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Zanadoo88
Reg. Sep 2010
Posted 2014-04-09 9:49 PM
Subject: Stallion choice second thoughts :(



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So I have chosen to breed my mare to Slick By Design but part of me wonders if he really is a good idea or maybe he is a new fad that isn't worth all the hype. I do have to confess that I over think everything...like my brain really never shuts off. So I don't know if it is the price of the breeding fee and whatnot that is getting to me or what. What are your thoughts on him? Thanks!
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SwishMiss
Reg. Sep 2008
Posted 2014-04-09 10:11 PM
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His pedigree doesn't do much for ME, BUT he is very proven and he won a LOT in futurities so that says something about his mind frame as far as maturing and handling pressure at that age. I think in the future you'll see a lot of his babies coming up and doing well. His stud fee is fair also and you see some top names in the industry with babies of his on the ground this year. I think you did good. I'm the same can't sleep at night most times thinking about horse endeavors.
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barn goddess
Reg. Jun 2006
Posted 2014-04-09 11:16 PM
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Its April!!! You got to get the move on it. Lol
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Fancie_That_Chrome_
Reg. Mar 2012
Posted 2014-04-09 11:44 PM
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Na don't
I picked a stud in 2012 for my VERY special mare and after we bred her i started to have 2nd thoughts. BUT i got lucky enough to see the stud in PERSON and even got to RIDE HIM! and ever since that day I didnt regret it for a 2nd! and as of Feb 23, 2014 I have a beefy bay stud colt on the ground that is healthy as a horse and SMART!

ALSO Slick by design foals wont have one problem selling. So honestly if the foal isnt everything you dreamed, Post that puppy and it will be gone in a heart beat.

They definitely will have resale value as well if that is a concern of yours =)

And this is another reason why breeding for resale is good because if the foal isnt your cup of tea, you can guarantee it will sell for a good price and be sought after!
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Zanadoo88
Reg. Sep 2010
Posted 2014-04-09 11:47 PM
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barn goddess - 2014-04-09 11:16 PM

Its April!!! You got to get the move on it. Lol

haha thats why I'm feeling this way!!! My mare is headed to the vet next week!
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TheOldGrayMare
Reg. Nov 2009
Posted 2014-04-10 12:26 AM
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I'm breeding my Dash Ta Fame daughter out of a Leinster mare to Slick this year. I like the way he is put together and he is obviously a proven competitior. Check out his ad in barrel racing report and you can see all the high class mares people are breeding to this year. I don't think you could go wrong.
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aqhabarrelchic1
Reg. Apr 2005
Posted 2014-04-10 12:41 AM
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to be honest i liked him when he ran with the previous rider better but obviously he does great with all of his riders which gives him mega points lol.... and charlie and jason wouldnt have a stud that wasnt amazing... if i had a mare to breed and the money he would be the one i would breed her to 
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luckygirl04
Reg. Jan 2009
Posted 2014-04-10 1:15 AM
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I've seen him run a lot at rodeos and I really like him. He moves well and he's aggressive and has a lot of try and heart. He really impressed me. The colt won't have a problem selling if you decide later you don't like him. I bred my mare to Blazin Jetolena and got a really cool colt he's two now...love that stud. My second choice would be slick by design or something by corona cartel. Honestly I'm not really into what stud to breed to but I do like something that isn't huge, that moves good and has a lot of try whether on the track or in the arena. More than the stud however, I'm into what mare you're breeding to said stud? I bred my rodeo mare to BJ and I pick and choose what mares I breed I only breed the mares that are talented and that have a lot of heart and try, that preform well and that are aggressive. Jmo
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Ashton94
Reg. Feb 2014
Posted 2014-04-10 6:32 AM
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I would. I think his babies are going to be a good investment & sell for 3x or 4x his fee. I'm not really a fan of his pedigree either but he's definitely an athlete & looks like he enjoys running.

