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     Location: Texas | do you absolutely have to have it tonight or can you call the vet tomorrow?
I'm not a huge fan of it because of the adverse reactions that can occur. Lots of people are given the drug without being told of what can happen when things go wrong. isn't pretty! That's why I would really wait until you can confirm with your vet how much exactly to give.
Can't you just give Ace this time until you can get ahold of your vet? |
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| casualdust07 - 2014-04-30 4:00 PM do you absolutely have to have it tonight or can you call the vet tomorrow? I'm not a huge fan of it because of the adverse reactions that can occur. Lots of people are given the drug without being told of what can happen when things go wrong. isn't pretty! That's why I would really wait until you can confirm with your vet how much exactly to give. Can't you just give Ace this time until you can get ahold of your vet? I'm confused as to why you would suggest ACE instead of Chlorpromazine when they are in the same family of drugs? Not being condescending just really curious. Personally I am more against running one on ACE because, although similar on the brain, it does affect their motor skills more.
As far as dosages, there are different mg's per ml of this drug dispensed to it's best to check with your vet as to what they gave you and how much to dose. I'm sorry, I'm not one to give drug dosage advice on a forum. Too many variables.
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     Location: Texas | barrelracinbroke - 2014-04-30 6:06 PM
casualdust07 - 2014-04-30 4:00 PM do you absolutely have to have it tonight or can you call the vet tomorrow? I'm not a huge fan of it because of the adverse reactions that can occur. Lots of people are given the drug without being told of what can happen when things go wrong. isn't pretty! That's why I would really wait until you can confirm with your vet how much exactly to give. Can't you just give Ace this time until you can get ahold of your vet?
I'm confused as to why you would suggest ACE instead of Chlorpromazine when they are in the same family of drugs? Not being condescending just really curious. Personally I am more against running one on ACE because, although similar on the brain, it does affect their motor skills more.
As far as dosages, there are different mg's per ml of this drug dispensed to it's best to check with your vet as to what they gave you and how much to dose. I'm sorry, I'm not one to give drug advice on a forum. Too many variables.
well for 1- Ace is FDA approved for equine use and Chlorpromazine is not.
2- Ace is shorter acting than chlorpromazine so if there is a reaction, it won't last as long
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| casualdust07 - 2014-04-30 4:12 PM barrelracinbroke - 2014-04-30 6:06 PM casualdust07 - 2014-04-30 4:00 PM do you absolutely have to have it tonight or can you call the vet tomorrow? I'm not a huge fan of it because of the adverse reactions that can occur. Lots of people are given the drug without being told of what can happen when things go wrong. isn't pretty! That's why I would really wait until you can confirm with your vet how much exactly to give. Can't you just give Ace this time until you can get ahold of your vet? I'm confused as to why you would suggest ACE instead of Chlorpromazine when they are in the same family of drugs? Not being condescending just really curious. Personally I am more against running one on ACE because, although similar on the brain, it does affect their motor skills more.
As far as dosages, there are different mg's per ml of this drug dispensed to it's best to check with your vet as to what they gave you and how much to dose. I'm sorry, I'm not one to give drug advice on a forum. Too many variables.
well for 1- Ace is FDA approved for equine use and Chlorpromazine is not. 2- Ace is shorter acting than chlorpromazine so if there is a reaction, it won't last as long
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     Location: Texas | barrelracinbroke - 2014-04-30 6:20 PM
casualdust07 - 2014-04-30 4:12 PM barrelracinbroke - 2014-04-30 6:06 PM casualdust07 - 2014-04-30 4:00 PM do you absolutely have to have it tonight or can you call the vet tomorrow? I'm not a huge fan of it because of the adverse reactions that can occur. Lots of people are given the drug without being told of what can happen when things go wrong. isn't pretty! That's why I would really wait until you can confirm with your vet how much exactly to give. Can't you just give Ace this time until you can get ahold of your vet? I'm confused as to why you would suggest ACE instead of Chlorpromazine when they are in the same family of drugs? Not being condescending just really curious. Personally I am more against running one on ACE because, although similar on the brain, it does affect their motor skills more.
As far as dosages, there are different mg's per ml of this drug dispensed to it's best to check with your vet as to what they gave you and how much to dose. I'm sorry, I'm not one to give drug advice on a forum. Too many variables.
well for 1- Ace is FDA approved for equine use and Chlorpromazine is not. 2- Ace is shorter acting than chlorpromazine so if there is a reaction, it won't last as long
Hmmm, interesting. Thanks, I was just curious.
You're welcome. There's a place for everything. I have had a horse who had a physical problem, mentally was a mess after we fixed the problem, and looked into this to help him out.
Vet suggested ace first as the chances for adverse reactions were lower, and hesitated on chlorpromazine or fluphenazine as the reactions- *if* they happen, are really severe. But, they are definitely on a list to use.. he just discloses the potential for an issue with them.
I've tried guanabenz but not sure how great the results were. I found I had to be spot on with the timing when giving it or I would miss the boat and he would duck.
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| casualdust07 - 2014-04-30 4:30 PM barrelracinbroke - 2014-04-30 6:20 PM casualdust07 - 2014-04-30 4:12 PM barrelracinbroke - 2014-04-30 6:06 PM casualdust07 - 2014-04-30 4:00 PM do you absolutely have to have it tonight or can you call the vet tomorrow? I'm not a huge fan of it because of the adverse reactions that can occur. Lots of people are given the drug without being told of what can happen when things go wrong. isn't pretty! That's why I would really wait until you can confirm with your vet how much exactly to give. Can't you just give Ace this time until you can get ahold of your vet? I'm confused as to why you would suggest ACE instead of Chlorpromazine when they are in the same family of drugs? Not being condescending just really curious. Personally I am more against running one on ACE because, although similar on the brain, it does affect their motor skills more.
