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My Heelers are Heroes
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| My old guy has been barefoot since probably December with no problems.
My neice has decided she wants to ride again and she's about to outgrow her pony so she is moving up to my horse.
Since for now she is just riding around here and we have no rocks and he's already doing fine barefoot, on Friday my farrier suggested just barefoot trimming him.
Since Friday the horse has been lame on basically all 4 feet. He's having me paint Reducine on daily to toughen up his feet but after 5 days I'm not getting any results from that. Not even sure why his feet need toughened when he was already barefoot and sound and we have no rock or gravel in our ground.
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 Miss Laundry Misshap
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| Sounds like he trimmed him too short. Give him a week off and see if he comes out of it. |
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 Hog Tie My Mojo
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Location: Opelousas, LA | Did he pare any sole out? |
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  Northern Chocolate Queen
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Location: ND | The barefoot trim didn't fail, your farrier did. If this horse has been sound since December your farrier most likely dug a bunch of sole out & that is why the horse is sore. |
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 Serious Snap Trapper
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Location: In The Snow, AZ | You reeeeally have to take the trimming slooooow when they are coming off of having shoes. The moment you get too aggressive, the horses can't walk. When I first got my paint a few years back, the farrier pulled the remaining shoe and did a barefoot trim, per my request. She was 4 legged lame for over a month, in soft ground. It takes a long time to adjust a horse to an ideal barefoot trim. That's why some call it a "barefoot journey". But, it can be done, and it is beneficial to many horses.
Maybe consider picking him up some renegade hoof boots, or some sort of thereaputic easy boot. There are many routes to make him more comfortable, but those are the 2 I have had positive experiences with.
Good luck. |
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My Heelers are Heroes
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| Barnmom - 2014-05-06 9:40 AM Did he pare any sole out?
I didn't notice it but something went wrong because with a normal everyday trim he's fine. He's been barefoot in the past for several months and then has been barefoot since December and has always been fine with it. These were always just regular trims. Heck I've even ran him barefoot, I was just picky about where I took him so I knew there would be no rock or gravel. |
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My Heelers are Heroes
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| ~BINGO~ - 2014-05-06 9:45 AM You reeeeally have to take the trimming slooooow when they are coming off of having shoes. The moment you get too aggressive, the horses can't walk. When I first got my paint a few years back, the farrier pulled the remaining shoe and did a barefoot trim, per my request. She was 4 legged lame for over a month, in soft ground. It takes a long time to adjust a horse to an ideal barefoot trim. That's why some call it a "barefoot journey". But, it can be done, and it is beneficial to many horses.
Maybe consider picking him up some renegade hoof boots, or some sort of thereaputic easy boot. There are many routes to make him more comfortable, but those are the 2 I have had positive experiences with.
Good luck.
He didn't have shoes on. He just had a regular normal trim and was sound. It was time for a trim and we were going to start legging him up for my neice. Farrier suggested the barefoot trim. Big mistake! I'm hearing it makes alot of horses lame. |
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 Dog Resuce Agent
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Location: southeast Texas | Have you put him on bute? IMHO if you can find some Jim Rickens that works wonders to toughen em up quick. Wear gloves, that stuff stains! |
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The Advice Guru
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| cinch - 2014-05-06 9:52 AM
~BINGO~ - 2014-05-06 9:45 AM You reeeeally have to take the trimming slooooow when they are coming off of having shoes. The moment you get too aggressive, the horses can't walk. When I first got my paint a few years back, the farrier pulled the remaining shoe and did a barefoot trim, per my request. She was 4 legged lame for over a month, in soft ground. It takes a long time to adjust a horse to an ideal barefoot trim. That's why some call it a "barefoot journey". But, it can be done, and it is beneficial to many horses.
Maybe consider picking him up some renegade hoof boots, or some sort of thereaputic easy boot. There are many routes to make him more comfortable, but those are the 2 I have had positive experiences with.
Good luck.
He didn't have shoes on. He just had a regular normal trim and was sound. It was time for a trim and we were going to start legging him up for my neice. Farrier suggested the barefoot trim. Big mistake! I'm hearing it makes alot of horses lame.
Barefoot trimming doesn't make the horse lame, the farriers do.
What I have learned is that a certified barefoot trimmer to stay certified have to do continual education and hours yearly.
A regular farrier can go to a 2 day course and call themselves a farrier.
