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| Dash Ta Fame direct get and grand-get represented 50% of the futurity finalists. They also took home $155,559 or 68% of the futurity money. There wasn't any other sire or grand sire that was even close to this kind of haul. I'm beginning to question why anybody would own anything else! |
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| I agree to an extent but for everyone that makes it there are hundreds blown up in fields, its just DTF has more overall numbers.
Ive been wrong before, but not in the texas thread...
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Location: Oklahoma | Whiteboy - 2014-03-17 2:22 PM Dash Ta Fame direct get and grand-get represented 50% of the futurity finalists. They also took home $155,559 or 68% of the futurity money. There wasn't any other sire or grand sire that was even close to this kind of haul. I'm beginning to question why anybody would own anything else!
I'm gonna be guessing $$$$$$$$ 
I don't know what DTF prospects run, but I'm gonna assume they're not depreciating any time soon! |
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| If you can't ride papers, why does it matter? I believe in good breeding and getting horses with the lines that are bred to do the job, yet there are still so many people who still strongly believe that papers don't matter. Looking at those futurity results I don't know how you can think that, but anyway...
And there are probably less "blown up" ones than you think. There are such a small percentage of horses that can continue running at that high of a level for most of their life you just don't hear about them as much. It's not because they are blown up. Maybe they were sold to someone who just likes running at local jackpots or isn't a 1D rider. I equate it to being a star athlete in high school - how many of those make it to the "pros" in their sport? It's less than 5%. Same with barrel futurity horses going on to be NFR horses, the odds are just not in your favor. Doesn't mean they aren't nice horses that have long 4D careers with happy owners, you just don't read about them in BHN. People like to assume they were blown up because you stop hearing about them. |
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| Itsme - 2014-03-17 2:37 PM I agree to an extent but for everyone that makes it there are hundreds blown up in fields, its just DTF has more overall numbers. Ive been wrong before, but not in the texas thread...
If you look at the 2010 produce for DTF VS FG. In this furturity alone DTF's for 2010 averaged $894 on 174 registered foals. FG on the other hand averaged $152 for this futurity per registered foal based on the 97 foal registered. That is 5.88 X's. The cost to purchase isn't that different on a dtf vs fg, but based on this race, the earning potential is a huge difference. |
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Location: Oklahoma | Whiteboy - 2014-03-17 2:54 PM Itsme - 2014-03-17 2:37 PM I agree to an extent but for everyone that makes it there are hundreds blown up in fields, its just DTF has more overall numbers. Ive been wrong before, but not in the texas thread... If you look at the 2010 produce for DTF VS FG. In this furturity alone DTF's for 2010 averaged $894 on 174 registered foals. FG on the other hand averaged $152 for this futurity per registered foal based on the 97 foal registered. That is 5.88 X's. The cost to purchase isn't that different on a dtf vs fg, but based on this race, the earning potential is a huge difference.
None of those DTF babies came from Texas, did they?? |
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| The interesting thing is DTF dominates futurities but not the NFR |
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| cheryl makofka - 2014-03-17 1:30 PM
The interesting thing is DTF dominates futurities but not the NFR
There are more own get of DTF that have run at NFR than any other sire since people really started paying attention to breeding for barrel horses and keeping track of records. DTF has sired 8 of them. (Gonna Be Famous, JL Dash Ta Heaven, Dash Ta Vanila, Repete Fame, Real Claim Ta Fame, Swivel Ta Fame, Judge My Fame, Fantasia Fame). |
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| 3 To Go - 2014-03-17 3:52 PM
cheryl makofka - 2014-03-17 1:30 PM
The interesting thing is DTF dominates futurities but not the NFR
There are more own get of DTF that have run at NFR than any other sire since people really started paying attention to breeding for barrel horses and keeping track of records. DTF has sired 8 of them. (Gonna Be Famous, JL Dash Ta Heaven, Dash Ta Vanila, Repete Fame, Real Claim Ta Fame, Swivel Ta Fame, Judge My Fame, Fantasia Fame ).
You beat me to it!!! |
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| 3 To Go - 2014-03-17 3:52 PM
cheryl makofka - 2014-03-17 1:30 PM
The interesting thing is DTF dominates futurities but not the NFR
There are more own get of DTF that have run at NFR than any other sire since people really started paying attention to breeding for barrel horses and keeping track of records. DTF has sired 8 of them. (Gonna Be Famous, JL Dash Ta Heaven, Dash Ta Vanila, Repete Fame, Real Claim Ta Fame, Swivel Ta Fame, Judge My Fame, Fantasia Fame ).
More then I thought, but how much money has been one on a DTF, as compared to FWF, PC Frenchmans Hayday, DFP, FG |
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| cheryl makofka - 2014-03-17 1:57 PM
3 To Go - 2014-03-17 3:52 PM
cheryl makofka - 2014-03-17 1:30 PM
The interesting thing is DTF dominates futurities but not the NFR
There are more own get of DTF that have run at NFR than any other sire since people really started paying attention to breeding for barrel horses and keeping track of records. DTF has sired 8 of them. (Gonna Be Famous, JL Dash Ta Heaven, Dash Ta Vanila, Repete Fame, Real Claim Ta Fame, Swivel Ta Fame, Judge My Fame, Fantasia Fame ).
