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| *Trainer will charge $20 a ride (usually in but not limited to 30 day incriments) with a 5$ a day fee for care.
The 5$ a day covers feed, hay, a stall with shavings, grooming ect. for optimal care of each horse.
How would you feel as an owner/customer about a trainer implimenting this pricing method?
Edited by scwebster 2014-02-07 12:04 PM
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Location: Gainesville, TX | Depends on the trainer. I'm paying more than that a month for most of the training on my two year old, but its someone whos well regarded and very experienced. |
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| If i have a client in the barn that wants their horse ridden and does not want to pay the monthly fee, I charge $20 per ride.
If it is an outside horse that is coming in for a week or two its still $20 a ride with board on top of that. |
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Location: Missouri | JMO, but it feels a little like the trainer wants to nickle and dime me...
Grooming products??? I don't want to buy your brushes. Shavings in the stall? What's the other option? I feel like listing every expense like this is a bit of a turn off.
Again, JMO. I've only sent one off (to three different trainers) and I expected that he would receive everything listed in your example for the one inclusive fee that was charged.
I wouldn't mind a seperate training and boarding fee, depending on the facility, set-up, and trainer.
eta: I've paid more for 30 days, so I don't mean to sound cheap. Just that it feels awkward when everything is listed this way.
Edited by just4fun 2014-02-06 6:25 PM
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Location: North Dakota | Kind of an odd way to word things, but that works out to about $750 for 30 days. Seems reasonable for someone who does a good job. That's actually the same price I am sending my 3-year-old off for. |
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| It depends who your sending the horse to bit those charges are not bad. |
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Location: sunny california | i like it. it has a get what you pay for feel to it |
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| I ride outside horses and I think that is a good deal... if my customers knew what I spent on fly spray only they would be amazed.... |
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| Paying by the ride could end up being cheaper then per month. Say the weather is bad or some other circumstance comes up that doesn't allow the horse to get riden. If you are paying by the month it could take two months to get the horse to the point that you are wanting. However if you are paying by the ride you are only out the $5 for the days the horse didn't get riden. |
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Location: Deep South | I kind of like the idea of charging by the ride instead of the usual by the month. Most trainers charge a flat rate for 30 days, but that does not mean your horse will get 30 rides, as most ride 5-6 days a week. So if you end up paying the same for 30 rides as you would sending the horse off to someone else of equal quality for the 30 days, I would say you're getting more for your money. |
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Location: Somewhere between raising hell and Amazing Grace | Doesn't sound too bad to me for the right trainer. I have never sent a horse for training as I do all my own. But I always wondered about flat fees and how it's handled about how many times a horse is ridden. I like the idea of a boarding fee as a flat fee, then the training per rides. I would dislike paying a training fee per month to find out the horse couldn't be ridden for some reason (trainer was away, busy, injuried etc). |
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Location: Florida.. | its a steal.. 5 bucks a day to feed, hay, shavings and fly spray and care .. is cheap. |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | Sounds workable to me. Better than the screw job I got last year when I sent one off for 30 days riding, I called a couple times for updates, the trainer was gone a week over Christmas and again over New Years to see family. 60 days after we dropped the horse off he called and wanted to know how many days we wanted him there. We said 30 days riding, figured when he had 30 days riding he would let us know to pick him up. We got charged SIXTY days because the horse was there 60 days. I know dang well he didn't have more than 30 actual rides.
The guy I have riding 2 now charges $650 for 30 days riding/working. I expect he will be on them in no time, both are good minded. It's not right to charge an amount for 30 days or whatever when you are out of the state for 2 weeks.  |
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| wyoming barrel racer - 2014-02-06 4:37 PM
Sounds workable to me. Better than the screw job I got last year when I sent one off for 30 days riding, I called a couple times for updates, the trainer was gone a week over Christmas and again over New Years to see family. 60 days after we dropped the horse off he called and wanted to know how many days we wanted him there. We said 30 days riding, figured when he had 30 days riding he would let us know to pick him up. We got charged SIXTY days because the horse was there 60 days. I know dang well he didn't have more than 30 actual rides.
