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| Needing help! Considering breeding my mare (great grandaughter to dash for cash) to a cartel horse who is the great grandson of dash for cash. Just wanting information from people who have had double dred dash for cash horses and how they turned out. In aspects of behavior, confirmation, health, etc. thanks! |
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Location: Oklahoma | Can never have too much DFC! |
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Location: Washington | I am seeing quite a few double bred DFC horses doing VERY well, seems to be a successful mix. |
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Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | It wouldn't scare me a bit. I bred this mare and she's the bomb. http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/miss+judge+n+me
http://www.youtube.com/edit?o=U&video_id=xKGlnw0hYAo |
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| I've been having really good luck with anything with a bunch of "Dash". I'd be most interested in just who the closest "Dashes" are though, and what they have done, rather than the original Dash for Cash. Yes, it's nice to know that he's in there, but it's so far back it's hard to call it Dash for Cash bred anymore. Grandget are still seen once and a while, but they're getting older too. Give me a Toast to Dash or a Royal Blue Chew Chew son on a Dash to Fame or Pure D Dash mare any day. |
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| I'm the odd one out- I've seen alot of soundness issues with too much DFC- and bleeding as well. Just me I guess.
eta: if you notice the stallion ads- lots of non-DFC studs are promoted just because they have no DFC and are good outcrosses for DFC mares.
Edited by trickster j 2014-01-23 9:00 AM
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Location: Oklahoma | trickster j - 2014-01-23 8:58 AM I'm the odd one out- I've seen alot of soundness issues with too much DFC- and bleeding as well. Just me I guess.
eta: if you notice the stallion ads- lots of non-DFC studs are promoted just because they have no DFC and are good outcrosses for DFC mares.
IMO the reason they are advertised as non-dfc and good outcrosses is because DFC blood is so prominent in our industry MOST of the horses DO go back to DFC. Which also is the reason I dont agree with you saying a lot of DFC horses have soundness issues and bleed -- how close up is the DFC blood in these horses? which DFC sons are they stemming from? There are sooooooooooooo many dfc horses out there ... that dont bleed and are sound so I dont think its fair to blame it on DFC when hes probably no closer than the great granddad to the ones youre talking about.... JMO :) |
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| Agree with RunninC, can't hardly have enough DFC. Exhibits A-F, all double bred DFC:
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/pyc+paint+your+wagon
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/first+moonflash
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/jet+black+patriot
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/ivory+james
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/handsome+jack+flash2 (Triple Bred DFC & '13 All American Winner)
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/one+dashing+eagle
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| Runnin < C > - 2014-01-23 8:10 AM trickster j - 2014-01-23 8:58 AM I'm the odd one out- I've seen alot of soundness issues with too much DFC- and bleeding as well. Just me I guess.
eta: if you notice the stallion ads- lots of non-DFC studs are promoted just because they have no DFC and are good outcrosses for DFC mares. IMO the reason they are advertised as non-dfc and good outcrosses is because DFC blood is so prominent in our industry MOST of the horses DO go back to DFC. Which also is the reason I dont agree with you saying a lot of DFC horses have soundness issues and bleed -- how close up is the DFC blood in these horses? which DFC sons are they stemming from? There are sooooooooooooo many dfc horses out there ... that dont bleed and are sound so I dont think its fair to blame it on DFC when hes probably no closer than the great granddad to the ones youre talking about.... JMO : )
eta: I didn't say that single bred DFC's had soundness issues- I said double bred DFC's seem to have more of them. I'm also referring to the double breds that have the DFC's up close- as in grandget, or great-grand get. Further back than that and it may become a non-issue, depending on what else is in there.
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Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | trickster j - 2014-01-23 6:58 AM I'm the odd one out- I've seen alot of soundness issues with too much DFC- and bleeding as well. Just me I guess.
eta: if you notice the stallion ads- lots of non-DFC studs are promoted just because they have no DFC and are good outcrosses for DFC mares.
Soundness and bleeding might (probably are) also be environmentally caused. I had a bleeder. She didn't have any DFC because she was born before DFC was. |
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Yes- they are very fast- no doubt about that. |
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| OregonBR - 2014-01-23 10:34 AM trickster j - 2014-01-23 6:58 AM I'm the odd one out- I've seen alot of soundness issues with too much DFC- and bleeding as well. Just me I guess.
eta: if you notice the stallion ads- lots of non-DFC studs are promoted just because they have no DFC and are good outcrosses for DFC mares. Soundness and bleeding might (probably are) also be environmentally caused. I had a bleeder. She didn't have any DFC because she was born before DFC was.
Actually- we can admit that bleeding has been in the equine world since the beginning of thier existence- just wasn't recognized til later- when all the double bred DFC's came around- lol, jk! :) |
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Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | trickster j - 2014-01-23 9:37 AM OregonBR - 2014-01-23 10:34 AM trickster j - 2014-01-23 6:58 AM I'm the odd one out- I've seen alot of soundness issues with too much DFC- and bleeding as well. Just me I guess.
eta: if you notice the stallion ads- lots of non-DFC studs are promoted just because they have no DFC and are good outcrosses for DFC mares. Soundness and bleeding might (probably are) also be environmentally caused. I had a bleeder. She didn't have any DFC because she was born before DFC was.
That's absolutely ridiculous. 
It was around long before DFC and WAS recognized. I was around the track in the 60's. We had bleeders then too and we knew it. The first bleeder that historians knew about was in the early colonial days. He was a TB.
Do you know how genetics works? DFC was sound. DFC was not a bleeder. When you double up on good genes like that, you get a better chance of a horse that is similar to the in/linebred horse because there is more genetic material like his.  |
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Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | trickster j - 2014-01-23 9:44 AM Shawna? Is that you?
Shawna trained her. I'm the breeder. |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | I bred a great granddaughter to a great grandson--I wouldn't even consider that close enough to be double bred, much less line bred and it was not a factor considered in my breeding decision. http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/rare+salsa+dancer
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Location: Arkansas | http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/credit+the+judge
Here is the pedigree on my double bred DFC. I have high hopes for her, she is just a 2 year old so we shall see.
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I just drooled looking at her pedigree! |
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Location: Kansas | http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/lawyer+cash
This is a 2 year old that sold to North Carolina. They love him and love his attitude. We have a yearling filly bred the same way. They are both nice, smart horses with lots of bone, athletic and fast. The Judge Cash foals are really nice and have certainly done well at the January futurities.
We also bred this mare to Famous Bugs. That filly is three and is also very athletic with lots of speed. I wouldn't call any of these double bred but both sire and dam have a line to Dash for Cash. |
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