
Location: Wonderful Wyoming
guessing cast in his stall as in stuck up against the wall and struggled 
↑ Top ↓ Bottom
turnedout
Reg. Dec 2013
Posted 2014-11-25 9:58 PM
Subject: RE: Tilted Pelvis


Veteran


Posts: 264
1001002525
Yep! Got stuck in the panels. Called vet out immediately to check for injury, she did a full lameness exam and said he was fine. Called chiro next and he said his hip dropped. :-/ So trying to find as much info as possible.
↑ Top ↓ Bottom
trickster j
Reg. Nov 2007
Posted 2014-11-25 10:01 PM
Subject: RE: Tilted Pelvis


Too busy outside!


Posts: 5417
5000100100100100
A dropped hip would mean that the ligament connecting the sacrum to the hip was damaged.  Rest and anti-inflammatories would be the best emergency care- if you can decrease inflammation and swelling there is a better chance that it will go back to the way it was pre-injury. 
↑ Top ↓ Bottom
wyoming barrel racer
Reg. Apr 2006
Posted 2014-11-25 10:06 PM
Subject: RE: Tilted Pelvis


Military family

Neat Freak


Posts: 11216
500050001000100100
Location: Wonderful Wyoming
it could also mean cracked ilium. Hopefully not though. 
↑ Top ↓ Bottom
Thistle2011
Reg. Mar 2012
Posted 2014-11-25 10:15 PM
Subject: RE: Tilted Pelvis



The BHW Book Worm


Posts: 1768
10005001001002525
I'm bumping this up. I recently purchased a horse that passed a pre-purchase exam flexed and moved fine but a few days after I notes a little asymmetry in her hips. I had a chiro come out who is also a vet adjust her. She seemed pretty optimistic that we could get her comfortable. We are first treating her 28 days ulcer guard because she strongly felt the ulcers were effecting her back causing the previous hip condition to exacerbate. She moves equally on both sides and has a wide range of motion, picks up both leads equally well the only thing that tips me off is she is a little hollow through that back and a little stiff through the neck and back at a canter.
I really am keeping my fingers crossed that most of the problems with this mares hip and lower back are related to the fact when I purchased her.
She is a little over 3 on body condition.
Had never had her teeth done and it was BAD
Extremely under run heels that are crushed
Bad ulcers not yet in the hind gut though.
all these problems can put stress on the lower back X pelvis....I will add this mare is 5 and halter broke only lol...she really did pass a pre purchase exam even though I will admit I chose to go with a cheaper equine vet than I normally use because the horse wasn't expensive.


Edited by Thistle2011 2014-11-25 11:10 PM




(20141121_102601.jpg)



Attachments
----------------
Attachments 20141121_102601.jpg (38KB - 205 downloads)
↑ Top ↓ Bottom
turnedout
Reg. Dec 2013
Posted 2014-11-25 10:16 PM
Subject: RE: Tilted Pelvis


Veteran


Posts: 264
1001002525
Thank you both!

When the vet was examining him, she focused more on the lower limbs, but I did ask about pelvic fractures. She simply went and yanked his tail up and said he wouldn't allow her to do that if anything was broken. Has anyone heard of that?

I've been taking weekly hind end photos to keep track of changes, it seems like primarily muscle atrophy, nothing drastic like I have seen in some of the other photos floating around.

↑ Top ↓ Bottom
wyoming barrel racer
Reg. Apr 2006
Posted 2014-11-25 10:33 PM
Subject: RE: Tilted Pelvis


Military family

Neat Freak


Posts: 11216
500050001000100100
Location: Wonderful Wyoming
turnedout - 2014-11-25 9:16 PM Thank you both! When the vet was examining him, she focused more on the lower limbs, but I did ask about pelvic fractures. She simply went and yanked his tail up and said he wouldn't allow her to do that if anything was broken. Has anyone heard of that? I've been taking weekly hind end photos to keep track of changes, it seems like primarily muscle atrophy, nothing drastic like I have seen in some of the other photos floating around.