As far as dosages, there are different mg's per ml of this drug dispensed to it's best to check with your vet as to what they gave you and how much to dose. I'm sorry, I'm not one to give drug advice on a forum. Too many variables.
well for 1- Ace is FDA approved for equine use and Chlorpromazine is not. 2- Ace is shorter acting than chlorpromazine so if there is a reaction, it won't last as long Hmmm, interesting. Thanks, I was just curious.
You're welcome. There's a place for everything. I have had a horse who had a physical problem, mentally was a mess after we fixed the problem, and looked into this to help him out. Vet suggested ace first as the chances for adverse reactions were lower, and hesitated on chlorpromazine or fluphenazine as the reactions- *if* they happen, are really severe. But, they are definitely on a list to use.. he just discloses the potential for an issue with them. I've tried guanabenz but not sure how great the results were. I found I had to be spot on with the timing when giving it or I would miss the boat and he would duck.
I've had luck with guana benz to help a bleeder (in addition to some other therapies) but I haven't used it in a case like this. I know others who do with some success.
I will not use Fluphenazine either. I haven't since the late 90's and partly for reasons you stated earlier. Being, the time it lasts in the system if there's a reaction. Can be some scary stuff!! |
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| I edited my post from earlier because I meant to say I'm not willing to discuss drug "dosage" advice on a public forum. There's too many variables on different strengths, forms, etc.
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   Location: Middle Tennessee | Start with less and move up as needed. I used 1 to start with. Eventually he didn't need it anymore. I feel as though it is perfectly ok to use if you have ruledout pain and need to calm your horses mind. I did and it worked wonders and now he is back to normal and doesn't even need it. |
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| Yes pain has been ruled out. I waited amd called him this morning and he said 1cc and go to 1.5 if needed. I'm not running him right now, just trying to help him over his anxiousness from his accident. So once I get him in I'm just going to walk/trot him. Our hopes are that once he realizes the announcer and arena aren't going to "get" him, he will go back like he was before wreck, and I won't have to use anything. Thanks everyone.
Btw, we tried Ace first and it didn't affect him at all. Stood half asleep at trailer but there was no difference in alley. |
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         Location: Bandera, TX | bris2125 - 2014-05-01 12:09 PM Yes pain has been ruled out. I waited amd called him this morning and he said 1cc and go to 1.5 if needed. I'm not running him right now, just trying to help him over his anxiousness from his accident. So once I get him in I'm just going to walk/trot him. Our hopes are that once he realizes the announcer and arena aren't going to "get" him, he will go back like he was before wreck, and I won't have to use anything. Thanks everyone. Btw, we tried Ace first and it didn't affect him at all. Stood half asleep at trailer but there was no difference in alley.
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casualdust07 - 2014-04-30 4:00 PM do you absolutely have to have it tonight or can you call the vet tomorrow? I'm not a huge fan of it because of the adverse reactions that can occur. Lots of people are given the drug without being told of what can happen when things go wrong. isn't pretty! That's why I would really wait until you can confirm with your vet how much exactly to give. Can't you just give Ace this time until you can get ahold of your vet?
I'm confused as to why you would suggest ACE instead of Chlorpromazine when they are in the same family of drugs? Not being condescending just really curious. Personally I am more against running one on ACE because, although similar on the brain, it does affect their motor skills more.
As far as dosages, there are different mg's per ml of this drug dispensed to it's best to check with your vet as to what they gave you and how much to dose. I'm sorry, I'm not one to give drug advice on a forum. Too many variables.
well for 1- Ace is FDA approved for equine use and Chlorpromazine is not.
2- Ace is shorter acting than chlorpromazine so if there is a reaction, it won't last as long
My vet also told me it wasn't approved for equines!!! He rattled off a whole bunch of things it could cause, I didn't like any of them, so we don't use it.
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| lhighquality - 2014-05-01 3:26 PM casualdust07 - 2014-04-30 6:12 PM barrelracinbroke - 2014-04-30 6:06 PM casualdust07 - 2014-04-30 4:00 PM do you absolutely have to have it tonight or can you call the vet tomorrow? I'm not a huge fan of it because of the adverse reactions that can occur. Lots of people are given the drug without being told of what can happen when things go wrong. isn't pretty! That's why I would really wait until you can confirm with your vet how much exactly to give. Can't you just give Ace this time until you can get ahold of your vet? I'm confused as to why you would suggest ACE instead of Chlorpromazine when they are in the same family of drugs? Not being condescending just really curious. Personally I am more against running one on ACE because, although similar on the brain, it does affect their motor skills more.
As far as dosages, there are different mg's per ml of this drug dispensed to it's best to check with your vet as to what they gave you and how much to dose. I'm sorry, I'm not one to give drug advice on a forum. Too many variables.
well for 1- Ace is FDA approved for equine use and Chlorpromazine is not. 2- Ace is shorter acting than chlorpromazine so if there is a reaction, it won't last as long My vet also told me it wasn't approved for equines!!! He rattled off a whole bunch of things it could cause, I didn't like any of them, so we don't use it.
previcoxx isn't labeled for equines either- sometimes you need to think beyond the FDA and their financial agenda- |
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