The guy I have riding 2 now charges $650 for 30 days riding/working. I expect he will be on them in no time, both are good minded. It's not right to charge an amount for 30 days or whatever when you are out of the state for 2 weeks.
I know of another trainer who has done this a lot to clients. Charged for a full month of training when they were maybe only there for half of it. My friend got screwed over even after I warned her of it. She had her horse there for 90 days and got charged for all of it. I said there's no way that the trainer rode your horse because they kept their FB updated as to their location and it sure wasn't at home riding my friend's horse! Not to mention the horse came back worse than when they sent it there, both body condition and riding! It's sad how few honest people are out there these days. There still are some, but you better do your homework to find them and they are hard to find. A good trainer is well worth the price they charge. |
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| 3 To Go - 2014-02-06 6:46 PM wyoming barrel racer - 2014-02-06 4:37 PM Sounds workable to me. Better than the screw job I got last year when I sent one off for 30 days riding, I called a couple times for updates, the trainer was gone a week over Christmas and again over New Years to see family. 60 days after we dropped the horse off he called and wanted to know how many days we wanted him there. We said 30 days riding, figured when he had 30 days riding he would let us know to pick him up. We got charged SIXTY days because the horse was there 60 days. I know dang well he didn't have more than 30 actual rides. The guy I have riding 2 now charges $650 for 30 days riding/working. I expect he will be on them in no time, both are good minded. It's not right to charge an amount for 30 days or whatever when you are out of the state for 2 weeks. I know of another trainer who has done this a lot to clients. Charged for a full month of training when they were maybe only there for half of it. My friend got screwed over even after I warned her of it. She had her horse there for 90 days and got charged for all of it. I said there's no way that the trainer rode your horse because they kept their FB updated as to their location and it sure wasn't at home riding my friend's horse! Not to mention the horse came back worse than when they sent it there, both body condition and riding! It's sad how few honest people are out there these days. There still are some, but you better do your homework to find them and they are hard to find. A good trainer is well worth the price they charge.
I've had the same thing happen with more than one horse.
My question is - who's going to police the trainer so he/she can't say they rode 20 times in a month when they only rode 2 times?
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Location: Oklahoma | Bibliafarm - 2014-02-06 6:28 PM its a steal.. 5 bucks a day to feed, hay, shavings and fly spray and care .. is cheap.
I agree!! I feel like we have fallen in with the best colt starter in the country and we pay $35/day.... You get what you pay for ... if your trainer is good, $750/month is good! |
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| lonely va barrelxr - 2014-02-06 4:49 PM
3 To Go - 2014-02-06 6:46 PM wyoming barrel racer - 2014-02-06 4:37 PM Sounds workable to me. Better than the screw job I got last year when I sent one off for 30 days riding, I called a couple times for updates, the trainer was gone a week over Christmas and again over New Years to see family. 60 days after we dropped the horse off he called and wanted to know how many days we wanted him there. We said 30 days riding, figured when he had 30 days riding he would let us know to pick him up. We got charged SIXTY days because the horse was there 60 days. I know dang well he didn't have more than 30 actual rides. The guy I have riding 2 now charges $650 for 30 days riding/working. I expect he will be on them in no time, both are good minded. It's not right to charge an amount for 30 days or whatever when you are out of the state for 2 weeks. I know of another trainer who has done this a lot to clients. Charged for a full month of training when they were maybe only there for half of it. My friend got screwed over even after I warned her of it. She had her horse there for 90 days and got charged for all of it. I said there's no way that the trainer rode your horse because they kept their FB updated as to their location and it sure wasn't at home riding my friend's horse! Not to mention the horse came back worse than when they sent it there, both body condition and riding! It's sad how few honest people are out there these days. There still are some, but you better do your homework to find them and they are hard to find. A good trainer is well worth the price they charge.
My question is - who's going to police the trainer so he/she can't say they rode 20 times in a month when they only rode 2 times?
