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 No Fear
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Location: TN | There was a thread a while back regarding which leg takes the most stress during the turn, the inside or outside. I did a search and can't find it so if anyone can post the link I would appreciate it. I'll check back a little later.. ..thanks everyone.... |
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| I'm thinking the outside leg. I've got a gelding that had occasional problems with the 1st barrel, right turn. Turns out he's got arthritis in his left hock. |
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Hungarian Midget Woman
Location: Midwest | I would think it depends on how the horse moves...
I would also think the inside hind since they sit hard coming in and then are forced to push hard coming out, but I am just shooting from the hip here. |
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 Miss Laundry Misshap
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| Personally, I would think both back legs take a lot of stress. The inside leg is the one they are sitting on to turn, but the outside leg is the one that pushes off through the turn to make the turn happen.
I'd be interested in a more technical evaluation of this topic though! |
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 Tough Patooty
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Location: Sperry, OK | It's the outside leg around each barrel.. the inside leg kinda floats around and guides for direction, but the outside leg is where the pressure is and actaully causing the direction change and keeping the forward momentum going. |
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The Advice Guru
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| Front inside, back outside IMO, the front is the one reaching and pulling, the back is the one stabilizing and driving |
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Elite Veteran
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| I actually just asked this to my vet yesterday when we were injecting my horse! He said that the outside hind leg usually takes the most abuse. It is the one that they push off with. He said about 90% of the time, if at a barrel race, you watch the horses that "hang up" or almost stop before taking off from a barrel, they are sore in that outside leg, usually the hock. |
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 I keep my butt inside
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Location: Weatherford, Texas | I would say it depends on how the horse turns but either way- my guess would be inside hock takes more and outside stifle takes more than the opposing joint. |
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Location: South MS | My vet said the outside rear usually takes the worse beating as its driving the entire body through the turn |
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Location: USA | When I'm going up to a barrel I use my inside mainly because if not my mare will try to hit it with her shoulder so I put my inside up near her cinch and then if I need my outside to bring her closer I will use my outside leg. But most of time I don't have to. I know during runs it's hard to think about all this but it's just muscle memory for me. And yet I can remember where to put my legs but I can't remember to kick in between first and second,lol  |
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Location: USA | Meant, to also put this: But not all horses are the same, mine is push style and that is just the way I ride her. My free runners I barely have to use my leg at all, I mainly use my seat and then if they don't collect up and they seem they want to drift or run past that barrel I'll use my outside. |
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No Fear
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Location: TN | Thanks everyone for the replies.....
So everyone agrees out of the front legs it's the inside leg that gets it worse in the turn...? |
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 Winner winner chicken dinner
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Location: California | My mare developed arthritis in her outside front (knee). Look at pictures, the outside front leg is the one that braces in the turn. |
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Tough Patooty
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Location: Sperry, OK | bracer41 - 2014-03-26 9:36 AM Thanks everyone for the replies.....
So everyone agrees out of the front legs it's the inside leg that gets it worse in the turn...?
If you have any videos of your horse running.. watch them in slow motion and you will see where your horse puts the pressure. I personally think the front is closer to equal presure than the hind. On the front, the inside is pulling and keeping momentun, but the outside is driving to make the direction change and push... so kinda equals out I think. On the hind end, the outside takes the most pressure. |
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Location: Deep South | cheryl makofka - 2014-03-26 9:04 AM
Front inside, back outside IMO, the front is the one reaching and pulling, the back is the one stabilizing and driving
I agree with Cheryl. Front inside and back outside. Horses legs coincide diagonally. So if one is taking a lot of stress/in pain the one diagonal from it very likely is also. |
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 You get what you give
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Location: Texas | The front end bears more weight (60%F/40%H) than the hind end. But the hind end drives propulsion. So it makes sense that the front inside leg, since it is bearing weight around the turn, would be affected, and the outside hind leg, which is propelling through the turn so the inside hind can pivot. so if you have a barrel issue thats front end related, look on the side of the leg as the turn you are making (right turn, right front). Hind end, look opposite. (right turn, left hind).
HOWEVER- I think all four legs are equally important, equally at risk for injury, and although its a guideline to think that way about outside or inside.. I would never rule anything out totally. If they are hurting somewhere, it will manifest itself and its not always how you would expect it to.
If the horse has sore hocks I would expect issues with both turns. Stifles I had a horse with a right stifle chip and she truly could turn the right 100% normal, and the left turn was an issue. Hocks I have always had a general just decrease in performance, not necessarily one turn normal and the other turn bad. |
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Location: TN | BamaCanChaser - 2014-03-26 9:47 AM
cheryl makofka - 2014-03-26 9:04 AM
Front inside, back outside IMO, the front is the one reaching and pulling, the back is the one stabilizing and driving
I agree with Cheryl. Front inside and back outside. Horses legs coincide diagonally. So if one is taking a lot of stress/in pain the one diagonal from it very likely is also.
I just had my gelding x-rayed and injected. his front right and left hind were the problem areas and his first barrel has been his weakest barrel so this makes sense since it's his inside front and outside hind on that barrel. |
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The Advice Guru
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| phillyincal - 2014-03-26 9:41 AM
My mare developed arthritis in her outside front (knee). Look at pictures, the outside front leg is the one that braces in the turn.
There are many factors that can contribute to arthritis in any joint, trauma, any swelling, malnourishment (I just learned this) conformation, etc |
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  Roan Wonder
Location: SW MO | Is this what you are looking for
http://forums.barrelhorseworld.com/forum/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=444446&posts=7&mid=6924695&highlight=inside+outside+leg&highlightmode=1&action=search#M6924695
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No Fear
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Location: TN |
No that is not it. The one I am thinking of is about the horse's legs not the humans. Thanks for looking for me though! |
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