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     Location: Northern Ontario | Ok so I tried on a bunch of saddles! My lynn mckenzie, a billy cook, my custom which fit like a glove a few months ago but not anymore and 3 other saddles. My major problem is that if it fits on the withers but it pops up in the back. I need a 7" gullet but im getting so discouraged with the rest! And she is only 3 so her shape will change some more. See last post for pics
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Married to a Louie Lover
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Had similar issues, hauled horse to a tack shop and just started trying stuff. Left with a crown c. Love it and he's running great. |
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     Location: Northern Ontario | I really dislike treeless. I think its just as bad cause they dont distribute weight well for the horse |
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| Have you tried Coats or Lazy L? they have flatter bars so seems to fit more horses! Contact Larry Coats he will help ya out |
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     Location: In a happy place | barZ - 2014-03-27 7:29 AM Have you tried Coats or Lazy L? they have flatter bars so seems to fit more horses! Contact Larry Coats he will help ya out
I think this is a good idea. |
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| Sounds like the saddle is too wide. I have one massive horse that I use a 7 inch gullet on. I have one that has an extremely broad back but does not need a gullet that wide. I just had Joseys fit a saddle on her and ordered one. Surprisingly, the semi quarter horse bars fit be st so it just depeends on the individual saddle. |
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      Location: Mi | I had the same problem, nothing fit right. The either would sit right on her back and be way to tight in the wither/shoulder area or they would fit there and pop up in the back. I tried everything I could get my hands on with no luck. I finally tried a Cactus Marlene McRae Special effx and it fit, I ordered one the next day. I've had it since July and really do like hte saddle and it seems to fit my mare the best that any of them have. Just an idea, maybe to see if someone has one you can try. Good luck, I know how frustrating it is! |
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           Location: Kansas | sorrel horse ranch - 2014-03-27 8:29 AM barZ - 2014-03-27 7:29 AM Have you tried Coats or Lazy L? they have flatter bars so seems to fit more horses! Contact Larry Coats he will help ya out I think this is a good idea.
I'm going to agree as well....a coats fit my hard to fit mare perfectly! |
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  Neat Freak
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     Location: Wonderful Wyoming | I have been told the gullet should be the least of your worries. Bar angle and the twist of the saddle from front to back make the world of difference. http://saddlemakers.org/id193.htm
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    Location: South Dakota | A classic Equine Biofit Pad may work good for you...my saddle was popping up in the back, because it was a bit too wide....the Biofit pad really helped out in my situation. |
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  Damn Yankee
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         Location: Somewhere between raising hell and Amazing Grace | wyoming barrel racer - 2014-03-27 1:04 PM I have been told the gullet should be the least of your worries. Bar angle and the twist of the saddle from front to back make the world of difference. http://saddlemakers.org/id193.htm
This.....
Gullet width is important, but not so important that you can forget about bars and trees.
Try posting photos of your horses back, a profile shot from the side, a shot of their back standing behind them, and maybe a few shots with saddles on. It's easier to get some ideas of poeple have visual aids. |
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        Location: Idaho | missroselee - 2014-03-27 11:39 AM wyoming barrel racer - 2014-03-27 1:04 PM I have been told the gullet should be the least of your worries. Bar angle and the twist of the saddle from front to back make the world of difference. http://saddlemakers.org/id193.htm This.....
Gullet width is important, but not so important that you can forget about bars and trees.
Try posting photos of your horses back, a profile shot from the side, a shot of their back standing behind them, and maybe a few shots with saddles on. It's easier to get some ideas of poeple have visual aids.
I agree. When I was younger, I was taught to be concerned what is going on with the gullet... but now it makes sense to be like wait... the shoulder/behind the shoulder area is USUALLY smaller then the back over the ribcage, etc... so why try to fit perfect at the withers, the bars might be too angled or twisted to fit the actual back. Technology has come a long way with saddles and there is a lot of good and bad info out there. I hate saddle fit. Honestly, it takes a lot of effort and a lot of experience to get it right. I own 4 barrel saddles and this year, non of them fit my back up horse... he is narrow behind his shoulders, but has a wide back, even shimming what i have isn't quite right. So I personally am looking into a Coats or Lazy L to try. The endless game |
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         Location: Somewhere between raising hell and Amazing Grace | flyhperformancehorse - 2014-03-27 3:20 PM missroselee - 2014-03-27 11:39 AM wyoming barrel racer - 2014-03-27 1:04 PM I have been told the gullet should be the least of your worries. Bar angle and the twist of the saddle from front to back make the world of difference. http://saddlemakers.org/id193.htm This.....
