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Location: Florida | I have a 3 year old I am starting on the barrels. As we add speed the o- ring I ride her in is not quite enough. I was looking at the Simplicity Bit, but dont know what mouthpiece to get it in. She is in a smooth snaffle now and works great I just need to be able to pick her up and shape her before the barrel. So is the Simplicity Bit a good choice or should I look at a diffrent bit. |
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| destinypenny17 - 2014-03-13 9:39 AM
I have a 3 year old I am starting on the barrels. As we add speed the o- ring I ride her in is not quite enough. I was looking at the Simplicity Bit, but dont know what mouthpiece to get it in. She is in a smooth snaffle now and works great I just need to be able to pick her up and shape her before the barrel. So is the Simplicity Bit a good choice or should I look at a diffrent bit.
the simplicity would be good to lift and shape her through the turn, but it has no "whoa".
I wouldn't use it on a young horse just learning, I use it on my been there, done that, finished mare, helps me stay out of her way and just get that extra lift through the turn. |
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| It actually can have whoa if you add a curb chain. A chain mouth will give you less whoa because it works mainly off the cheeks but young horses usually hold them well. You could use a twisted wire with a curb, I'd imagine that would give you plenty of whoa and good lift. You also might look into the delight. |
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Location: Florida | I have a Jr. Cow horse smooth mouth maybe I can put that on her?? |
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| Since the horse is still very young, I would be looking at foundation. I would be looking back at the training process, and ask myself did I miss a step? Should I be emphasizing on my rate more?
Once you bit a horse up due to no rate, it can be a slippery slope, as the horses mouth can become densentized to the bit then most people go harsher instead of lighter.
A horse should be primarily be rating off of your seat, not your hands. It takes a lot of slow work, and not necessarily always on the barrels.
Not sure if this is your case, but I bit up with caution.
Myself I start with a 3 piece snaffle, then I go to a sweet six with the lifesaver mouth piece. Once the horse is competing and running, if I need a little more bit I will go to the Sheri cervi short shank. |
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Location: CA | I have the simplicity in all three mouth pieces and I really like them. If you don't use a chin strap its similiar to a draw gag. I have been using the smooth mouthpiece on my 3 year old colt and hes working a really nice pattern in it. I am also running a 10 year old mare in the twisted mouth piece. she is just being entered and seasonsed. Both horses are light and have a good stop on them.
ETA: I am not a big fan of the junior cowhorse bit. I used to love it but as I have used other bits I've found other bits that fit my riding and training style a lot better. When I move one out of a snaffle I use the simplicity bits alot. My other go to bits are the Ed Wright locked mouth piece bits.
Edited by drivemaround 2014-03-13 10:30 AM
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Location: Nowhere Land | Look into the Simplicity 2. Its not as popular as the Simplicity but IMO a good step up bit from the D-ring or O-ring. If you like the way a simple snaffle feels in your hands you will enjoy the Simplicity 2. It offers the same "softness" as a snaffle but with a bit more "bite" to help lift a horse, while still being very forgiving.
- Carol Goostree has them listed on her site. I havent seen them available anywhere else.
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Location: Nowhere Land | http://youtu.be/rtuJKWJPLGo
This also may help you, Carol Goostree explains it all. <3 |
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Location: Florida | Thanks guys! I ordered it and the sweet six in a smooth mouth, we will see how they work!! |
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