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 Hog Tie My Mojo
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Location: Opelousas, LA | What happens to kids who fight at your childs school? Are the police called?
Just wondering because my son came home today with the side of his jaw red and a little puffy. He said two sixth graders, my son is in fourth grade, jumped on him and started hitting him. My son tried to fight back until a teacher (who saw the whole thing) broke it up. One of the boys ran off and the other was made to sit out at recess, my son did not get in trouble because the teacher saw him get jumped even though he normally would because he fought back.
I am thinking something a bit harsher should be done to the kids who jumped my son. This has been an ongoing problem this year after a low performing school was integrated with my sons school. Multiple visits with the principals have done no good, the staff doesn't appear to be able to control some of the kids.
Today two girls got into a fight and one of them hit a teacher that tried to break it up, again no police were called.
We had already planned on sending him to a private school next year but I am thinking of withdrawing him and homeschooling the rest of this year.
Edited by Barnmom 2014-02-17 7:08 PM
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| My school has a 0 tolerance policy on fighting, as soon as there is a fight the police are called and you will get arrested whether you started it or not! |
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Hog Tie My Mojo
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Location: Opelousas, LA | _lognosh_ - 2014-02-17 7:03 PM My school has a 0 tolerance policy on fighting, as soon as there is a fight the police are called and you will get arrested whether you started it or not!
Thats about what I am used to, not sure why the police are NEVER called but there are multiple fights a day.
My husband was a coach and athletic director in Texas so we are not unfamiliar with how a school should deal with these issues. This school was really good the last two years but they had about 150 new kids come in from the other school that was shut down and it has gone to hell this year.
My husband wants me to file a police report, not sure what good that will do. |
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| Our school is no tolerance, all get in trouble, no matter who started it.
That being said, I wonder if your school doesn't want attention because they are housing the kids from the other school. I wonder if they are trying to look good and try to look like they are making things work.
I'm guessing the other school was rough and had bad stats, part of the reason of closure. Everyone wants it to be hunkey-dory and not look bad. Sucks for your kid and the others having to deal with these rough kids.
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| We have never called the police at our school. When handling fights it is a policy for liability reasons that information regarding any punishment for other kids, other than your own cannot be disclosed. Typically the offenders are suspended. If they are repeat offenders they would likely go to our alternative school.
However if you are concerned contact the school and state that you would like to press charges. If this is a continuous issue you give an inch and the kids will take a mile. I would not be afraid to check into pressing charges since your kiddo was jumped. Hope he is okay. |
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Location: NW Arkansas | Call the school and ask for a written report of what happened. Then I'd call the police and press charges. Does the school have an SRO assigned to them (School Resource Officer)? The officer would be the person you'd want to talk to, otherwise get the report and call the police. I'm a school teacher and there is no way I'd let a student go home after being assaulted without an administor calling his parents and explaining what happened!
Edited to add: I teach 6th and 7th grade and we have an SRO assigned to our school-- we frequently have him step in and have meetings with kids and parents. He occasionally takes one off to JDC if parents press charges.
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Hog Tie My Mojo
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Location: Opelousas, LA | Yes, the other school was right next to the government housing. Pretty much all the parents who cared enough to get thier kids out of there had already left.
I just don't get why they won't call the cops. We have police directing traffic in front of the school twice a day, I'm sure they could make time for a visit or two to the school.
I can't get him in a private school til next year but I don't remotely feel prepared to homeschool him. |
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| Our school always tries to keep issues from going to our SRO, they want to be in control. If it is in the SROS hands they have no say.
I would make them accountable. Stand firm, press charges. If they heehaw around you, set up a time to come to the school and meet with them and the SRO.
As far as homeschooling, I would recommend trying to finish out the year and getting him to private school for the next year, only because you mention how you don't feel ready.
I have a few students that were homeschooled only to be very behind once back in school. I have an 8th grader who I got in the 6th grade who could not read. |
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| We have a 3 hit rule at our high school (big difference between grade school fights and the high school fights.) We had one kid who's head was bashed into the wall. Whole hallway was blocked off while they got his blood off the walls and ceiling. The kid who started it was arrested, but the other kid wasn't in trouble because the video showed he only hit back for self defense and it was kinda those hits that he was almost unconscious so they weren't any good anyways.
If someone else gangs up on you and you try to get away from them, but they get you cornered or something, after 3 hits it is considered assault and you are allowed to hit back in a self defense way (blocking face with one arm, randomly swinging with other kind of deal).
I think those kids that jumped your son just need taken to the principle's office and some brains wooped into them. Might just be me though. |
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Location: Opelousas, LA | Arkiecanchaser - 2014-02-17 7:27 PM Call the school and ask for a written report of what happened. Then I'd call the police and press charges. Does the school have an SRO assigned to them (School Resource Officer)? The officer would be the person you'd want to talk to, otherwise get the report and call the police. I'm a school teacher and there is no way I'd let a student go home after being assaulted without an administor calling his parents and explaining what happened!
Edited to add: I teach 6th and 7th grade and we have an SRO assigned to our school-- we frequently have him step in and have meetings with kids and parents. He occasionally takes one off to JDC if parents press charges.
I will check on that tomorrow although I am pretty sure it never went beyond the one kid sitting against the wall for the duration of recess. I am not aware of an administrator even being involved today.