eh no. Mine would let me do just about anything with him. I was barrel racing him, did some jumping. He had been massaged several times as that is what kept him feeling good. He was a bit resistant when one hind leg was up for the farrier. A pelvic exam by a GOOD vet is a cheap way to find out. Then if they are unsure, go ahead and have one ultrasound the area. They can see spacing differences if a fracture is suspected because rarely do they heal symmetrical unless given stall rest and a lot of luck. I could play with my horse's tail all day long. 
↑ Top ↓ Bottom
sophiebelle
Reg. Jul 2008
Posted 2014-11-26 8:10 AM
Subject: RE: Tilted Pelvis



I Am Always Right


Posts: 4264
200020001001002525
Location: stray dump capital of the world
wyoming barrel racer - 2014-11-25 10:33 PM
turnedout - 2014-11-25 9:16 PM Thank you both! When the vet was examining him, she focused more on the lower limbs, but I did ask about pelvic fractures. She simply went and yanked his tail up and said he wouldn't allow her to do that if anything was broken. Has anyone heard of that? I've been taking weekly hind end photos to keep track of changes, it seems like primarily muscle atrophy, nothing drastic like I have seen in some of the other photos floating around.
eh no. Mine would let me do just about anything with him. I was barrel racing him, did some jumping. He had been massaged several times as that is what kept him feeling good. He was a bit resistant when one hind leg was up for the farrier. A pelvic exam by a GOOD vet is a cheap way to find out. Then if they are unsure, go ahead and have one ultrasound the area. They can see spacing differences if a fracture is suspected because rarely do they heal symmetrical unless given stall rest and a lot of luck. I could play with my horse's tail all day long. 

 I agree. When mine fractured his pelvis, I could move his tail all over and he was fine with that...even as a fresh fracture. I'd look for a 2nd opinion. Even if nothing shows, peace of mind is worth it. 
↑ Top ↓ Bottom
trickster j
Reg. Nov 2007
Posted 2014-11-26 8:37 AM
Subject: RE: Tilted Pelvis


Too busy outside!


Posts: 5417
5000100100100100
sophiebelle - 2014-11-26 7:10 AM
wyoming barrel racer - 2014-11-25 10:33 PM
turnedout - 2014-11-25 9:16 PM Thank you both! When the vet was examining him, she focused more on the lower limbs, but I did ask about pelvic fractures. She simply went and yanked his tail up and said he wouldn't allow her to do that if anything was broken. Has anyone heard of that? I've been taking weekly hind end photos to keep track of changes, it seems like primarily muscle atrophy, nothing drastic like I have seen in some of the other photos floating around.
eh no. Mine would let me do just about anything with him. I was barrel racing him, did some jumping. He had been massaged several times as that is what kept him feeling good. He was a bit resistant when one hind leg was up for the farrier. A pelvic exam by a GOOD vet is a cheap way to find out. Then if they are unsure, go ahead and have one ultrasound the area. They can see spacing differences if a fracture is suspected because rarely do they heal symmetrical unless given stall rest and a lot of luck. I could play with my horse's tail all day long. 
 I agree. When mine fractured his pelvis, I could move his tail all over and he was fine with that...even as a fresh fracture. I'd look for a 2nd opinion. Even if nothing shows, peace of mind is worth it. 

I agree with the other girls- the tail yank would show nothing, except that you need a more educated vet.   
↑ Top ↓ Bottom
Jump to page :
Jump to forum :
Search this forum
Printer friendly version
E-mail a link to this thread
 

© Copyright 2002- BarrelHorseWorld.com All rights reserved including digital rights

Support - Contact / Log in to my account


Working Truck World Working Horse World Cargo Trailer World Horse Trailer World Roping Horse World
'
Registered to: Barrel Horse World
(Delete all cookies set by this site)
Running MegaBBS ASP Forum Software
© 2002-2025 PD9 Software