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Location: Oregon | I feel a little frustrated but at the same time I always go and look after the mare. I have been there to help through abcesses, 2 colics and take all my own supplies, including Banamine. Not once have they offered to repay my costs. They are both friends but don't know how to make them understand that they need to have a vet see that mare occasionally. I am their only vet care for her. Just venting a bit because I have tried to drop subtle hints. Apparently they haven't worked.
She is nasty nasty when it comes to anyone handling her and I have even had the owner mad at me when I disciplined her for trying to kick me then run me over. She didn't suceed. This was over having her feet done by my shoer. I have told them to work with her...nothing. Anyway, only place I can vent because I am friends with the wife on facebook and she is a good friend but she just brushes off what I tell her also..then as soon as something is wrong. RING RING!
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Location: PA | if I were you at this point id refuse to help them anymore. I feel bad for the animal but at what expense do you keep spending your own $$$ treating an animal that isnt yours?? Obviously they have found a sucker in you and will continue to use your generosity to their benefit.
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| I agree, you dont need the added stress of taking care of someone elses horse. I'm sure most of us are animal lovers and I can understand that it is hard to sit back and watch an owner simply not care. However you are being taking advantage of. While i'm sure your neighbors wife is your friend, she and her husband are probably enjoying the benefits of not paying a vet bill and always having you on call. Not to mention the additional money they are saving by you supplying your own medicines. I don't know your neighbors well but I do have people in my own life that sound similar to your neighbors and these people tend to take/want but never give/help. I guess everyone knows someone like that, but I have learn that altough it is hard you need to stop being their door mat. Still be nice and friendly and even halp every once in a while but not be as available when thwy want to "use you" and maybe next time thay ask you for help with their horse you go over with your vets number and say something like "this looks bad I think we need to call a vet if you want your horse to be ok" and offer to call your vet and kind of push it on them to be responsible. Honestly there is no really easy way out if the situation but they need to be more responsible and you need to be able to get out from under their thumb. Good Luck!!  |
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Location: The end of the Earth, SE AR | Did you know that by treating someone else's horses with prescription drugs, you can be accused of practicing veterinary medicine without a license?
Happened to my husband when he tried to help an aquaintance with a colicing horse -they guy c0uld not afford the fee that a new vet in the area was charged for emergency farm calls and my husband couldn't stand to see the horse suffer. Later that month the vet had to come out to pull coggins, the guy told the vet what my husband did and the veterinarian went ballistic. The vet now refuses to treat any of our animals because of what he says was my husband's "illegal activities". He went so far as to calling other vets to find out who sold him the banamine.
So simply tell this neighbor that you cannot treat her horse because its against the law. |
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Location: Midwest | rollingrfarm - 2014-02-12 6:35 AM
Did you know that by treating someone else's horses with prescription drugs, you can be accused of practicing veterinary medicine without a license?
 Happened to my husband when he tried to help an aquaintance with a colicing horse -they guy c0uld not afford the fee that a new vet in the area was  charged for emergency farm calls and my husband couldn't stand to see the horse suffer.  Later that month the vet had to come out to pull coggins, the guy told the vet what my husband did and the veterinarian went ballistic.  The vet now refuses to treat any of our animals because of what he says was my husband's "illegal activities".  He went so far as to calling other vets to find out who sold him the banamine.Â
So simply tell this neighbor that you cannot treat her horse because its against the law.
Wow, that vet sounds like a real horse's a$$ |
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Location: Kansas | barrelracr131 - 2014-02-12 7:16 AM
rollingrfarm - 2014-02-12 6:35 AM
Did you know that by treating someone else's horses with prescription drugs, you can be accused of practicing veterinary medicine without a license?
 Happened to my husband when he tried to help an aquaintance with a colicing horse -they guy c0uld not afford the fee that a new vet in the area was  charged for emergency farm calls and my husband couldn't stand to see the horse suffer.  Later that month the vet had to come out to pull coggins, the guy told the vet what my husband did and the veterinarian went ballistic.  The vet now refuses to treat any of our animals because of what he says was my husband's "illegal activities".  He went so far as to calling other vets to find out who sold him the banamine.Â
So simply tell this neighbor that you cannot treat her horse because its against the law.
