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Bear
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2014-04-08 10:34 AM
Subject: College athletes getting paid and unionizing?



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That's going to take some getting used to.  I'm having a hard time wrapping my arms around this. How is this supposed to work?
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TXBO
Reg. Aug 2009
Posted 2014-04-08 11:53 AM
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I don't think anybody know yet.  Only thing I'm sure of is that there is reform coming to the NCAA. 
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Nateracer
Reg. Feb 2008
Posted 2014-04-08 12:00 PM
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In reality, they are already "getting paid."  Scholarships are money paid to them.

Unionization just seems odd.  
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RLB
Reg. Dec 2009
Posted 2014-04-08 12:10 PM
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I think they're all a bunch of spoiled, arrogant brats who need a serious reality check.

 
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Whiteboy
Reg. Jul 2012
Posted 2014-04-08 12:10 PM
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Nateracer - 2014-04-08 12:00 PM In reality, they are already "getting paid."  Scholarships are money paid to them.



Unionization just seems odd.  

NCAA has pimped out atheletes for too long.  Scholarships are nothing compared to what they are producing.   
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run n rate
Reg. Feb 2007
Posted 2014-04-08 12:13 PM
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So far isnt' it just the private colleges? I hate to see it happen but at the same time when the colleges make the kind of money they do off their sports programs and say a player takes a hit while playing for them that ends their career before it starts, ie the player here a few years ago for Rutgers.
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bccanchaser16
Reg. Jan 2007
Posted 2014-04-08 12:24 PM
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 I sure as hope there is reform coming. Long time coming.
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Bear
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2014-04-08 12:25 PM
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I can see it all now.  You are getting ready to go to watch your favorite local college team play a football game on a warm, Indian summer Saturday afternoon, with fall colors on full display.  You go to pull into the parking lot and there's a sign:

   Game cancelled due to player's strike
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dhdqhllc
Reg. Feb 2011
Posted 2014-04-08 12:31 PM
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Nateracer - 2014-04-08 12:00 PM In reality, they are already "getting paid."  Scholarships are money paid to them.



Unionization just seems odd.  

 scholarships are nothing........
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rodeomom3
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2014-04-08 12:32 PM
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Whiteboy - 2014-04-08 12:10 PM
Nateracer - 2014-04-08 12:00 PM In reality, they are already "getting paid."  Scholarships are money paid to them.



Unionization just seems odd.  
NCAA has pimped out atheletes for too long.  Scholarships are nothing compared to what they are producing.   

 I agree.  I hate to see them unionize because I think it will hurt the sport but colleges have been making hundreds of millions a year off of their college atheletes.  
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TrailGirl
Reg. Jan 2014
Posted 2014-04-08 12:32 PM
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I love watching college football.  Much more so than NFL. (Although I will watch that too).  To me it has always seemed as though the college players play harder.  Try harder.  Maybe that's a false perception.  But I attributed that in part to the fact that the NFL players get paid the same win or lose.  The college boys are playing hard to stay on the team and to hopefully go on to the Pro's.  

So...if they are now paid...will that change the game?
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dhdqhllc
Reg. Feb 2011
Posted 2014-04-08 12:33 PM
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 collegiate sports should be privatized at every level and have to pay for themselves......collegiate sports have had a huge hand in completely ruining higher education
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TXBO
Reg. Aug 2009
Posted 2014-04-08 12:41 PM
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dhdqhllc - 2014-04-08 12:33 PM  collegiate sports should be privatized at every level and have to pay for themselves......collegiate sports have had a huge hand in completely ruining higher education

How so? 
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runnink
Reg. Sep 2009
Posted 2014-04-08 12:48 PM
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one of the counter issues raised either by the NCAA or their advocates...is that if you start paying the players...will it be taxable and if so, what about the scholarships - should they then be taxed as well.

the other issue is how can you allocate the same amount of dollars to every player when their contribution amount to funds received by the schools will vary greatly...as in how much does the starting quarterback/running back on the #1 football team in the country generate in ticket/jersey sales vs the second stringer on the same school's women's volleyball team that is not very competitive.

its just going to be a big mess.
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Bear
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2014-04-08 12:51 PM
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dhdqhllc - 2014-04-08 12:33 PM  collegiate sports should be privatized at every level and have to pay for themselves......collegiate sports have had a huge hand in completely ruining higher education

Good point.  I've never looked at it that way.  My intial reaction was that it wouldn't work at some of the smaller schools like Mayville State U.  Then I got to thinking that they have such a meager budget anyway.  They have to do all sorts of things just to raise enough money to take a 2 week road trip down south to play ball in February.  They have been a very excellent small college baseball program for decades.  

