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Location: ohio-in my own little world with pretty ponies :) | Soo our new rescue(we've had about 3 weeks) went after one of my other dogs. I had just given him a piece of hot dog with his meds in it so I don't know if that triggered it. Then about 20 minutes later he went after my other dog while they were outside playing. Idk what exactly he was doing but he jumped on them and they would squeal! He was punished both times and told to go lay down. I've never had a dog act like this!!
In the time that we have had him I haven't noticed him doing anything like this. Idk I'm looking for advice suggestions, anything! The last thing I want is an aggressive dog! With all of his issues he would probably just have to be put down and I don't want to have to do that just yet. |
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Location: Florida.. | Id find a new home. The truth is your dogs rely on YOU to protect them.. to bring in someone new to their safe place (home) that attacks them isnt fair..its not fair to them.. |
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| Bibliafarm - 2014-05-06 7:19 PM Id find a new home. The truth is your dogs rely on YOU to protect them.. to bring in someone new to their safe place (home) that attacks them isnt fair..its not fair to them..
I agree with this post...
My hubby brought home a stranded puppy one year... we had her from the time she was 6 weeks old till she was 1 year old... and she flipped a switch and pounched on my aussie and had ahold of his jugular... i had to beat her off with a shovel and my hubby got rid of her that night. my poor aussie was in bad shape and couldnt even move. i had to carry him out to go potty for several days and he is about 75 lbs!
So moral of story... at first sign of aggression... get rid of it! i wouldn't be able to live with myself if that dog would of attacked someones child. |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | Kgirl - 2014-05-07 7:38 AM Bibliafarm - 2014-05-06 7:19 PM Id find a new home. The truth is your dogs rely on YOU to protect them.. to bring in someone new to their safe place (home) that attacks them isnt fair..its not fair to them.. I agree with this post...
My hubby brought home a stranded puppy one year... we had her from the time she was 6 weeks old till she was 1 year old... and she flipped a switch and pounched on my aussie and had ahold of his jugular... i had to beat her off with a shovel and my hubby got rid of her that night. my poor aussie was in bad shape and couldnt even move. i had to carry him out to go potty for several days and he is about 75 lbs!
So moral of story... at first sign of aggression... get rid of it! i wouldn't be able to live with myself if that dog would of attacked someones child.
I agree......get rid of it....give it to a home with NO other animals. Until then....KEEP IT ISOLATED from your other dogs! I don't know why you would even consider keeping it with them????? |
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| Aggressive behavior in dogs is usually from one dog trying to be Alpha. Your new rescue is probably trying to be "in charge" but personally, I wouldn't keep a dog around that doesn't just meld into the pack.
We've got 8 dogs and no matter who we put where, (6 are hunting hounds, 2 are house dogs) all of them will accept another dog without a fight. Yes, they might growl or snap in warning when they get irritated, but no one flat out attacks another one. |
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| Sorry I can't believe how people will just dispose or dump their dog problem on someone else. This is why SPCA is over crowded, and dogs are euthanized daily.
I believe if you take the animal in, it be ones your responsibility.
Good for you for asking for help. I would suggest looking into dog training courses, there are some that work with aggressive management. Read Cesar Milian's books, watch his show.
There are also people who train dogs, you can look into a dog trainer. There is one lady by me who charges 1000/month and she can teach a dog to duck in the car when you look that way to see through the window.
If this dog was a stray, he probably had to fight for his food, and probably reverted back to instinct when he smelled the food.
You might try having both dogs sit, have someone else have the aggressive one on a leash just in case, the person can give him a jerk if he displays any aggression. Try giving the medication to the first dog, by talking to the aggressive dog giving positive reinforcement to keep him sitting then reward him with a treat.
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| I agree completely with the above post. Don't just give up on him after an incident. YOU have to be their alpha. My dad went all Cesar Milan crazy and we have a pitbull and a mastiff/lab that will get into it sometimes, but the second he (or occasionally me) asserts himself in the situation, both dogs are upside down on their backs. The key is calm and submissiveness. Don't give up on him - if he was a rescue he is going to have some other fears that you might not know about that could be triggering his behavior. He isn't going to be perfect, but if you dump him on someone else, that dog could end up being put down, which isn't fair to him for just being a dog. Work with him and the other dog and try to be their pack leader! Definitely research Cesar's stuff!
