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| I have a 7 yr old hard keeper .. I had her on purina ultium when I first got her , she loved it but I didn't see enough results to keep her on it. I put her on Triple crown senior 2 months ago, it has put a good amount of weight on her, but she just does not like it.. I love the stuff but she doesn't . She will eat it , it has done wonders for her weight . I don't know if it's the texture of the feed or how soft it is being a senior feed. I tried her on purina senior before the TC & she was the same way about it. So my question is what high fat feed options do people recommend ? Id sure like to stick with a fixed formula if possible . I have access to triple crown , purina , nutrena , & adm. I need a feed she loves again that puts / keeps weight on her ! It took me 5 months to finally get her looking good again, & I still think she could use some more before she's perfect. Just as a side note I have had her teeth done, treated for ulcers .. I know her & I know she just isn't liking the TC senior unfortunately :( also she is a hotter horse.. But she wins alot for me so I just want her happy & eating something she loves :) any input would be great. thanks in advance ! |
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Location: Smack in the middle of WA! | I used purina amplify in the past on a thoroughbred gelding that I was having a hard time keeping weight on. It worked great for him! Currently though I am using renew gold on a mare that needs some weight. I have added forco to it and she also gets a few pounds of barley as well. This is a very hot mare and she is doing great on it! Holding her weight and not acting like an idiot! Lol! I've tried some of the other weight fain products and just didn't have great luck with them. I've never had a horse even attempt to eat the cool calories. They didn't like it at all! I'm hoping the addition of forco to her feed will help her better utilize what she is taking  |
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Location: God's country | I feed a 7% fat feed that our local co-op carries. I don't know where you are located, but I am in the south so it might be a regional thing. Called Structure/Tiz Whiz and it's a pellet. I also feed rice bran. I have a lot of hard keepers and like them to look slick. I think the rice bran helps with that. Good Luck |
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Location: New York | I would try triple crown complete. It's 12% fat 12% protein. There senior that your currently feeding is 10%fat 14%protein. But is it possible your horse has ulcers? Could be why she is finicky and not holding the weight. |
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| I might go to the complete .. Was just worried about the NSC % but she'd probably be fine . Treated for ulcers & no change .. She started this when I switched feeds . So I'm positive she just doesn't like something about it. I could try the rice bran too :) I hear alot of good about that ! Thanks for the advise guys ! Keep it coming :) |
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| Probiotics and rice bran. :)
Cool calories for the super skinny kids along with the above. :) |
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| Omegatin is a high fat additive, never not had one that would not,eat cool calories. There are a ton of things that will,fatten one up alfalfa cubes or southern states has a hay replacer alfala-locs or southing like that.
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| Any more actual feed suggestions ? If rather have a good feed to where I don't have to add all these supplements. She won't eat any of them in the TC senior , I know that! So I need a feed option to try to see if she likes it any better . I will give the TC complete a try I think.. Then if she still doesn't like that I may have to go back to ultium I guess.. *sigh* why can't my horses just be normal lol |
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Location: USA | Nutrena, ProForce is the BEST feed I have ever used!!! It has 14% protein and either 11 - 13% fat and like 15% fiber. One of our TB's is a SUPER hard keeper and we've tried everything, Rice Bran, Beet Blup, Cool Calories, you name we've fed it to try and put weight on him. We've also gotten his teeth floated and checked for ulcers but he just wasn't gaining no weight. So we started feeding him this and he LOVES it! It doesn't make him hyper even if you leave him in a stall for a couple days and he's also a hot horse but he's very calm and I don't have to lunge him before I ride cause he's not so high strung. With this feed he focus's his energy. And he gained weight from skin and bones to fat and he looks like a QH in a month! I was feeding him a scoop in morning and a half in the evenings tho.  |
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| What is the texture like if the nutrena pro force ?? Pellets ? |
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| Beet pulp, and Step 6, also try worming him with silver lining even if hes up to date it does miracles!
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  A Lady with Fight
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Location: NC | Where are you located?