Wow, that vet sounds like a real horse's a$$
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| rollingrfarm - 2014-02-12 7:35 AM
Did you know that by treating someone else's horses with prescription drugs, you can be accused of practicing veterinary medicine without a license?
 Happened to my husband when he tried to help an aquaintance with a colicing horse -they guy c0uld not afford the fee that a new vet in the area was  charged for emergency farm calls and my husband couldn't stand to see the horse suffer.  Later that month the vet had to come out to pull coggins, the guy told the vet what my husband did and the veterinarian went ballistic.  The vet now refuses to treat any of our animals because of what he says was my husband's "illegal activities".  He went so far as to calling other vets to find out who sold him the banamine.Â
So simply tell this neighbor that you cannot treat her horse because its against the law.
I was just going to say this.
Doctoring a wound or something is fine... but when you are administering drugs you could get yourself into a whole lot of trouble.
I have a friend who is always calling me to do the same for her... It makes me a little uncomfortable the amount of times she needs banamine for colic.
I started telling her that the only way i was going to give it to her, is if she already had her vet on the phone and he can't get there quick enough...
I think she must have found someone else to call for it now. |
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| PaintedPrincess - 2014-02-12 7:49 AM rollingrfarm - 2014-02-12 7:35 AM Did you know that by treating someone else's horses with prescription drugs, you can be accused of practicing veterinary medicine without a license?
Happened to my husband when he tried to help an aquaintance with a colicing horse -they guy c0uld not afford the fee that a new vet in the area was charged for emergency farm calls and my husband couldn't stand to see the horse suffer. Later that month the vet had to come out to pull coggins, the guy told the vet what my husband did and the veterinarian went ballistic. The vet now refuses to treat any of our animals because of what he says was my husband's "illegal activities". He went so far as to calling other vets to find out who sold him the banamine.
So simply tell this neighbor that you cannot treat her horse because its against the law. I was just going to say this. Doctoring a wound or something is fine... but when you are administering drugs you could get yourself into a whole lot of trouble. I have a friend who is always calling me to do the same for her... It makes me a little uncomfortable the amount of times she needs banamine for colic. I started telling her that the only way i was going to give it to her, is if she already had her vet on the phone and he can't get there quick enough... I think she must have found someone else to call for it now.
Yes you can, I have a friend who was at an AQHA show, heard a lady screaming for help, had called a local vet who was 20 minutes away. Friend went to help, horse had somehow got foot caught in top rails of stall and was freaking out. Owner was screaming for drugs to calm the horse, friend had some and gave the horse a shot to calm him- saved the horses life. Vet was going to go after her big time but there was such a protest she dropped the charges. |
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I Really Love Jeans
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Location: North Dakota | One word for the neighbor- MOOCHER!!!!! I have a neighbor that came and introduced herself, but it didn't take me long to catch on that she only wanted a baby-sitter for her son!!!! He would be at my door EVERYDAY and by chance she would call and say she was running to the grocery store could he stay longer etc.... I cut her off after a month of her kid being here constantly!!! She stopped speaking to me when I stopped letting him come over!! Your neighbors may be friendly but I would't help them anymore they are taking advantage of your kindness!!!
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| rodeomom3 - 2014-02-12 8:58 AM
PaintedPrincess - 2014-02-12 7:49 AM rollingrfarm - 2014-02-12 7:35 AM Did you know that by treating someone else's horses with prescription drugs, you can be accused of practicing veterinary medicine without a license?
 Happened to my husband when he tried to help an aquaintance with a colicing horse -they guy c0uld not afford the fee that a new vet in the area was  charged for emergency farm calls and my husband couldn't stand to see the horse suffer.  Later that month the vet had to come out to pull coggins, the guy told the vet what my husband did and the veterinarian went ballistic.  The vet now refuses to treat any of our animals because of what he says was my husband's "illegal activities".  He went so far as to calling other vets to find out who sold him the banamine.Â
So simply tell this neighbor that you cannot treat her horse because its against the law. I was just going to say this. Doctoring a wound or something is fine... but when you are administering drugs you could get yourself into a whole lot of trouble. I have a friend who is always calling me to do the same for her... It makes me a little uncomfortable the amount of times she needs banamine for colic. I started telling her that the only way i was going to give it to her, is if she already had her vet on the phone and he can't get there quick enough... I think she must have found someone else to call for it now.
unfortunately in a case like its hard to know what it right, i would have done what your friend had did. You've got to do whats best for the horse.