More then I thought, but how much money has been one on a DTF, as compared to FWF, PC Frenchmans Hayday, DFP, FG
You could pull Equistat reports, but it's only been the last couple of years they have really been tracking rodeo earnings for the entire season. So they wouldn't be entirely accurate since several of the DTFs and others you listed ran before rodeo earnings were being kept throughout the year and not just at the NFR. I don't think it's a statistic that can be accurately used right now since until recent years rodeo record were largely incomplete compared to Futurity, Derby and 4D earnings being tracked. |
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| Longneck - 2014-03-17 2:49 PM Whiteboy - 2014-03-17 2:22 PM Dash Ta Fame direct get and grand-get represented 50% of the futurity finalists. They also took home $155,559 or 68% of the futurity money. There wasn't any other sire or grand sire that was even close to this kind of haul. I'm beginning to question why anybody would own anything else! I'm gonna be guessing $$$$$$$$ I don't know what DTF prospects run, but I'm gonna assume they're not depreciating any time soon!
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Location: Dubach, LA | I'd love to have one. Maybe my fairy godmother will show up with a DTF for me. |
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Location: Oklahoma | Whiteboy - 2014-03-17 2:22 PM Dash Ta Fame direct get and grand-get represented 50% of the futurity finalists. They also took home $155,559 or 68% of the futurity money. There wasn't any other sire or grand sire that was even close to this kind of haul. I'm beginning to question why anybody would own anything else!
There aint no denying they are AWESOME! However, I think you need to do the % of DTF get and grand get who were ENTERED vs other horses ... there are dang sure a lot more DTFs than any other bloodline IMO. |
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Location: The edge of no where | 3 To Go - 2014-03-17 4:15 PM cheryl makofka - 2014-03-17 1:57 PM 3 To Go - 2014-03-17 3:52 PM cheryl makofka - 2014-03-17 1:30 PM The interesting thing is DTF dominates futurities but not the NFR There are more own get of DTF that have run at NFR than any other sire since people really started paying attention to breeding for barrel horses and keeping track of records. DTF has sired 8 of them. (Gonna Be Famous, JL Dash Ta Heaven, Dash Ta Vanila, Repete Fame, Real Claim Ta Fame, Swivel Ta Fame, Judge My Fame, Fantasia Fame ). More then I thought, but how much money has been one on a DTF, as compared to FWF, PC Frenchmans Hayday, DFP, FG You could pull Equistat reports, but it's only been the last couple of years they have really been tracking rodeo earnings for the entire season. So they wouldn't be entirely accurate since several of the DTFs and others you listed ran before rodeo earnings were being kept throughout the year and not just at the NFR. I don't think it's a statistic that can be accurately used right now since until recent years rodeo record were largely incomplete compared to Futurity, Derby and 4D earnings being tracked.
^^ This is very true.
I'm not 100% positive on this, but isn't Stingray the only PC Frenchmans Hayday to run at the NFR? |
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Location: Golden Gulf Coast of Texas | Runnin < C > - 2014-03-17 8:24 PM
Whiteboy - 2014-03-17 2:22 PM Dash Ta Fame direct get and grand-get represented 50% of the futurity finalists. They also took home $155,559 or 68% of the futurity money. There wasn't any other sire or grand sire that was even close to this kind of haul. I'm beginning to question why anybody would own anything else!
There aint no denying they are AWESOME! However, I think you need to do the % of DTF get and grand get who were ENTERED vs other horses ... there are dang sure a lot more DTFs than any other bloodline IMO.
There are more of them BECAUSE of how natural they rate and still have the speed! I always laugh when I see this comment. There is always gonna be a great demand for what works and excels !!! |
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Location: Oklahoma | mreklaw - 2014-03-17 8:38 PM Runnin < C > - 2014-03-17 8:24 PM Whiteboy - 2014-03-17 2:22 PM Dash Ta Fame direct get and grand-get represented 50% of the futurity finalists. They also took home $155,559 or 68% of the futurity money. There wasn't any other sire or grand sire that was even close to this kind of haul. I'm beginning to question why anybody would own anything else! There aint no denying they are AWESOME! However, I think you need to do the % of DTF get and grand get who were ENTERED vs other horses ... there are dang sure a lot more DTFs than any other bloodline IMO. There are more of them BECAUSE of how natural they rate and still have the speed! I always laugh when I see this comment. There is always gonna be a great demand for what works and excels !!!
I like them too! Dont get me wrong ... all I'm saying is if you have 100 horsees entered and 40 are DTFs... 25 are FG ... 15 are DFP... 10 are OTMR ... 10 are BB.... More than likely there are going to be more DTF in the winners circle :) |
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Location: Washington | Whiteboy - 2014-03-17 12:22 PM Dash Ta Fame direct get and grand-get represented 50% of the futurity finalists. They also took home $155,559 or 68% of the futurity money. There wasn't any other sire or grand sire that was even close to this kind of haul. I'm beginning to question why anybody would own anything else!
Please look at the mare power to the stallion.... Proven.
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Location: Kansas | There is a good reason so many win...they have that speed and a move to die for! I can't afford the real deal although I have started a few...but there are some really nice sons of DTF siring that same move! |
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