I would want to know what credentials the person you had. |
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 A Somebody to Everybody
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Sounds like to me he got trimed to short, its going to take at least another week are two for your horse to grow out of this, the next time tell your farrier dont take as much off. I bet if you looked at the bottom of his feet when he got threw triming you could see the pink line between the sole and hoof wall where he got to close. |
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Location: Texas | I would be interested in hearing your farrier's defination and what he does different when doing what he calls a "regular" trim and a "barefoot" trim. This would probably explain a lot. |
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 Warmblood with Wings
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Location: Florida.. | in retrospect though a bare foot trimmer should know to take it slow.. my guess is he doesnt know how to do it correctly..personally I would have left it alone.. and just went barefoot regular trim.Unless he specailizes in that barefoot trim he may not do it correctly..
Some people I know tried it with a specialized trimmer and the horses were dead lame for 4 months..
if he just trimmed to short might be a week or so .. paint turpentine on it.
Edited by Bibliafarm 2014-05-06 10:43 AM
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Location: Do I hear Banjos? | We had one coming off shoes that got so sore after the trim that he didn't know which leg to limp on. He was lame on all 4. It was warm weather and I worried he'd stand somewhere and not go drink/eat. So...I applied Magic Cushion and put on the Soft Rides on the front. (Since most weight is carried in front and I only had the two boots). That did the trick. He was MUCH more comfortable almost immediately. We kept him like that for about a week. He was fine after that.
I really really like the Magic Cushion for it's anti-inflammatory properties. |
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Location: Mendenhall, Ms | When taking horse from shoes to barefoot. Pull the shoes and basically leave the foot alone. If you need to smooth anything up, do it from the topside. About the only thing I trim from the bottom in the beginning is frog and there has to be alot of frog there for me to do that. I think your farrier took too much sole off or loaded the horse on his sole too much or a combination. |
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 Forever Young
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Location: relocated to Texas | Nateracer - 2014-05-07 8:33 AM Sounds like he trimmed him too short. Give him a week off and see if he comes out of it.
Exactly. Sounds like he trimmed him too short. Paint the bottom of his feet and his toe area and just give him some time. I have had this happen before, one trimmer here can be aggressive is taking them back too far and it results in a lame horse. |
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Forever Young
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Location: relocated to Texas | cheryl makofka - 2014-05-07 9:30 AM cinch - 2014-05-06 9:52 AM ~BINGO~ - 2014-05-06 9:45 AM You reeeeally have to take the trimming slooooow when they are coming off of having shoes. The moment you get too aggressive, the horses can't walk. When I first got my paint a few years back, the farrier pulled the remaining shoe and did a barefoot trim, per my request. She was 4 legged lame for over a month, in soft ground. It takes a long time to adjust a horse to an ideal barefoot trim. That's why some call it a "barefoot journey". But, it can be done, and it is beneficial to many horses.
Maybe consider picking him up some renegade hoof boots, or some sort of thereaputic easy boot. There are many routes to make him more comfortable, but those are the 2 I have had positive experiences with.
Good luck. He didn't have shoes on. He just had a regular normal trim and was sound. It was time for a trim and we were going to start legging him up for my neice. Farrier suggested the barefoot trim. Big mistake! I'm hearing it makes alot of horses lame.
This is exactly right. The barefoot trim became popular because people were having good results with it. Then a lot of farriers jumped on the bandwagon without the proper training. I have a certified trimmer in Iowa that did my horses and one here in Texas. Both are outstanding. I know of a few that are not certified, didn't take the training just read a book and started doing it. They make the horses sore, usually by being too aggressive and taking off too much toe and/or not getting the foot properly balanced. My horses have done very well with the barefoot trim because I use certified trimmers. |
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Hungarian Midget Woman
Location: Midwest | I'd try bute for a few days and some Venice of Turpentine, magic cusion, or the soft rides if you have them. Hopefully he will grow out soon. Since he was previously trimmed by the same farrier and was prev fine, he probably just got him too short this time. I'd let him know this happened so he can avoid it in the future. |
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Location: Kansas | SaraJean - 2014-05-06 9:41 AM The barefoot trim didn't fail, your farrier did. If this horse has been sound since December your farrier most likely dug a bunch of sole out & that is why the horse is sore.
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Location: Paradise , tx | hoofs_in_motion - 2014-05-06 1:04 PM SaraJean - 2014-05-06 9:41 AM The barefoot trim didn't fail, your farrier did. If this horse has been sound since December your farrier most likely dug a bunch of sole out & that is why the horse is sore. I agree
I do too |
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My Heelers are Heroes
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| I think he shoes for enough big names that he is qualifed. These people would go to someone else if his work was not good because before he moved here they did haul several hours to someone else.
He does barefoot trims for other people and some have told me their horses also got sore for afew days and I found a blog somewhere and soreness must be common because it was talked about alot and these were posts from all over the country.
If I survive this one from now on I want a ordinary everyday trim. lol |
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