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 Zeal Queen
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Location: TEXAS | My 4 year old that I just got was being rode in a loomis. I've seen video of him loping the pattern as a 3 year old. But when I ride him he seems to be trying to do his own thing and pulling on me. Granted he is super lazy but I'm not getting anywhere very fast with him and this Loomis. What is something else I could try? | |
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 Accident Prone
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | I don't know how other people use the Loomis, but IMO it's all in the big release. You can't hang or pull too much. If you need to, you can run the bit up the cheeks and put a lot of pressure on them, then the instant you get response, you let it go and they get a big release. Most of mine after a couple of rides will get to where you can rotate the mouthpiece and they will give. Because I personally like a horse that will get in the bridle, I don't use this all the time on most horses. If one gets to wanting to pull on me, I'll put this on them and get them saying yes ma'am to my hands then go back to a regular bit. Others may use it differently.
I rode one of my mares in this quite a bit last year because she's weird about curb straps but had a conditioned response to a snaffle that I didn't like and couldn't get out of her. I finally got her graduated to a Neil Merrill gag after trying and failing with a Simplicity. | |
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Elite Veteran
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Location: Durango CO | Read this good article and see if it can help explain some of the things you might be wondering about. The biggest thing with the Loomis is to ride with individual hands. You never want to pull with both hands at once.
http://barrelhorsenews.com/training/training-articles/3262-understa... | |
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Location: California | Three 4 Luck - 2014-03-31 8:52 AM
I don't know how other people use the Loomis, but IMO it's all in the big release. You can't hang or pull too much. If you need to, you can run the bit up the cheeks and put a lot of pressure on them, then the instant you get response, you let it go and they get a big release. Most of mine after a couple of rides will get to where you can rotate the mouthpiece and they will give. Because I personally like a horse that will get in the bridle, I don't use this all the time on most horses. If one gets to wanting to pull on me, I'll put this on them and get them saying yes ma'am to my hands then go back to a regular bit. Others may use it differently.
I rode one of my mares in this quite a bit last year because she's weird about curb straps but had a conditioned response to a snaffle that I didn't like and couldn't get out of her. I finally got her graduated to a Neil Merrill gag after trying and failing with a Simplicity.
Agreed ^
My mare cant stand shanked bits but needs a little more then a snaffle actually running the pattern. I alternate between her loomis, a little s hack, and her 2 snaffles (she has a copper offset D and a chain o-ring. I have also used it a a "yes ma'am" bit on 2 other horses and then went directly back to snaffles. LOVE my loomis! | |
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  Crazy Chicken Chick
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| Serenity06 - 2014-03-31 4:50 PM Three 4 Luck - 2014-03-31 8:52 AM I don't know how other people use the Loomis, but IMO it's all in the big release. You can't hang or pull too much. If you need to, you can run the bit up the cheeks and put a lot of pressure on them, then the instant you get response, you let it go and they get a big release. Most of mine after a couple of rides will get to where you can rotate the mouthpiece and they will give. Because I personally like a horse that will get in the bridle, I don't use this all the time on most horses. If one gets to wanting to pull on me, I'll put this on them and get them saying yes ma'am to my hands then go back to a regular bit. Others may use it differently.
I rode one of my mares in this quite a bit last year because she's weird about curb straps but had a conditioned response to a snaffle that I didn't like and couldn't get out of her. I finally got her graduated to a Neil Merrill gag after trying and failing with a Simplicity. Agreed ^ My mare cant stand shanked bits but needs a little more then a snaffle actually running the pattern. I alternate between her loomis, a little s hack, and her 2 snaffles (she has a copper offset D and a chain o-ring. I have also used it a a "yes ma'am" bit on 2 other horses and then went directly back to snaffles. LOVE my loomis!
I Love my Loomis!!! When asking for a stop, or for the horse's face, you quickly alternate between hands, I just kinda pull my fingers back, not my whole hand unless the horse doesn't respond. Not sure if that explains it or not but I think different bits suit different people, just as they do different horses. | |
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