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Location: Paradise , tx | Sad, but not surprised. In anything with alot of money, there is usually corruption. |
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Hungarian Midget Woman
Location: Midwest | peta sucks
didn't even watch, but anything i have seen by them is full of chit, no offense meant to you op, but I don't give them a second thought.
they tried to come to a friend of mine's rodeo and film to show "abuse". Friend running it (ETA the rodeo) has worked with the ASPCA. PETA has zero credibilty. They are as bad as the HSUS or SHARK
Not saying abuse does not exist, but PETA makes stuff up on the regular.
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Location: Kansas | Tons of abuse in the horse racing industry.........no getting around it, PETA or no PETA.
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Location: lexington KY | This was in the NY Times this week and The Bloodhorse. Time will tell, however some have already pulled their horses from Steve, impending an investigation.
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Location: ohio-in my own little world with pretty ponies :) | I think they're full of it and I'm most cases don't have a single clue what they're talking about. Most of what they showed isn't bad! I'm all for animal rights but I think they take it too far at times. I agree, there is a TON of abuse in anything but educate yourself! |
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Location: Midwest | lexyy12 - 2014-03-22 10:08 AM
I think they're full of it and I'm most cases don't have a single clue what they're talking about. Most of what they showed isn't bad! I'm all for animal rights but I think they take it too far at times. I agree, there is a TON of abuse in anything but educate yourself!
not disagreeing
anyone who thinks there is no abuse in racing has their head in the sand, no doubt.
I just don't see PETA as a credible source. ever.
I did watch the first few minutes. I saw a lot of swearing, and a horse that should have been retired long ago, before I had to get up and be productive.
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Hungarian Midget Woman
Location: Midwest | BTW, if PETA had their way, there would be no racing or rodeo at all.
I try to think of that before I give them any internet hits. |
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Location: ND | i don't like a lot of things about PEA but the info is accurate in the article and thus why i'm not a big fan of racing.....but it's not just racing that has a huge problem.......all of the juvenile big money disciplines are a problem for me..... |
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Location: Midwest | dhdqhllc - 2014-03-22 10:36 AM
i don't like a lot of things about PEA but the info is accurate in the article and thus why i'm not a big fan of racing.....but it's not just racing that has a huge problem.......all of the juvenile big money disciplines are a problem for me.....
agree
I still can't support them as an organization. they could be preaching the wonders of science and I'd shove them off a bridge.
And we all know how much I love science, so there ya go. lol |
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Hungarian Midget Woman
Location: Midwest | Every discipline has issues. The ones with the most money involved normally have more. JMO
But I'm not about to support an organization that wants to ban all rodeo, either. |
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| I did watch the whole thing. I found it very sad for the horses. Like I posted earlier... GAMBLING can turn ANYTHING UGLY. As for PETA, if there was no abuse, there would be no PETA. I think that is pretty simple. Most truths are..... |
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Location: ND | dhdqhllc - 2014-03-22 9:36 AM i don't like a lot of things about PEA but the info is accurate in the article and thus why i'm not a big fan of racing.....but it's not just racing that has a huge problem.......all of the juvenile big money disciplines are a problem for me.....
EXACTLY, a friend of mine with racehorses had me look at this last night. He wanted me to know that while what's shown there is reality a lot of places that not all trainers are like that. I told him I'm not surprised at all that it's that ugly & it's why I'm not a racing fan.....nor do I want anything to do with pushing horses into competition or hard training before they're at least 4-5 years old. |
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Location: Midwest | Quoted from their site:
We at PETA very much love the animal companions who share our homes, but we believe that it would have been in the animals’ best interests if the institution of “pet keeping”—i.e., breeding animals to be kept and regarded as “pets”—never existed. The international pastime of domesticating animals has created an overpopulation crisis; as a result, millions of unwanted animals are destroyed every year as “surplus.” This selfish desire to possess animals and receive love from them causes immeasurable suffering, which results from manipulating their breeding, selling or giving them away casually, and depriving them of the opportunity to engage in their natural behavior. They are restricted to human homes, where they must obey commands and can only eat, drink, and even urinate when humans allow them to.
Read more: http://www.peta.org/about-peta/why-peta/pets/#ixzz2whttgRMG
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Location: Midwest | BTW, being by a trotter track I have seen quite a bit... and I'm not even involved with the sport, at all. I don't mind racing, but I'm not blind to the abuses that can happen.
I also meant no hostility to any one here (by any means)
I'm just not a fan of that organization, and they do make money from "hits" to their site, videos, etc. |
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| I spotted a dude who didn't look right at one of our Speedhorse shows. I saw him hanging out with camera in hand all morning, taking shots here and there of the outside warm up arena. I started paying attention to what he was getting shots of - horses misbehaving and being schooled. During the open arena before the show got started he was plastered up against the panels taking shots. I rode right up to him and asked him if he belonged to one of the barrel racers? I figured I could strike up a friendly convo if he did, but I was 99.9% sure he didn't. And he answered no. I forget the exact words I used but I got the message to him that PETA and other groups like them really weren't welcome around show people. He left. I figure he was from some group or other, whether or not PETA didn't matter to me.
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Always Off Topic
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Location: ND | bingo - 2014-03-22 10:42 AM I did watch the whole thing. I found it very sad for the horses. Like I posted earlier... GAMBLING can turn ANYTHING UGLY. As for PETA, if there was no abuse, there would be no PETA. I think that is pretty simple. Most truths are.....
that's not true at all.....PETA's end goal is elimination of animals for anything....possibly not even as pets.... |
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Location: East Tennessee but who knows?! | dhdqhllc - 2014-03-22 12:29 PM bingo - 2014-03-22 10:42 AM I did watch the whole thing. I found it very sad for the horses. Like I posted earlier... GAMBLING can turn ANYTHING UGLY. As for PETA, if there was no abuse, there would be no PETA. I think that is pretty simple. Most truths are..... that's not true at all.....PETA's end goal is elimination of animals for anything....possibly not even as pets....
The problem with PETA is that they don't just stop at true abuse. They believe all animals should be free and not enslaved -- just like humans. That we have no right to make animals do what they don't want to do. That's the root belief at what they do.
So that means no riding, no training, no management because it's making the horse do something they don't want to do.
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Location: the high desert | I wish every PETA member would go fall off the edge of a cliff. Their dumb enough, just like sheep, the leader goes they all go.
P.S. no I did not watch the video and I won't becuase it is from PETA. There is abuse in EVERY discipline, especially when it involves big money and lots of it, and the abuse many of these horses suffer from because of it is just awful.
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