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mystiboo
Reg. Dec 2012
Posted 2014-03-26 7:29 PM
Subject: Ulcer symptoms?


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I think my mare may have ulcers..
She has always been a nervous horse, but after owning her for a couple of years she has calmed and came to me to be caught, and was great with almost everything.
Starting a month ago she started acting touchy, and would freeze up and act like I was going to hit her when I patted her.
Then it progressed to me not even being able to touch her without her continuously backing up all around the field.
Now, She is still very touchy around her tummy and flank areas. She doesn't want to be touched, brushed, petted and is becoming near impossible to catch.

She is still eating fine, not sure about her water intake though as she shares with another horse.
Could this be ulcers? How do I know for sure? If it is ulcers, how do I treat it?

I heard aloe vera juice is good for prevention but what about healing?

Thanks for any insight!
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runs4fun
Reg. Oct 2006
Posted 2014-03-26 7:42 PM
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This month's BHNews has a nutrition article that also lists many of the symptoms of ulcers; however, since you are talking about a mare and taking into account  what you've said about her symptoms; I'd be leaning more towards hormones and/or enlarged ovaries/tumor.  I'd have her vetted and have her palpated to feel the size of her ovaries.
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mystiboo
Reg. Dec 2012
Posted 2014-03-26 8:03 PM
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^^ I don't think it's hormones as she has never been like this before.. But I will look into it. Another thing is.. When I touch her in the wrong spot she runs sideways and starts breathing very deep, and gets very tense and nervous.
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runs4fun
Reg. Oct 2006
Posted 2014-03-26 8:14 PM
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She definitely needs to be seen by a vet. It may or may not be ulcers or ovary problems...it's sounds like she's in some definite pain which needs to be looked into. As far as ovary problems go....it's a possibility as these problems develop in mares it's not something that they necessarily start out with as a filly and keep, it's something that can happen as the mare matures over time. I'm still betting ovaries/hormones....very treatable is the good thing about that.

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mystiboo
Reg. Dec 2012
Posted 2014-03-26 8:36 PM
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I agree I would love to have a vet to see her. But she has always been terrified of the vet. Now, she won't barely let me handle her let alone someone else. Would the vet be able to diagnose her with her sedated?
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cheryl makofka
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2014-03-26 10:28 PM
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Yes as they need to do an internal ultrasound to rule out reproductive issues, and scope to rule out stomach ulcers.

I wouldn't scope personally, but I would draw blood do CBC lytes, esr, ck, and hormones, fsh, estrogen, (possible testosterone I would have the conversation with my vet). I may also throw in cortisol levels as the adrenal gland tumours can effect cortisol and testosterone levels, not sure about estrogen, but ovaries effect estrogen and fsh levels

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JLBerry
Reg. Jul 2013
Posted 2014-03-27 7:41 AM
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Of course it could be 1,000 other things, but it does sound like ulcer symptoms. You could treat her for ulcers and see if it helps. It definitely won't hurt her to be treated and you don't have to spend money at the vet right away. There are a million products, but I have used Oxy-Gen Ulcer for my horses. It treats both fore and hind gut ulcers. It's $250 for a 15 day treatment. I highly recommend it!
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wildride
Reg. Jul 2008
Posted 2014-03-27 7:44 AM
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There is a fecal test you can get from your vet now put out by Succeed that tests for blood and albumin (I think) in the manure.  Easier than a scope to test for ulcers (probably not as definitive as a scope, but definitely cheaper).  Got one from my vet and tested my mare.  Very easy.  I also went with the Oxy-Ulcer and Oxy-Max.  Using Jailbreak pre-race.  I am seeing improvements in temperment and effort during performance and at home as well.  Good luck.  Definitely see a vet.       

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hoofs_in_motion
Reg. Apr 2011
Posted 2014-03-27 7:46 AM
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There was an excellent article that listed ulcer symptoms...and how to go about treating them. I thought I shared it on my facebook....but I don't believe I hit post LMAO.