& he ran at the NFR as a 6 yo. that's pretty impressive!!!
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Longneck
Reg. Mar 2004
Posted 2014-04-10 8:50 AM
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 Don't do it.....


{I don't want him to gain too much popularity because I want to have a mare and breed to him in a few years!!!!!  I don't want his fee to get to get out of my budget!}

But if you do decide to go ahead and breed him and don't like your foal... DIBS
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Whiteboy
Reg. Jul 2012
Posted 2014-04-10 8:58 AM
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I cant wait to breed to him...next year.Β  The plan was this year, that got delayed.Β  With the mare power going to him, it would be very unlikly for him not to produce, especially considering what he has done himself.Β  I challenge you to find another horse that has done as much as he has at such a young age.Β  He is a super freak...in a good way!

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TheOldGrayMare
Reg. Nov 2009
Posted 2014-04-10 11:54 AM
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Whiteboy - 2014-04-10 6:58 AM

I cant wait to breed to him...next year.Β  The plan was this year, that got delayed.Β  With the mare power going to him if he doesn't produce, it would be very unlikly for him not to produce, especially considering what he has done himself.Β  I challenge you to find a horse that has done as much as he has at such a young age.Β  He is a super freak...in a good way!

Β YEAH, what he said
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3 To Go
Reg. Oct 2012
Posted 2014-04-10 2:14 PM
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It's always a gamble when you breed one. Yes Slick himself is very nice and proven, but if his babies will be remains yet to be seen. (There have been other sires not produce near what they were - ie, Secretariat). His maternal line doesn't do much for me, but word is his mother was an outstanding jackpot horse and just didn't haul much which is why you haven't really heard of her. The better question to ask would be does he compliment the mare I am breeding? If you have a 14.3 hand stocky mare, he probably wouldn't be my first choice! Obviously his siring ability won't be know for many years down the road.
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Zanadoo88
Reg. Sep 2010
Posted 2014-04-10 2:16 PM
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luckygirl04 - 2014-04-10 1:15 AM

I've seen him run a lot at rodeos and I really like him. He moves well and he's aggressive and has a lot of try and heart. He really impressed me. The colt won't have a problem selling if you decide later you don't like him. I bred my mare to Blazin Jetolena and got a really cool colt he's two now...love that stud. My second choice would be slick by design or something by corona cartel. Honestly I'm not really into what stud to breed to but I do like something that isn't huge, that moves good and has a lot of try whether on the track or in the arena. More than the stud however, I'm into what mare you're breeding to said stud? I bred my rodeo mare to BJ and I pick and choose what mares I breed I only breed the mares that are talented and that have a lot of heart and try, that preform well and that are aggressive. Jmo

I too agree with you on how the mare is extremely important. The mare I have has not been raced or shown so that is a bummer but I really like her temperament and I think she is put together well. I have a 3/4 sibling to her that I just love and am hoping to futurity next year. Also, the filly I got out of her last year has a great mind and is pretty good looking. The mare that I will be breeding is by Darkelly and out of a Beduino bred mare.
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Zanadoo88
Reg. Sep 2010
Posted 2014-04-10 2:18 PM
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Longneck - 2014-04-10 8:50 AM

Β Don't do it.....


{I don't want him to gain too much popularity because I want to have a mare and breed to him in a few years!!!!!Β  I don't want his fee to get to get out of my budget!}

But if you do decide to go ahead and breed him and don't like your foal... DIBS

Hahaha!! Ok I will keep you in mind when the foal finally shows up :)
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Reg. Apr 2006
Posted 2014-04-10 2:25 PM
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Whiteboy - 2014-04-10 8:58 AM I cant wait to breed to him...next year.  The plan was this year, that got delayed.  With the mare power going to him, it would be very unlikly for him not to produce, especially considering what he has done himself.  I challenge you to find another horse that has done as much as he has at such a young age.  He is a super freak...in a good way!