My son is big for his age ( 10 years old and wears a size 10 mens shoe) and he is red headed. He has always looked out for the smaller kids in his class and that seems to make him a target. Not sure how safe he is there this year. |
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Location: Opelousas, LA | magic gunsmoke - 2014-02-17 7:41 PM Our school always tries to keep issues from going to our SRO, they want to be in control. If it is in the SROS hands they have no say. I would make them accountable. Stand firm, press charges. If they heehaw around you, set up a time to come to the school and meet with them and the SRO. As far as homeschooling, I would recommend trying to finish out the year and getting him to private school for the next year, only because you mention how you don't feel ready. I have a few students that were homeschooled only to be very behind once back in school. I have an 8th grader who I got in the 6th grade who could not read.
Thats what worries me, especially knowing he will already be playing catch up moving to a better school.
I do know the ambulance has been called to the school twice this year, was told it was due to playground injuries, not so sure I believe them now. |
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| _lognosh_ - 2014-02-17 7:03 PM
My school has a 0 tolerance policy on fighting, as soon as there is a fight the police are called and you will get arrested whether you started it or not!
Sounds like a great policy... |
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Location: Great NW | If it were my child, I would file a police report and press charges. I would take them out and home school them for their safety. Really too bad when kids do not respect people or laws. so sad when those that abide have to pay for those that do not. Glad he is ok from this attack. |
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Location: Kentucky | _lognosh_ - 2014-02-17 8:03 PM My school has a 0 tolerance policy on fighting, as soon as there is a fight the police are called and you will get arrested whether you started it or not!
How do they arrest a child that got jumped and didn't start the fight? That is grouping that kid in with these bullies. |
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| I want to know where are the kids is parents in all this! Have you contacted them and told them what is going on. |
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| I dont have kids yet (due in April), but I think if it were my kid I would sign him up for Judo (almost 100% self defence) and keep him in school, but be the pain-in-the-butt parent who when one little thing goes wrong I would demand higher punishment than a little slap on the wrist. My husband got ganged up on a lot when he was in school until about grade 9 when he was bigger and stronger than all the town kids... He is already worried about sending our kid to school so I think based on that alone we will have our son in some sort of self defense classes from a young age. |
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| Murphy - 2014-02-18 12:35 PM
_lognosh_ - 2014-02-17 8:03 PM My school has a 0 tolerance policy on fighting, as soon as there is a fight the police are called and you will get arrested whether you started it or not!
How do they arrest a child that got jumped and didn't start the fight? That is grouping that kid in with these bullies.
That's what I was thinking! That's a retarded policy, no way will someone arrest my child if they didn't start it and nor will they if they defended themselves. |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | Barnmom - 2014-02-17 7:49 PM magic gunsmoke - 2014-02-17 7:41 PM Our school always tries to keep issues from going to our SRO, they want to be in control. If it is in the SROS hands they have no say. I would make them accountable. Stand firm, press charges. If they heehaw around you, set up a time to come to the school and meet with them and the SRO. As far as homeschooling, I would recommend trying to finish out the year and getting him to private school for the next year, only because you mention how you don't feel ready. I have a few students that were homeschooled only to be very behind once back in school. I have an 8th grader who I got in the 6th grade who could not read. Thats what worries me, especially knowing he will already be playing catch up moving to a better school.
I do know the ambulance has been called to the school twice this year, was told it was due to playground injuries, not so sure I believe them now.
I think a lot of us give ourselves too little credit on our ability to teach the basics. The curriculums available out there break it down into steps for you--as an educated adult, you know how to do the steps, you just don't know how to break them down and teach them without guidance. Crap, I taught my kindergartner how to multiply because she asked...I had no idea I could do that, but she totally caught on. It sounds like the learning environment has been compromised, which is the reason my kids are in private school and not public, so is he *really* getting anything out of school anyway with all that going on? If you're leaving at the end of the year, I wouldn't hesitate to homeschool him. You'll probably do a better job preparing him for the new school anyway. |
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| Three 4 Luck - 2014-02-18 12:39 PM
Barnmom - 2014-02-17 7:49 PM magic gunsmoke - 2014-02-17 7:41 PM Our school always tries to keep issues from going to our SRO, they want to be in control. If it is in the SROS hands they have no say. I would make them accountable. Stand firm, press charges. If they heehaw around you, set up a time to come to the school and meet with them and the SRO. As far as homeschooling, I would recommend trying to finish out the year and getting him to private school for the next year, only because you mention how you don't feel ready. I have a few students that were homeschooled only to be very behind once back in school. I have an 8th grader who I got in the 6th grade who could not read. Thats what worries me, especially knowing he will already be playing catch up moving to a better school.
I do know the ambulance has been called to the school twice this year, was told it was due to playground injuries, not so sure I believe them now.
What does he want to do? |
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Location: Where the stars at night are big and bright, TX | The anti-bullying "programs" are a complete joke. They waste time and tax payers money telling the kids what not to do but don't and won't enforce it because after all, even the heathen inflicting injury is guaranteed a public education. We don't have a rash of those problems here but when they happen, the administration won't do anything...they tell the parents to go meet with the parents of the other kids on their own time. |
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