Let me see if I can dig it up. The article hit some really good points 
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Douglas J Gordon
Reg. Jun 2008
Posted 2014-03-27 8:56 AM
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mystiboo - 2014-03-26 7:29 PM I think my mare may have ulcers.. She has always been a nervous horse, but after owning her for a couple of years she has calmed and came to me to be caught, and was great with almost everything. Starting a month ago she started acting touchy, and would freeze up and act like I was going to hit her when I patted her. Then it progressed to me not even being able to touch her without her continuously backing up all around the field. Now, She is still very touchy around her tummy and flank areas. She doesn't want to be touched, brushed, petted and is becoming near impossible to catch. She is still eating fine, not sure about her water intake though as she shares with another horse. Could this be ulcers? How do I know for sure? If it is ulcers, how do I treat it? I heard aloe vera juice is good for prevention but what about healing? Thanks for any insight!

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I guarantee that is will work if your horse has ulcers!  It is very economical at $150 to treat for ulcers.  It is a sweetened buffered omeprazole powder as a top feeder.  Ask others on BHW about their experience with UlcerCure OTC and their success.

Aloevera is a great topical for cuts but as a soother for ulcers it is not a very succesful treatment.
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3canstorun
Reg. May 2007
Posted 2014-03-27 9:20 AM
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Douglas J Gordon - 2014-03-27 9:56 AM
mystiboo - 2014-03-26 7:29 PM I think my mare may have ulcers.. She has always been a nervous horse, but after owning her for a couple of years she has calmed and came to me to be caught, and was great with almost everything. Starting a month ago she started acting touchy, and would freeze up and act like I was going to hit her when I patted her. Then it progressed to me not even being able to touch her without her continuously backing up all around the field. Now, She is still very touchy around her tummy and flank areas. She doesn't want to be touched, brushed, petted and is becoming near impossible to catch. She is still eating fine, not sure about her water intake though as she shares with another horse. Could this be ulcers? How do I know for sure? If it is ulcers, how do I treat it? I heard aloe vera juice is good for prevention but what about healing? Thanks for any insight!
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I guarantee that is will work if your horse has ulcers!  It is very economical at $150 to treat for ulcers.  It is a sweetened buffered omeprazole powder as a top feeder.  Ask others on BHW about their experience with UlcerCure OTC and their success.



Aloevera is a great topical for cuts but as a soother for ulcers it is not a very succesful treatment.

I know this has been asked, but does your product treat both types of ulcers, front and hind?  Thanks.  
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Time2beat
Reg. Sep 2008
Posted 2014-03-27 9:47 AM
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 Another vote for Oxy Ulcer!
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Douglas J Gordon
Reg. Jun 2008
Posted 2014-03-27 11:06 AM
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3canstorun - 2014-03-27 9:20 AM
Douglas J Gordon - 2014-03-27 9:56 AM
mystiboo - 2014-03-26 7:29 PM I think my mare may have ulcers.. She has always been a nervous horse, but after owning her for a couple of years she has calmed and came to me to be caught, and was great with almost everything. Starting a month ago she started acting touchy, and would freeze up and act like I was going to hit her when I patted her. Then it progressed to me not even being able to touch her without her continuously backing up all around the field. Now, She is still very touchy around her tummy and flank areas. She doesn't want to be touched, brushed, petted and is becoming near impossible to catch. She is still eating fine, not sure about her water intake though as she shares with another horse. Could this be ulcers? How do I know for sure? If it is ulcers, how do I treat it? I heard aloe vera juice is good for prevention but what about healing? Thanks for any insight!
ulcercureotc.com



I guarantee that is will work if your horse has ulcers!  It is very economical at $150 to treat for ulcers.  It is a sweetened buffered omeprazole powder as a top feeder.  Ask others on BHW about their experience with UlcerCure OTC and their success.



Aloevera is a great topical for cuts but as a soother for ulcers it is not a very succesful treatment.
I know this has been asked, but does your product treat both types of ulcers, front and hind?  Thanks.  

No,  Omeprazole heals in the digestive track that is most common for ulcers.  The hind gut ulcer are least common and very hard to diagnose because they need to be scoped with a cleaned out system in a horse.
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