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HHTough
Reg. Mar 2014
Posted 2014-04-21 10:12 PM
Subject: Crate training?


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My puppy is going to make me mental. He's on his 7th night in the kennel and is still barking all night. 10weeks old. Mind you the kennel is in my room, no other place to put it. He will not stop. Has toys, blankets, treats but still scratches & howls ....ear plugs & sleep aid have been helping me get at least 5 hrs sleep. He goes out at 10:30, 2:30, and 5-6am. During the day he is with the other pups. I ignore the barks....just want him to chill! He'll sometimes go in there on his own to play.
Any advice? I look & feel like a zombie...
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Married2Rodeo
Reg. Apr 2013
Posted 2014-04-21 10:15 PM
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Hollow bone with peanut butter.
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missroselee
Reg. Jul 2006
Posted 2014-04-21 10:17 PM
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Have you tried playing a radio for him, or for you for that matter?  Have no idea if it would work but just a thought..... 
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phoenix
Reg. Feb 2009
Posted 2014-04-21 10:22 PM
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It will get better. Don't give in now or you will regret it. LOL
I gave my puppy some Rescue Remedy (natural) and/or put a drop of Peace and Calming Oil on her before she went in her crate every night and it helped a lot.
Good luck!
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blccwgl55
Reg. Dec 2012
Posted 2014-04-21 10:25 PM
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Every dog's different...I rocked mine to sleep when he was a puppy and stuck him in the kennel. Lol. Might not work depending on the breed and his size but mine's a Blue Heeler
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OhMax
Reg. Feb 2013
Posted 2014-04-21 10:46 PM
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Try a shirt you've worn a bit so he has something to snuggle with. Withhold water for at least an hour before bed and plaaay. It will be hard but keep h active for as long as possible before bed, even if he's trying to sleep pester him, keep him up.

Good luck, we are bringing home two heeler/boarder collie crosses in a couple weeks. Luckily we have a basement that their crate is in and my little dog doesn't know it yet, but he gets to play big brother babysitter (unless their whining makes him whine, then he'll probably be in bed with my lol). Kind of hoping they self sooth each other
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runnin hard
Reg. Jan 2005
Posted 2014-04-22 12:08 AM
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Married2Rodeo - 2014-04-21 10:15 PM Hollow bone with peanut butter.

This, but I suggest freezing it first.  Takes longer to chew out the peanut butter that way. 
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HHTough
Reg. Mar 2014
Posted 2014-04-22 5:26 AM
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I'll try the peanut butter trick. I always give him a BegginStip when i put him in there, he loves them. He ignores his minibone & toy though. Even the brief times he stops screaming, Ill peak over at him and he's still standing...more blankets?
Is the calming oil like lavender?
he had a really busy day yesterday so I kept trying to poke hkm & squek his toys at him, he kept nodding off but with me beibg annoying he didn't get much sleep!

Edited by HHTough 2014-04-22 5:29 AM
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mam0329
Reg. Jul 2009
Posted 2014-04-22 6:41 AM
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I just go a heeler last weekend. First we put in in another room, then the living room to sleep. He would cry for awhile. We finally put it beside our bed and now he knows it's for sleeping. I put a towel and a couple of his toys in there. He is only 61/2 weeks now and some nights he will get up once and other like four times to go potty. Good Luck, this is the hard part.
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CJE
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2014-04-22 8:29 AM
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Surely you're not suggesting puppys shouldn't be in our beds.............LOL


 
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vjls
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2014-04-22 10:59 AM
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i hink crates are mean  i don/t understand them i think torture when i see them no way in hell would  i have 1 
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docschic
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2014-04-22 12:04 PM
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vjls - 2014-04-22 10:59 AM i hink crates are mean  i don/t understand them i think torture when i see them no way in hell would  i have 1 

That's funny, my choc. lab uses his crate all the time.  When we are in the house he will go lay in his crate without being told and that is when we are watching tv.  He just gets up and goes to his crate.  He'll come out later but that's his "safe spot" I guess.  To each their own....