What about athletic scholarships?  What would replace them?  How would these smaller schools compete?  Take it a step further.....what says they have to even wear the college uniform/colors?  Instead of Mayville State Comets, why can't they be the "Mayville Goonies"?
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brlraceaddict
Reg. Jul 2006
Posted 2014-04-08 12:52 PM
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TXBO - 2014-04-08 10:41 AM
dhdqhllc - 2014-04-08 12:33 PM  collegiate sports should be privatized at every level and have to pay for themselves......collegiate sports have had a huge hand in completely ruining higher education
How so? 

Because it's all about revenue.  You have a powerhouse college football program - the students come - simple as that.  Our university which should be in the WAC is in Division 1A - simply for the revenue from TV.  Idaho has no business playing Nebraska, period.  Our AD thinks he should get more money so he doesn't have to schedule teams like Nebraska.  I could almost guarantee you the athletic budget is a mess and it's being subsidized somehow.  There are upgrades and upates to the athletic facilities (that no one else gets to use) but faculty and staff haven't had raises in 6 years, campus building maintenance is behind, and tuition is constantly on the rise - it's hard to justify paying for college football programs in light of all that.  But you have a big powerhouse program that generates revenue - it's certainly much more attainable. 
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Lobo
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2014-04-08 12:56 PM
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dhdqhllc - 2014-04-08 12:33 PM  collegiate sports should be privatized at every level and have to pay for themselves......collegiate sports have had a huge hand in completely ruining higher education

Used to be that 2 D's and an F would keep you on the football team and keep your scholarship. 

 
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dhdqhllc
Reg. Feb 2011
Posted 2014-04-08 1:01 PM
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TXBO - 2014-04-08 12:41 PM
dhdqhllc - 2014-04-08 12:33 PM  collegiate sports should be privatized at every level and have to pay for themselves......collegiate sports have had a huge hand in completely ruining higher education
How so? 
athletics at every college level are funded one by the taxpayer and second by the students.....even at top level high visibility programs, athletics sucks huge amounts of funding from both state, local and student resources.....ND for example is a prime example of how with athletic succes, education for all students become less and less of a priority and more and more of a priority to fund athletics....this comes at the expense of the students, where tuition has risen out of control in this state in order to support athletics....not only in regards to tuition but funding for actual education dries up in order to turn more and more towards athletics....honestly, my opinion is that as colleges have increasingly successful athletics, their education decreases accordingly....


adding.....this has nothing to do with the actual athletes....it has to do with administration, boosters, politicians, presidents, staff, business' that are all raking in huge amounts of money from the students and taxes to support their gluttony.....above and beyond what is generated by the athletic merchandising itself......

how many worthless bowl games can you actually have???


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Frosty
Reg. Jan 2004
Posted 2014-04-08 1:07 PM
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I think something needs to change because players can't work and play at the same time. Not all scholarships pay for everything! Having a son that will be playing college football next year, this concerns me and my pocketbook. Big colleges make a lot of money off their athletes, why not share the wealth?! Afterall, whose making the money for them? jmo
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dhdqhllc
Reg. Feb 2011
Posted 2014-04-08 1:10 PM
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Frosty - 2014-04-08 1:07 PM I think something needs to change because players can't work and play at the same time. Not all scholarships pay for everything! Having a son that will be playing college football next year, this concerns me and my pocketbook. Big colleges make a lot of money off their athletes, why not share the wealth?! Afterall, whose making the money for them? jmo

part of that is just BS......lots of college athletes work...... 
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