Yes that is difficult. It makes it easier when they constantly update their Facebook status and the location feature is turned on though! You would also know it when you get on your horse and they ride like sh*t or look like someone forgot to feed a few mornings... |
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Location: Deep South | lonely va barrelxr - 2014-02-06 6:49 PM 3 To Go - 2014-02-06 6:46 PM wyoming barrel racer - 2014-02-06 4:37 PM Sounds workable to me. Better than the screw job I got last year when I sent one off for 30 days riding, I called a couple times for updates, the trainer was gone a week over Christmas and again over New Years to see family. 60 days after we dropped the horse off he called and wanted to know how many days we wanted him there. We said 30 days riding, figured when he had 30 days riding he would let us know to pick him up. We got charged SIXTY days because the horse was there 60 days. I know dang well he didn't have more than 30 actual rides. The guy I have riding 2 now charges $650 for 30 days riding/working. I expect he will be on them in no time, both are good minded. It's not right to charge an amount for 30 days or whatever when you are out of the state for 2 weeks. I know of another trainer who has done this a lot to clients. Charged for a full month of training when they were maybe only there for half of it. My friend got screwed over even after I warned her of it. She had her horse there for 90 days and got charged for all of it. I said there's no way that the trainer rode your horse because they kept their FB updated as to their location and it sure wasn't at home riding my friend's horse! Not to mention the horse came back worse than when they sent it there, both body condition and riding! It's sad how few honest people are out there these days. There still are some, but you better do your homework to find them and they are hard to find. A good trainer is well worth the price they charge.
My question is - who's going to police the trainer so he/she can't say they rode 20 times in a month when they only rode 2 times?
No one has to, trainers make a living by word of mouth, recommendations. Screwing enough people will run themselves out of business. |
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Location: Smack in the middle of WA! | I pay the guy that starts my colts per ride. I provide their feed and takes care of them for however long they need to stay with him. Last colt he had only needed about 10 rides until I felt comfortable bringing him home. Luckily he's great with young horses and a great friend and lives within a mile from me! I would rather pay by the ride as I then know how much riding my horse is actually getting! I have taken in a few horses my self for tune ups and always ride them the full 30 days for one price. If I need more than the thirty days to get it done, which it should as I feel that days off for the horse are important and I don't want them to dread being ridden or if weather is not good or due to my own personal reasons, I cover the cost of feed. I hate paying for something I'm not actually getting! |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | BamaCanChaser - 2014-02-06 5:55 PM lonely va barrelxr - 2014-02-06 6:49 PM 3 To Go - 2014-02-06 6:46 PM wyoming barrel racer - 2014-02-06 4:37 PM Sounds workable to me. Better than the screw job I got last year when I sent one off for 30 days riding, I called a couple times for updates, the trainer was gone a week over Christmas and again over New Years to see family. 60 days after we dropped the horse off he called and wanted to know how many days we wanted him there. We said 30 days riding, figured when he had 30 days riding he would let us know to pick him up. We got charged SIXTY days because the horse was there 60 days. I know dang well he didn't have more than 30 actual rides. The guy I have riding 2 now charges $650 for 30 days riding/working. I expect he will be on them in no time, both are good minded. It's not right to charge an amount for 30 days or whatever when you are out of the state for 2 weeks. I know of another trainer who has done this a lot to clients. Charged for a full month of training when they were maybe only there for half of it. My friend got screwed over even after I warned her of it. She had her horse there for 90 days and got charged for all of it. I said there's no way that the trainer rode your horse because they kept their FB updated as to their location and it sure wasn't at home riding my friend's horse! Not to mention the horse came back worse than when they sent it there, both body condition and riding! It's sad how few honest people are out there these days. There still are some, but you better do your homework to find them and they are hard to find. A good trainer is well worth the price they charge.
My question is - who's going to police the trainer so he/she can't say they rode 20 times in a month when they only rode 2 times?
No one has to, trainers make a living by word of mouth, recommendations. Screwing enough people will run themselves out of business.
Well in this case, when I called and asked how the horse was. He was like, he's doing ok this and that. I'll be gone next week out of state and again during New years. So I knew he was not there at least 14 days of the 60 and no one rides every day otherwise. Things come up etc. |
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