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    Location: Somewhere around here | My gelding isn't a known kicker but when he is around unknown horses he pins his ears back and sometimes tries to lunge at them, especially riding in a small arena warming up. He never really tries to bite them but just scare them off away from him. Should I tie a red ribbon on his tail just so people know to stay away? |
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    Location: EDGE OF INSANITY | i would. but no worries, some people wont pay attention to it. i had a mare that would kick-tried the ribbon-didn't work. tried writing on my back numbers with HUGE red marker "i kick" didn't work, tried getting the paint that you can paint on horses with and wrote across her rear end "I KICK" didn't work lol. people actually got mad at me if she kicked at their horse (when they clearly ran up her butt but ok, sorry about that)
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        Location: Alberta | I agree most people don't pay attention, which is what Ive learned since I started barrel racing.....some don't even take consideration when their horses have issues....growing up in 4-H ribbon on a tail meant stay back, but we also learned to keep horse length distance when in an arena  |
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| cecollins0811 - 2014-02-09 3:17 PM
My gelding isn't a known kicker but when he is around unknown horses he pins his ears back and sometimes tries to lunge at them, especially riding in a small arena warming up. He never really tries to bite them but just scare them off away from him. Should I tie a red ribbon on his tail just so people know to stay away?
I always bring something to tie in my mares tail just in case and its not because she is a kicker but at a whopping 14.2h ppl seem to think running their horse up our ass when we are warming up or trying to run us over is no problem so there are times I have tied a ribbon in her tail so people respect our space. Thankfully its not always like that but its happened enough times! And some people will still be right on top of you. |
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| Barrel racers have,the worst manners when riding in a warm up area or open arena. I not saying everyone but some people. I could write a book. |
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      Location: WA | If he tries to bite, then the ribbon would go in his forelock. Tail is for kicking. But you could put it in both and hope that people get the message. I usually have good luck at races with a red ribbon, but hell, if it is there and you still run up on me, well, sorry for your choice dude. I also avoid crowded warm up areas like the plague. I can't accomplish anything in tem and it just makes my horse mad having people brush my leg and her hip when they breeze by us. |
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  Location: Central Montana | One of mine is the same, she will pin her ears but hasn't actually kicked at anyone yet. You are nicer than I am. I'm of the mind if people want to get that close they are asking to get kicked and probably deserve it. I give horses their personal space and I expect the same of the people riding around my horse.
Wanted to add the same horse will flaten her ears at anyone coming into her stall when we have to stall on the road too. She'll do it to me and shake her head but will just stand and let me feed her or clean her pen or groom her.
Edited by GoinJettin 2014-02-09 11:34 PM
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       Location: East Tennessee but who knows?! | Β From a liability standpoint, it would be good to use a ribbon. At least they were warned. People don't do a good job of reading body language on horses anyhow. And not everyone comes to the ring as automatic experts in ring ettiquette. There are a lot of novices in the ring and its our job as more experienced riders to help them and teach them. We were helped along the way when we were starting out too. I do think if I have one that kicks or charges, I also have a responsibility to keep others safe by keeping distance intentionally and avoiding others. I also see it as something that I need to work on with my horse. |
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    Location: MD | Just curious what do you do when your horse does that?? |
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     Location: NOT at Wal Mart | CE's wrapn3 - 2014-02-10 5:04 AM Just curious what do you do when your horse does that??
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| I think if you painted your horse red, people would still ride up on your horse! Quite a few, not all riders have no clue or really don't care unless your horse kicks them. That's when you hear "your horse kicked me" my response is um that's what a red ribbon means duhh |
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | You need to put a ribbon in her tail, so at least the ones that know about it can be warned,even if some dont know about its ok let them asked, we all learn something new everyday. And I know some people dont have the best manners in a warm up area but I would be worried about your horse hurting a little kid so you do need to warn others. I hope that you get after your horse for this behavior, lunging or kicking will get somebody hurt. Its your responsible to let others know how your horse acts.
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    Location: Somewhere around here | justcruzin - 2014-02-10 7:44 AM
CE's wrapn3 - 2014-02-10 5:04 AM Β Just curious what do you do when your horse does that??
Β I'm wondering too.
When he pins his ears back I give him a little nudge on the reins but I don't want to really bump him. It's not his fault that horses are super close to him and he's a little grumpy. But when he went after another horse I reined him back in and gave him a little smack on his neck. He hasn't tried it since but we're going to a race next weekend and it might happen again.
I'm not mad or blaming any of these people in the arena, we all know how crowded small indoor arenas can get and everyone wants to warm their horse up in a nice warm place than the cold outside, but I figured it would give people at least a warning.
