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Am I the only one who truly believes most horses with proper training and a competent jockey have the potential to be 2D? Im talking about sound, sane horses in their prime, not injured horses or horses that are 22 yo.
Ive seen a horse that was pulled off a dude ranch and he ran a tenth off an arena record and Ive seen plenty of ranch horses trained and running hard 1D-2D times.
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Location: Kentucky | Can't say I agree with you on that one. |
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Location: Beggs, OK | It's about heart and want to.... I've had a few that just didn't want to. They could run 3D times all day long, but wouldn't give that extra little bit that it takes to be tough.
1D - 2D horses are tough because they will give up that little bit of themselves that will eventually get them hurt because they are trying so hard. |
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Location: Desert Land | I don't agree. I had a very nice Sticks N Stones son and he had a very solid, consistent pretty honest pattern, but he did not have the gas. If you asked him for his life he'd be 1 second off, but he was much happier about 1.5 sec-2 secs off. |
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| if every ones horse had a super foundation on them and a jockey that has a real understanding of communication under saddle there would more in the 1/2D. but I wouldn't say every horse
Edited by Thistle2011 2014-01-08 12:21 PM
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Location: GA | Don't agree either ... one of the mares I ride now, she's honest & tries hard but she is 3D local/4D World. |
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| Lucky_H - 2014-01-08 12:21 PM
Don't agree either ... one of the mares I ride now, she's honest & tries hard but she is 3D local/4D World.
In no place did I say all horses or even all sound horses...
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Location: Kansas | Maybe most, but not all. In the past few years, my family has owned 4 different horses that did not have even top of the 3D potential. They were all nice horses who served a purpose for us, but only two of them were even capable of running 1.5 seconds off my rodeo horse. When it comes to barrel horses, you just can't fix slow. |
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Absolutely not! My big guy was a 3D horse on a good day and that's all. Now that he is 19, he is a solid 4D horse. But even when he was young, there is no way in hell he could have broken into the 2D. Sorry, but its just not possible for every horse. I think every horse is capable of being a barrel horse, but some just arent built to go fast. |
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Location: 31 lengths farms | Itsme - 2014-01-09 10:24 AM
Lucky_H - 2014-01-08 12:21 PM
Don't agree either ... one of the mares I ride now, she's honest & tries hard but she is 3D local/4D World.
In no place did I say all horses or even all sound horses...
Your'e right, you didn't but the title did... |
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Location: Washington | No. |
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| Itsme - 2014-01-08 12:24 PM
Lucky_H - 2014-01-08 12:21 PM
Don't agree either ... one of the mares I ride now, she's honest & tries hard but she is 3D local/4D World.
In no place did I say all horses or even all sound horses...
Oh yeah I did, in the title, but that was to get the views and responses.
I dont think they all can but I do think a high percentage can. |
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Location: South Georgia | I dont agree. |
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Location: Kentucky | Itsme - 2014-01-08 1:29 PM Itsme - 2014-01-08 12:24 PM Lucky_H - 2014-01-08 12:21 PM Don't agree either ... one of the mares I ride now, she's honest & tries hard but she is 3D local/4D World. In no place did I say all horses or even all sound horses... Oh yeah I did, in the title, but that was to get the views and responses. I dont think they all can but I do think a high percentage can.
What percentage? |
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| Murphy - 2014-01-08 12:32 PM
Itsme - 2014-01-08 1:29 PM Itsme - 2014-01-08 12:24 PM Lucky_H - 2014-01-08 12:21 PM Don't agree either ... one of the mares I ride now, she's honest & tries hard but she is 3D local/4D World. In no place did I say all horses or even all sound horses... Oh yeah I did, in the title, but that was to get the views and responses. I dont think they all can but I do think a high percentage can.
Well I did say most so over 50%. I believe its a lot higher than that with good training from the start and the correct jockey. |
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| For the record Im not voting anyone down or not happy because everyone doesn't agree with me. Im on here for learning and expressing different unbiased opinions... |
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Location: Muskogee, OK | No. Some horses just don't have the speed to do it. |
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Location: That part of Texas | I think if it was that easy, you'd see more people with 2D horses but that just isn't the case. I think most horses would fall into a 3D/4D range and the ones who rise above are more of a super athlete than most horses are. Some are just speed freaks who can handle short sprints better than others and turning is something they love. If all it took was the right rider and training, I know of many members on here who would be in the 2D but it also takes the right horse to get there. Most do not have that potential. |
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Location: Texas | If every horse had 2D potential, there would be no need for breeding programs designed to produce top athletes. After all, if it were just training and the jockey, every horse could do it.
That's like saying every healthy human should be competitive in a race against Usain Bolt. That is NOT going to happen.
Training and a good jockey will help a horse perform its best. But you can't train or ride a horse that is not athletic or one that doesn't have the speed and make it competitive with those horses that do have the speed. Doesn't make them a bad horse, there is just a reason breeding programs strive to breed athletic, fast horses for barrels.
Edited by aggiejudger 2014-01-08 1:06 PM
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Location: Texas | Have to respectfully disagree |
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