Please don't just give up on him (: |
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| If you isolate it, it's not going to allow it to become adapted to social environments and will never know how to be in those situations. Then when he is put in with other dogs, that's when harm occurs. |
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| This!! I agree with the above 2 posters. Sometimes it takes work but you can do it. I applaud you for taking this baby in! 
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Location: ohio-in my own little world with pretty ponies :) | Thank you to the ones that are encouraging! He is bigger than all the other dogs and he could easily hurt them if he tried. He just growled and jumped on them(which isn't good but it could have been worse) the first situation was the treat. The puppy cam up to him and got in his face while he was eating it and then he did it. The next one was over a tennis ball. He is on meds and is feeling better. The other dogs bullied him a little at first so I don't know if he is telling them he isn't going to let them bully him anymore. He won't be dumped and I'm not giving up on him. Not long after it happened they were all outside playing together like normal. Someone is always home to see what's going on. I'm going to find a trainer. |
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Location: ohio-in my own little world with pretty ponies :) | I completely understand that this is serious and will be controlled...if not then he will have to find somewhere else to go |
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Location: CA | Dog behavior can be interesting. Often we put the blame on the dog that seems to be the attacker. However, if you watch very closely you'll often times see the dog being attacked instigating the attack by growling very softly or posturing ever so slightly. It would not be unheard of for the original dogs to be trying to assert dominance over the new dog. Keep a sharp eye. You might be surprised by what you see. To have a happy pack the only leader can be you, no matter what order the dogs arrived in. |
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| cheryl makofka - 2014-05-07 10:57 AM Sorry I can't believe how people will just dispose or dump their dog problem on someone else. This is why SPCA is over crowded, and dogs are euthanized daily. I believe if you take the animal in, it be ones your responsibility. Good for you for asking for help. I would suggest looking into dog training courses, there are some that work with aggressive management. Read Cesar Milian's books, watch his show. There are also people who train dogs, you can look into a dog trainer. There is one lady by me who charges 1000/month and she can teach a dog to duck in the car when you look that way to see through the window. If this dog was a stray, he probably had to fight for his food, and probably reverted back to instinct when he smelled the food. You might try having both dogs sit, have someone else have the aggressive one on a leash just in case, the person can give him a jerk if he displays any aggression. Try giving the medication to the first dog, by talking to the aggressive dog giving positive reinforcement to keep him sitting then reward him with a treat.
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | achildres - 2014-05-07 11:03 AM I agree completely with the above post. Don't just give up on him after an incident. YOU have to be their alpha. My dad went all Cesar Milan crazy and we have a pitbull and a mastiff/lab that will get into it sometimes, but the second he (or occasionally me) asserts himself in the situation, both dogs are upside down on their backs. The key is calm and submissiveness. Don't give up on him - if he was a rescue he is going to have some other fears that you might not know about that could be triggering his behavior. He isn't going to be perfect, but if you dump him on someone else, that dog could end up being put down, which isn't fair to him for just being a dog. Work with him and the other dog and try to be their pack leader! Definitely research Cesar's stuff! Please don't just give up on him (: Well.......that's just "peachy"...... as long as YOU are THERE to separate them...... what happens if you are not there????
There is certainly nothing wrong with "re-homing" this dog to someone who has no other pets.
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Location: Florida.. | My thought is this and I have taken in rescues so I totally KNOW not to dispose of a dog.. But I am also thinking of the other 2 that were there first .. She either needs to be there to monitor them 24/7 or seperate them when she isnt. period.. I know the "issues " of rescues.. and alpha .. I know she cant monitor them 24/7 .. the others arent as large and it seems to me that its not fair to them to live in fear.. so would i find a more one dog suitable home and someone that can work with dog to acclimate it .. YES..if she has time to do it thats super..
Just another thing.. overcrowded shelters are due to BREEDING.so stop breeding.. and tossing them away..