Definately agree.  Well said. 
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scamper
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2014-04-10 2:35 PM
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I have been around him with the orignial lady that hauled him. I didn't know he was a stallion for a long time. He was awesome when I seen him a few years ago and rode next to him and he never batted a eye.  I would breed to him if I had a mare. 
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BillTurner_Ocala
Reg. Apr 2014
Posted 2014-04-10 2:56 PM
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SwishMiss - 2014-04-09 2:11 PM His pedigree doesn't do much for ME, BUT he is very proven and he won a LOT in futurities so that says something about his mind frame as far as maturing and handling pressure at that age. I think in the future you'll see a lot of his babies coming up and doing well. His stud fee is fair also and you see some top names in the industry with babies of his on the ground this year. I think you did good. I'm the same can't sleep at night most times thinking about horse endeavors.

I am going to agree with SwishMiss... I have been around thoroughbread horses for over 15 years and the pedegree don't mean squat to me...but the horses performance is an clear indicator that he/she performs good and is worth breeding....  I say she also due to mares that perform good in barrel events, even though the papers say they come from poor background.... remember that not all horses are made equal so when you see that one special one that starts to make waves.. take advantage of that.. cuz you might miss out.

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perfectturns
Reg. Aug 2009
Posted 2014-04-10 3:53 PM
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BillTurner_Ocala - 2014-04-10 2:56 PM

SwishMiss - 2014-04-09 2:11 PM His pedigree doesn't do much for ME, BUT he is very proven and he won a LOT in futurities so that says something about his mind frame as far as maturing and handling pressure at that age. I think in the future you'll see a lot of his babies coming up and doing well. His stud fee is fair also and you see some top names in the industry with babies of his on the ground this year. I think you did good. I'm the same can't sleep at night most times thinking about horse endeavors.

I am going to agree with SwishMiss... I have been around thoroughbread horses for over 15 years and the pedegree don't mean squat to me...but the horses performance is an clear indicator that he/she performs good and is worth breeding.... Β I say she also due to mares that perform good in barrel events, even though the papers say they come from poor background.... remember that not all horses are made equal so when you see that one special one that starts to make waves.. take advantage of that.. cuz you might miss out.

BootStrapΒ 

WOW how does Designer Red not do anything for you?? Not only was he a proven barrel horse, he has also produced A LOT of very nice barrel horses! sheesh, you aren't giving him enough credit!
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TheOldGrayMare
Reg. Nov 2009
Posted 2014-04-10 4:08 PM
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perfectturns - 2014-04-10 1:53 PM
BillTurner_Ocala - 2014-04-10 2:56 PM
SwishMiss - 2014-04-09 2:11 PM His pedigree doesn't do much for ME, BUT he is very proven and he won a LOT in futurities so that says something about his mind frame as far as maturing and handling pressure at that age. I think in the future you'll see a lot of his babies coming up and doing well. His stud fee is fair also and you see some top names in the industry with babies of his on the ground this year. I think you did good. I'm the same can't sleep at night most times thinking about horse endeavors.
I am going to agree with SwishMiss... I have been around thoroughbread horses for over 15 years and the pedegree don't mean squat to me...but the horses performance is an clear indicator that he/she performs good and is worth breeding....  I say she also due to mares that perform good in barrel events, even though the papers say they come from poor background.... remember that not all horses are made equal so when you see that one special one that starts to make waves.. take advantage of that.. cuz you might miss out.



BootStrap 
WOW how does Designer Red not do anything for you?? Not only was he a proven barrel horse, he has also produced A LOT of very nice barrel horses! sheesh, you aren't giving him enough credit!

To be honest, I am not that big of a fan of Designer Red - but that is because I am not a fan of OTMR. I don't take away anything from him or what he produced, but I don't get along with the OTMR own get that I have ridden and been around. BUT being a fan of Slick and him only being a grandson of OTMR (and my resulting baby wil be great grand get), I'm willing to take a chance. Plus  truly honestly believe Slick will produce and the re-sale value on his babies will be great.
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