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Location: Carpenter, WY | We have a friend and a neighbor who is a vet tech and have called on her more than once to help out. It takes our vet almost a hr to get out if there is a problem and she is very good at keeping things under some kind of control until the vet gets there. She and her husband were both there the night Slim colicked and we eventually lost him. During all the panic and chaos she had Dan hook up the trailer in case we had to take him to CSU, which we did once the vet finally got there and told us to load him up. I've see her get a shot of Banamine in while walking a colicky horse and I trust her judgement. When you're in crisis mode trying to deal with a situation it is really nice to have someone point you the right direction and I can't thank her enough.
If you don't want to help this lady out just tell her you are unavailable and she needs to get her vet out.
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Location: The Lone Star State | People can only take advantage of you if you LET them. So either continue to help and do not complain or dont help them and encourage them to go to the vet. Simple solution. |
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Location: IA | I would talk to them about it. Ask them to replenish your supplies.
As for administering medications, when there is an emergency, and the vet is 30 or more minutes away, I wouldn't question it. As long as the horses owner is ok with it.
We have a small boarding facility. We keep banamine on hand. However, since we've never done IV shots, we would administer it orally. With the owners permission. Knock on wood, we've never had to use it. |
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Location: Tumbleweed Capital of the World | Ticktock - 2014-02-12 8:44 AM People can only take advantage of you if you LET them. So either continue to help and do not complain or dont help them and encourage them to go to the vet. Simple solution.
I agree, to a point. People will always take advantage of you when they can. Putting a stop to it is a lot harder when there's a child or an animal that needs your help. In this case it's the horse who's suffering. I personally can't let an animal suffer when/if I can help them. I got stuck in the same situaion, helping a friend's horse when he got a really bad injury. The horse fully recovered, thankfully, and I never got my supplies back, even when I confronted them and asked them to replace everything. I don't help them anymore, with anything, but I helped that horse when he needed me, and I will always feel good about that. |
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Location: Washington | Next time she rings, give her the phone number of a good vet.
Good friends do not take advantage of their friends like this gal is doing to you. |
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Location: southeast Texas | Think about if you are "helping" this horse, it goes south while you are administering the drug. Horse dies.
They can sue you.
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Sounds like a bunch of users, I agree the next time they call I would give them my Vets phone number, you pay a Vet so why cant they? And yes if you are treating their horse with your drugs that you bought from your Vet and something go's wrong they can sue you. I have helped my neighbors out a many a times but will not give their animals any shots of anything. I have my own drugs for my horses only.
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Location: The Oklahoma plains. | roxieannie - 2014-02-12 10:21 AM Think about if you are "helping" this horse, it goes south while you are administering the drug. Horse dies.
They can sue you.
I have heard tale of this and the vets pursuing you like mentioned above as well. |
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Location: At the race track with Ah Dee Ohs | Our neighbor came by over the weekend wanting to know if we could give her colicing horse a shot of banamine IV. I politely declined for this very reason. |
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I Need a Xanax!
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| I've had this happen to me in the past too. "Friend" was a total MOOCH! I dropped hints along the way several times and even though I knew she KNEW what I was saying she still continued to call me. In my case the medicine was only costing me about $4 and she always offered to pay me for the medicine but the point was that I'm NOT a vet and she knew the same trip to the vet would cost her $45 so she came to me and was always bragging about how much better I was than the vet(that was part of her technique to get what she wanted). I didn't feel comfortable continuously treating her dog and felt that she was putting her dog in danger by MOOCHING off me so I had to get pretty ugly with her about it and tell her I could NOT get the medicine anymore even though she fired back insisting that I could. She called at least 2 or 3 times after that and after telling her no every time she quit calling and I haven't heard from my friend(the mooch) ever again! Don't let the mooch do that to you...just because you can help on occasion does not mean that you should. The first few times I helped my friend it was because I wanted to but after that I knew she was just using me. I love to help other people with their animals but someone using you to avoid vet bills is just wrong and they shouldnt have the animal if they can't afford vet care for it. You have to pay your vet and she should too! |
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