I hope you can get this dog over all this and become part of your family.. but I also hope you protect your smaller dogs..and we dont see a thread later about him being injured.. good luck. |
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Location: Near San Antonio, TX | Kgirl - 2014-05-07 7:38 AM Bibliafarm - 2014-05-06 7:19 PM Id find a new home. The truth is your dogs rely on YOU to protect them.. to bring in someone new to their safe place (home) that attacks them isnt fair..its not fair to them.. I agree with this post...
My hubby brought home a stranded puppy one year... we had her from the time she was 6 weeks old till she was 1 year old... and she flipped a switch and pounched on my aussie and had ahold of his jugular... i had to beat her off with a shovel and my hubby got rid of her that night. my poor aussie was in bad shape and couldnt even move. i had to carry him out to go potty for several days and he is about 75 lbs!
So moral of story... at first sign of aggression... get rid of it! i wouldn't be able to live with myself if that dog would of attacked someones child.
I had a really, really sweet rotty mix show up at my gate. I am a softie, so of course I gave her food and water, and of course she didn't leave. Real, real sweet dog to people, but she attached my then over 10 year old blue heeler that was the love of my life/sidekick. She ripped a hole in Smokeys sholder so big when I went to clean it out with the hose, water went in the top hole and just flowed out the bottom hole. It was a very bad wound. My husband got rid of her that day. I know dogs dont rationalize and think like we do, but I open my home, and give this dog a warm place to stay and food, and she disrespects my best friend like that... nope. Gonner.
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| My brother has 2 rescue dogs and one of them was "too much to handle" according to all the previous "adopters" that returned her to the shelter. She was possessive of her things and would go after his other dog. Heck..we watched the dog for a few months (he's in the Army and was in training) and she even came after our dog once. I wasn't a huge fan of her at first because of her different behavior, but after a lot of hard work and just spending time with her to help her get comfortable and to feel loved, she turned into a sweet dog. I don't understand how people can just give up on an animal so easily. This poor dog was returned so many times that I don't blame her one bit for being that way!
So DON'T give up on your new rescue! It'll get better! It'll take lots of time but you can do it! Just make sure to keep them separate when you're not around to monitor the behavior!
God Bless you for RESCUING!
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| I have five dogs, and two of them battle for alpha and have done so for the past eight years!!
You just have to manage it. These things work for me:
1.) FEED THEM SEPERATE, no treats or food together.
2.) Give them each plenty of attention, but not always in front of the other again, seperate.
3.) When one seems to get aggressive we punish, but we also seperate the dogs for a period of time.
My rotti pit bull mix is the alpha and my heeler really wants to be. The last time we had an issue our rotti literally tried to kill our heeler and drag him off! We broke up the fight and just kept them seperate and since there have been no issues.
In the past we have delt with bloody ears and a few cuts/scrapes (all things my heeler gets...normally the rotti doesn't get hurt).
Again-we just monitor very closely. |
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| Well seeing as they live in my house where people are generally present, this issue never comes up. When we leave, we don't trust them to not pee and poo in the house so we put them in kennels. Oh, and they never actually *fight* they just rough house. My mastiff/lab was always aggressive towards strange dogs because she WAS a rescue that had NEVER been socialized. Now that we make her deal with the pitbull, she is much more pleasant.
I think the worst thing to do with a timid rescue is to keep it isolated from other dogs. it makes the situation worse.
I don't know why people give on rescues so quickly. |
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Location: Florida.. | achildres - 2014-05-07 7:23 PM Well seeing as they live in my house where people are generally present, this issue never comes up. When we leave, we don't trust them to not pee and poo in the house so we put them in kennels. Oh, and they never actually *fight* they just rough house. My mastiff/lab was always aggressive towards strange dogs because she WAS a rescue that had NEVER been socialized. Now that we make her deal with the pitbull, she is much more pleasant. I think the worst thing to do with a timid rescue is to keep it isolated from other dogs. it makes the situation worse. I don't know why people give on rescues so quickly.
I dont think they do.. their are situations that it is best for all dogs to be put in a one dog home or even a no child home.. unless supervised at all times. I am a huge rescue advocate but also have seen many "DOGS" rescue or owned .. harm other dogs and my response is same.. seperate.. acclimate or put in a one dog home .. its called being responsible.. not tossing them away.. I never said take to shelter.. or dispose of.. this dog.. or I dont think I did? |
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