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Location: I can see the end of the world from here! | I'm just wondering if this is something I missed or was hidden from me? This is NOT Cowboy Tradition in my family...anyone else?
http://fox13now.com/2014/01/23/cowboy-tradition-or-animal-cruelty-video-of-horse-roping-event-causes-controversy/
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Married to a Louie Lover
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| I can see it being used as a method of rounding up wild horses...not my preferred method...but I've never heard of it as an organized event. That is sad, very sad IMO. |
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| Looks cruel to me. I don't buy into the argument that you continue an event because of tradition. I also don't buy into the argument that you let cruelty continue because it opens the door for them to go after other events. |
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Location: Kansas | I don't find it right, but lots of ropers use donkeys to practice on because they are "fresh" and their hind legs kick out together which is apparently easier to rope.
I wouldn't ever compete in an event such as this, but that is my opinion |
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Location: SE Louisiana | "... been going on for hundreds of years.." We ain't HAD cowboys that long... I've never heard of horses being treated this way.. |
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Hungarian Midget Woman
Location: Midwest | I didn't like it
Horses aren't built for the way they were roping them IMO... roundups are one thing (as that is sometimes the only way), a competitive event is something different.
I don't know if I would call it cruelty without seeing the whole event, but why are they using horses? |
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Nicknameless
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Location: I can see the end of the world from here! | It's terrible that these guys are representing 'cowboys' when it's not true that this is a 'tradition'...unless I've been living under a rock. Just curious if this is just one family or an area that does this as I've never heard of it...and I come from a long line of cowboys!
eta: I consider it cruel.
Edited by musikmaker 2014-01-24 8:07 AM
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Not my cup of tea
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Location: North Dakota | HotbearLVR - 2014-01-24 8:01 AM Not my cup of tea
Me neither. I find it repulsive and no way consider that as Cowboy Tradition. |
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Location: Texas | This is awful. And frankly looks like some team ropers that can't afford cattle so they use the cheap horses the market is flooded with. We team/calf rope and have had to on occasion rope a horse for whatever reason. You have to be so careful roping a horse vs roping a steer or calf. This is akin to the horse tripping in Mexican rodeos. These are not cowboys. |
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  Independent Cuss
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Location: Dearing, GA | The only thing that bothers me is when the Doc mentioned that they cut off their air supply. The tripping, roping, that's all fine and dandy, but it's considered cruelty if you are cutting off air supply intentionally. That's the only beef I have with this activity. |
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| I agree: these are not cowboys. Horses can't be handled like cattle, which are obviously out of these goomer's price range. . . |
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| Never heard of it as an organized event. I've watched my dad rope a couple in a round pen when I was younger, but that was mainly just to catch them, not "team rope" them. |
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Pig-Bear Dog Lover
| Horses shouldn't be treated this way...the majority of those were probably kill horses.... but there's no need to do that.. I think its beyond stupid. |
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 I Want a "MAN"
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Location: MD | I personally wouldn't do it. .Do you believe in calf roping? They rope them by the neck, they get whip lash then pulled up by the flank and thrown to the ground but you can't rope a horse by its front legs? I'm just curious what you think? |
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Hungarian Midget Woman
Location: Midwest | Married2Rodeo - 2014-01-24 8:09 AM This is awful. And frankly looks like some team ropers that can't afford cattle so they use the cheap horses the market is flooded with. We team/calf rope and have had to on occasion rope a horse for whatever reason. You have to be so careful roping a horse vs roping a steer or calf. This is akin to the horse tripping in Mexican rodeos. These are not cowboys.
yes, I too have seen videos of horse tripping. They have those mexican rodeos in my area, though I have never been to one. Horse tripping just looks so terrible and this seems to have similar results.... horses have a higher center of gravity and narrower base than cattle... I don't rope but I could see how you need to be very careful. |
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Location: The Oklahoma plains. | They trip horses at the Mexican arena near our area. I have not seen it, didnt watch the video on here or whatever it is. I dont like it. |
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Hungarian Midget Woman
Location: Midwest | TurnLane - 2014-01-24 8:27 AM They trip horses at the Mexican arena near our area. I have not seen it, didnt watch the video on here or whatever it is. I dont like it.
the video is from a team roping event, but they are roping horses instead of cattle.
i was talking about videos I had seen previously. There was a horse for sale and a video linked to it was a horse tripping deal... the horse was a mexican rodeo horse (aka charro)... i was just cruising ads. and it was terrible!
It was mentioned because the aftermath is similar |
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Location: Texas | Not to steal the OP thread calf roping has rules that protect unnecessary roughness with the calves. People get fined for cracking their slack down their backs to pitch the calves Those suckers are literally worth their weight in gold and the stock contractors want them protected. They are not little 50lb baby's either. In a perfect world when you flank you roll them down your legs not body slam them like WWF. Yes when theres a ton of $$ on the line and when adrenaline gets going people can get a little to rough ( similar to a barrel race-- people get excited rip on faces and over use spurs and crops) that's why their are fines in place and you can bet your butt that the stock contractors will be on a fine if a calf is hurt or treated unfairly. And calves are not like foals. They are made of much tougher stuff. I used to feel the same way until I married a roper and I was actually around cattle a lot. ( I used to NEVER want to use a hot shot that didn't last long lol). I loved them and wanted to treat them like horses and you can't. They are to different. |
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Location: North Dakota | The horse they showed most of the time looked like a young colt???
I am not a fan. At all.
Why were they using horses and not cattle? Honestly, I think horse bodies are weaker than cattle bodies. Plus in this video, it seems like they were roped and held rather LONG. A team roping run lasts under 10 seconds typically. This seemed to last much, much longer. |
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