Gullet width is important, but not so important that you can forget about bars and trees.
Try posting photos of your horses back, a profile shot from the side, a shot of their back standing behind them, and maybe a few shots with saddles on. It's easier to get some ideas of poeple have visual aids. I agree. When I was younger, I was taught to be concerned what is going on with the gullet... but now it makes sense to be like wait... the shoulder/behind the shoulder area is USUALLY smaller then the back over the ribcage, etc... so why try to fit perfect at the withers, the bars might be too angled or twisted to fit the actual back. Technology has come a long way with saddles and there is a lot of good and bad info out there. I hate saddle fit. Honestly, it takes a lot of effort and a lot of experience to get it right. I own 4 barrel saddles and this year, non of them fit my back up horse... he is narrow behind his shoulders, but has a wide back, even shimming what i have isn't quite right. So I personally am looking into a Coats or Lazy L to try. The endless game
I went through hell and back with my now 9 year old gelding. I thank God I got in touch with Meleta Brown. Not only because her saddle actually works on my horse, but because I can't even begin to tell you all the knowledge I have and am still learning from her! |
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     Location: Northern Ontario | Ok, so I got pics of my saddle fit. It's really weird. One day it fits ok then the next it doesn't, but I am still looking for another saddle for this summer.
Hopefully this link works :) https://m.facebook.com/apryle.berube/albums/10154022850430637/ |
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   Location: Arizona | Maybe try a pad where you can add some shims. If you can get the saddle to level out this might help. |
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| wyoming barrel racer - 2014-03-27 12:04 PM
I have been told the gullet should be the least of your worries. Bar angle and the twist of the saddle from front to back make the world of difference. http://saddlemakers.org/id193.htm
That's the best article on saddle fit that I have ever seen.
Should be helpful to many. |
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      Location: Ohio | missroselee - 2014-03-27 3:25 PM flyhperformancehorse - 2014-03-27 3:20 PM missroselee - 2014-03-27 11:39 AM wyoming barrel racer - 2014-03-27 1:04 PM I have been told the gullet should be the least of your worries. Bar angle and the twist of the saddle from front to back make the world of difference. http://saddlemakers.org/id193.htm This.....
Gullet width is important, but not so important that you can forget about bars and trees.
Try posting photos of your horses back, a profile shot from the side, a shot of their back standing behind them, and maybe a few shots with saddles on. It's easier to get some ideas of poeple have visual aids. I agree. When I was younger, I was taught to be concerned what is going on with the gullet... but now it makes sense to be like wait... the shoulder/behind the shoulder area is USUALLY smaller then the back over the ribcage, etc... so why try to fit perfect at the withers, the bars might be too angled or twisted to fit the actual back. Technology has come a long way with saddles and there is a lot of good and bad info out there. I hate saddle fit. Honestly, it takes a lot of effort and a lot of experience to get it right. I own 4 barrel saddles and this year, non of them fit my back up horse... he is narrow behind his shoulders, but has a wide back, even shimming what i have isn't quite right. So I personally am looking into a Coats or Lazy L to try. The endless game I went through hell and back with my now 9 year old gelding. I thank God I got in touch with Meleta Brown. Not only because her saddle actually works on my horse, but because I can't even begin to tell you all the knowledge I have and am still learning from her!
I am waiting on my Meleta Brown as we speak. Can't wait to get it. She has been very helpful to me too. |
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     Location: Texas | I am debating between ordering another Tod Slone saddle or a Larry Coats. Leaning toward Larry Coats. |
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| I know the feeling :/ I am saving my money finally found a Lazy L by Larry Coats that fits so ordering my own. |
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