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    Location: MD | cecollins0811 - 2014-02-10 8:45 AM justcruzin - 2014-02-10 7:44 AM CE's wrapn3 - 2014-02-10 5:04 AM Just curious what do you do when your horse does that?? I'm wondering too. When he pins his ears back I give him a little nudge on the reins but I don't want to really bump him. It's not his fault that horses are super close to him and he's a little grumpy. But when he went after another horse I reined him back in and gave him a little smack on his neck. He hasn't tried it since but we're going to a race next weekend and it might happen again. I'm not mad or blaming any of these people in the arena, we all know how crowded small indoor arenas can get and everyone wants to warm their horse up in a nice warm place than the cold outside, but I figured it would give people at least a warning. It is though.. I know you didn't ask for advice and I'm sorry but if my horse did that I would do more than a little.
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       Location: East Tennessee but who knows?! | Β I'll spank and get on to them with my voice and legs. Maybe even put their feet to work. Thats not behavior I tolerate, doesn't matter if other horses are too close or not. If they can't let another horse get real close without kicking and carrying on, then that's something I need to work on and be mindful of for other people's safety. Its no different than expecting your horse to mind when you're ponying a friend's horse or a colt that doesn't follow too well. |
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | CE's wrapn3 - 2014-02-10 8:53 AM cecollins0811 - 2014-02-10 8:45 AM justcruzin - 2014-02-10 7:44 AM CE's wrapn3 - 2014-02-10 5:04 AM Just curious what do you do when your horse does that?? I'm wondering too. When he pins his ears back I give him a little nudge on the reins but I don't want to really bump him. It's not his fault that horses are super close to him and he's a little grumpy. But when he went after another horse I reined him back in and gave him a little smack on his neck. He hasn't tried it since but we're going to a race next weekend and it might happen again. I'm not mad or blaming any of these people in the arena, we all know how crowded small indoor arenas can get and everyone wants to warm their horse up in a nice warm place than the cold outside, but I figured it would give people at least a warning. It is though.. I know you didn't ask for advice and I'm sorry but if my horse did that I would do a little more than a little. Ditto If my horses acted like that there would be no little to anything, its going to be something they will remember.
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     Location: NOT at Wal Mart | CE's wrapn3 - 2014-02-10 6:53 AM cecollins0811 - 2014-02-10 8:45 AM justcruzin - 2014-02-10 7:44 AM CE's wrapn3 - 2014-02-10 5:04 AM Just curious what do you do when your horse does that?? I'm wondering too. When he pins his ears back I give him a little nudge on the reins but I don't want to really bump him. It's not his fault that horses are super close to him and he's a little grumpy. But when he went after another horse I reined him back in and gave him a little smack on his neck. He hasn't tried it since but we're going to a race next weekend and it might happen again. I'm not mad or blaming any of these people in the arena, we all know how crowded small indoor arenas can get and everyone wants to warm their horse up in a nice warm place than the cold outside, but I figured it would give people at least a warning. It is though.. I know you didn't ask for advice and I'm sorry but if my horse did that I would do more than a little.
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   Location: Great NW | CE's wrapn3 - 2014-02-10 6:53 AM cecollins0811 - 2014-02-10 8:45 AM justcruzin - 2014-02-10 7:44 AM CE's wrapn3 - 2014-02-10 5:04 AM Just curious what do you do when your horse does that?? I'm wondering too. When he pins his ears back I give him a little nudge on the reins but I don't want to really bump him. It's not his fault that horses are super close to him and he's a little grumpy. But when he went after another horse I reined him back in and gave him a little smack on his neck. He hasn't tried it since but we're going to a race next weekend and it might happen again. I'm not mad or blaming any of these people in the arena, we all know how crowded small indoor arenas can get and everyone wants to warm their horse up in a nice warm place than the cold outside, but I figured it would give people at least a warning. It is though.. I know you didn't ask for advice and I'm sorry but if my horse did that I would do more than a little.
I agree a little smack on the neck is like swatting a fly. He needs repremanded - he needs to know that when you are in the saddle he is to have manners and behave. I have had several Alpha horses and with time they all learned their boundries. If I did not react then they better not either. He needs to learn his place in your herd. |
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| I agree others may not know what the red ribbon means but at least you are doing what you can to be responsible. We had a kicker, couldn't find our ribbon so asked in the office if they had anything I could use. The lady in line behind me excitedly said I didn't know a ribbon would make them stop kicking, does it have to be red? :). She was a little embarrassed when I explained the purpose of the ribbon. |
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