Nutrena offers a feed that is a lot like TC Senior but it's only available in certain states and will probably have to be special ordered by your dealer. |
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Location: USA | It's got mostly pellets but I think it may have a little bit of beet plup in it as well. The texture tho is kinda like senior feed, ya know a little molasses maybe? But overall, its's a REALLY good feed. I've never had one like it and I feed it to all my horses and all of them look great! Around here it's like 19-20 bucks a bag :) |
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| Well darn .. I looked it up & it's not available in my state .. I'm in MO. |
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Location: USA | Well, you might want to see if your local feed store can try and order it for you. I live in NC and my local tack & Feed store orders it for me :) |
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| If your horse likes the high fat feed that is made from used French fry and fried catfish grease from restaurants ..... feed him all he can eat .... if you ever saw this crap in their grease traps ... you would apologize to your horse and never feed anything above 4% fat from natural plant sources ...
I have to grin when people feed this crap to their horses and then demand fat free foods when they go to a restaurant to eat ....
Look at your ingredients in your high priced feed you are feeding .. ... waste products and more waste products ... and then everyone wonders why old horse feels bad all the time ... lol ..
What do you buy for yourself to eat that has high fat content in it???
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Location: NC | BARRELHORSE USA - 2014-01-29 9:43 PM
If your horse likes the high fat feed that is made from used French fry and fried catfish grease from restaurants ..... feed him all he can eat .... if you ever saw this crap in their grease traps ... you would apologize to your horse and never feed anything above 4% fat from natural plant sources ...
I have to grin when people feed this crap to their horses and then demand fat free foods when they go to a restaurant to eat ....
Look at your ingredients in your high priced feed you are feeding .. ... waste products and more waste products ... and then everyone wonders why old horse feels bad all the time ... lol ..
What do you buy for yourself to eat that has high fat content in it???
Just curious ...
What the heck are you talking about?
Triple Crown uses rice bran, flax, and soy oil as fat sources.
Last I checked restaurants used peanut oil.
And performance horses need high fat diets. It is far more healthy to feed high fat, high fiber, than high starch. A WHOLE lot healthier.
You have no idea what you're talking about. Humans and horses are FAR from the same.
Edited by hlynn 2014-01-29 8:53 PM
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Location: USA | Not to be mean or rude, BARRELHORSEUSA, but horses and humans are very much different. We don't order high-fat content food because if we did it'd put a toll on our horses being over-weight and trust me I know I'm 190 pounds. And losing weight and I can tell a BIG difference in my riding I'm muc more balanced and centered over my horse than I am flopping everywhere when I was 230. My horse's back isn't sore and she's willing to go out riding anytime without being sore. People aren't suppose to have that much fat like our athlete of barrel horses need. They need so much because they are TRULY athletes. They work anywhere from 3-6 days a week an hour or more a day so yea, they need a little more protein and fat in their diet to keep them looking good and that "fat" in the feed builds not only builds fat where they need it but that soon turns into solid muscle to help them run barrels. |
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Location: Florida.. | BARRELHORSE USA - 2014-01-29 9:43 PM If your horse likes the high fat feed that is made from used French fry and fried catfish grease from restaurants ..... feed him all he can eat .... if you ever saw this crap in their grease traps ... you would apologize to your horse and never feed anything above 4% fat from natural plant sources ... I have to grin when people feed this crap to their horses and then demand fat free foods when they go to a restaurant to eat .... Look at your ingredients in your high priced feed you are feeding .. ... waste products and more waste products ... and then everyone wonders why old horse feels bad all the time ... lol .. What do you buy for yourself to eat that has high fat content in it??? Just curious ...
Maybe JUNK feed..
most higher Quality grains with fat added is not what you are insinuating.. you must feed cheap junk if you think it is..
http://training.ifas.ufl.edu/Equine2011/Equine11_Warren_FeedingFat/Warren%20Feeding%20Fat%20to%20Horses.pdf |
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A Lady with Fight
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Location: NC | Fat = energy
Carbs = energy
Carbs is short term energy. Fat is long term energy. This is why distance runners are thin. Their body fat is their fuel. And sprinters are muscled up like weight lifters.
Yes, barrel horses ARE sprinters. But not like you'd think. They do need SOME starch for that short burst of energy. But what do you do to condition them? Long trot, breeze, long trot some more. So you're burning fat. And that body fat needs replaced or else you're left with a thin poor looking horse.
High fat is healthy, especially for hard keepers and high performance athletes. |
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