As for the OP....a thump on the crate and a NO or Quiet may help.  Are the other dogs allowed in the same room outside the crate that he is in?  I know we slept next to our crates for the first few nights until they learned it's bedtime.   
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brlraceaddict
Reg. Jul 2006
Posted 2014-04-22 12:36 PM
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Cover the crate up with a blanket so he cannot see out when it's time to go to bed.  He will whine for a few minutes but should stop.  It needs to be totally covered so they cannot see out and they will settle down.  Good luck. 
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TurnLane
Reg. May 2007
Posted 2014-04-22 2:08 PM
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vjls - 2014-04-22 10:59 AM i hink crates are mean  i don/t understand them i think torture when i see them no way in hell would  i have 1 

It is no different than a baby in a crib or a horse in a stall.  
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HHTough
Reg. Mar 2014
Posted 2014-04-22 8:57 PM
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The thump on the crate and NO doesn't work :/ I'll try putting a towel over the door, I only put him in when I'm going to bed so it's dark in the room anyway.
the other dogs stay upstairs, they belong to my roommate so they stay on her half of the house. My puppy goes up there while I'm at work & stays with his brothers.
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HHTough
Reg. Mar 2014
Posted 2014-04-23 12:56 AM
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I am at my wits end with that puppy. The towel over the cage gt me a poop smeared all over the kennel along with screaming all night (he could've held it, he pooped three times 2hrs ago). I gave in, put him upstairs and Im trying to not hurl because I can't hose the kennel till morning. That puppy is evil, pretty sure.
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pinx05
Reg. Nov 2009
Posted 2014-04-23 2:28 AM
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HHTough - 2014-04-23 12:56 AM I am at my wits end with that puppy. The towel over the cage gt me a poop smeared all over the kennel along with screaming all night (he could've held it, he pooped three times 2hrs ago). I gave in, put him upstairs and Im trying to not hurl because I can't hose the kennel till morning. That puppy is evil, pretty sure.
Or he is just a puppy... and maybe puppies aren't for you.

Do you ever work with him on staying in the crate during the day for shorter periods of time? Or did you just put him in one night and expect him to understand? Serious question.

Crate training (for any of my dogs) is a process. First teaching them to go in, and that it is a good place. Then getting them used to being in it for a short amount of time and teaching them that when they are quiet they can come out. Slowly leaving them in their crates for longer periods of time. Granted some dogs take to it like a duck to water, while others aren't as happy about being in a crate... but going slow with them I have never had one not get over the barking etc in a reasonable amount of time. 

He is still very young, he is going to have accidents.

ETA: Also, it looks like all day long he is with other dogs then at night he is seperated from them. That could be some of your problem also. Is he ever away from the other dogs when he isn't in his crate?


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OhMax
Reg. Feb 2013
Posted 2014-04-23 6:49 AM
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What is his daily schedule? Particularly around bedtime.

My little guy was a screamer too - still is when he's really distraught, a bop on the head usually convinces him the world isn't ending. We've been stepping up and working with him on things like being locked in the basement while we eat dinner, because when we get the puppies that's the plan. I didn't do everything right with my little one, and we don't intend to make the same mistakes with these.

I think he needs to be crated for at least a portion of the day. I think he needs to be crated for a little bit while you are home but doing other things. For example while you eat dinner in a different part of the house, crate him.

How big is the crate vs the puppy? He should have enough room to lay down and turn around and thats about it. Typically they will not use the bathroom where they have to sleep, so you give them enough room to sleep. If he has more room than that, fashion a divider of some sort, my crate came with one that snaps in, but a cardboard box that fills up the back of the crate would work as well.


You may have to powwow with the roommates and agree to put the crate somewhere else in the house that will work for all of you for a few weeks or a couple months. Puppies are hard and they affect everyone in the household. When I was raising my little guy in college we kept his crate in a closet, it was large and airy, but when we shut the door it was also dark and quiet and when it was quiet bedtime he settled down very quick. We'd set the crate in the living room during the day so when he was crated he could still socialize with the cat and such.
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HHTough
Reg. Mar 2014
Posted 2014-04-23 7:16 AM
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He usually is with his brothers from 6am-6pm, then he hangs out with me till bedtime. Generally follows me around with whatever I'm working on then we play, around 9pm he chews his toys on my bed till bedtime at 10:30.
The crate has a little more room than he needs. He's only gone potty in it once before, last night he was very distraught (so was i). Safe to say puppies probably aren't for me, although the dog trainer at my work wasn't sure why he wasn't getting over it like most puppies. Just because the puppy is making me half crazy from lack of sleep, what do you expect me to do? Give him back? He's been great for everything else.

Edited by HHTough 2014-04-23 7:30 AM
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TurnLane
Reg. May 2007
Posted 2014-04-23 8:43 AM
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If he was in fact distraught as you say- his tummy could have been upset? Which may explain him having to potty in his crate even though he went twice as you said.  
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