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Location: Oz, Kansas | I started my daughter's horse on Forco about 4 weeks ago & we've both noticed that he's become hot headed, humping up to buck & lunging when she's warming him up. We haven't changed anything else & he's not injured, though I am getting to get a chiro appt just to make sure he's not out. Today he stomped my dog, kicked at the shoer & was just an a$$, which is not normal. She rode him at a fun show Sunday & he was horrible in the warm up pen but had a nice run.
Has anyone else had any issues? She's giving him 2oz a day, I may have her cut that in half & see if it changes his demeanor at all. |
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Location: Kentucky | I started Forco a few weeks ago on my broodmare and she is doing really well on it. You may want to message Kathie Bitzer to see if it can make horses hot.... my guess would be no, since it's a probiotic only? |
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Location: Oz, Kansas | Murphy - 2014-05-20 1:53 PM I started Forco a few weeks ago on my broodmare and she is doing really well on it. You may want to message Kathie Bitzer to see if it can make horses hot.... my guess would be no, since it's a probiotic only?
I'm thinking it may be too much green grass. He looks fantastic on it & I was really hoping it wasn't that. |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | I've never known FORCO to make a horse hot. Was your horse dull and lethargic before going on the FORCO? I could see a horse feeling good if they were having stomach issues. Take him off of it and see what happens. That is the only way you are going to know if it is the FORCO. |
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Location: Oz, Kansas | Nevertooold - 2014-05-20 2:29 PM I've never known FORCO to make a horse hot. Was your horse dull and lethargic before going on the FORCO? I could see a horse feeling good if they were having stomach issues. Take him off of it and see what happens. That is the only way you are going to know if it is the FORCO.
He's never been dull & lethargic. I'm thinking/hoping it's too much green grass so I'm going to start limiting his time out to pasture. The grass is really thick right now & he's been turned out more than usual because we've been so busy. |
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I Prefer to Live in Fantasy Land
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | lookout hill - 2014-05-20 3:28 PM Murphy - 2014-05-20 1:53 PM I started Forco a few weeks ago on my broodmare and she is doing really well on it. You may want to message Kathie Bitzer to see if it can make horses hot.... my guess would be no, since it's a probiotic only? I'm thinking it may be too much green grass. He looks fantastic on it & I was really hoping it wasn't that.
Pull him off of either the FORCO or the Grass but if you pull him off both you're not going to know which one if either was making him "hot". |
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I Prefer to Live in Fantasy Land
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | lookout hill - 2014-05-20 3:37 PM Nevertooold - 2014-05-20 2:29 PM I've never known FORCO to make a horse hot. Was your horse dull and lethargic before going on the FORCO? I could see a horse feeling good if they were having stomach issues. Take him off of it and see what happens. That is the only way you are going to know if it is the FORCO. He's never been dull & lethargic. I'm thinking/hoping it's too much green grass so I'm going to start limiting his time out to pasture. The grass is really thick right now & he's been turned out more than usual because we've been so busy.
I remember years ago I bought a young horse that was laid back. He looked wormy so I did a power pac and until he got use to feeling good...he was a royal pain in the butt...If I could..I would have fed him worms. LOL
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Water Weight Barbie
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Location: Oz, Kansas | Nevertooold - 2014-05-20 2:44 PM lookout hill - 2014-05-20 3:37 PM Nevertooold - 2014-05-20 2:29 PM I've never known FORCO to make a horse hot. Was your horse dull and lethargic before going on the FORCO? I could see a horse feeling good if they were having stomach issues. Take him off of it and see what happens. That is the only way you are going to know if it is the FORCO. He's never been dull & lethargic. I'm thinking/hoping it's too much green grass so I'm going to start limiting his time out to pasture. The grass is really thick right now & he's been turned out more than usual because we've been so busy.
I remember years ago I bought a young horse that was laid back. He looked wormy so I did a power pac and until he got use to feeling good...he was a royal pain in the butt...If I could..I would have fed him worms. LOL
He was a first class a$$ on Sunday while she was warming him up & today stomped my dog, tried to kick the shoer & bit my daughter. The shoer ended up lunging him until he was too tired to cause a problem. |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | lookout hill - 2014-05-20 4:01 PM Nevertooold - 2014-05-20 2:44 PM lookout hill - 2014-05-20 3:37 PM Nevertooold - 2014-05-20 2:29 PM I've never known FORCO to make a horse hot. Was your horse dull and lethargic before going on the FORCO? I could see a horse feeling good if they were having stomach issues. Take him off of it and see what happens. That is the only way you are going to know if it is the FORCO. He's never been dull & lethargic. I'm thinking/hoping it's too much green grass so I'm going to start limiting his time out to pasture. The grass is really thick right now & he's been turned out more than usual because we've been so busy.
I remember years ago I bought a young horse that was laid back. He looked wormy so I did a power pac and until he got use to feeling good...he was a royal pain in the butt...If I could..I would have fed him worms. LOL
So what are you going to stop?
FORCO or grass?
Keep us posted. I know how frustrating it is. |
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Location: Willows, CA | Limit the green grass time. Add some cured hay. Spring grasses can be very high in sugar. Forco is a pre-biotic. It should increase digestive efficiency, therefor make more complete digestion possible of the pasture and the sugar that is now has. A pre-biotic itself has nothing in it that would make a horse hot. High sugar content pasture may. |
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Location: san antonio texas | winwillows - 2014-05-20 4:22 PM Limit the green grass time. Add some cured hay. Spring grasses can be very high in sugar. Forco is a pre-biotic. It should increase digestive efficiency, therefor make more complete digestion possible of the pasture and the sugar that is now has. A pre-biotic itself has nothing in it that would make a horse hot. High sugar content pasture may.
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Hungarian Midget Woman
Location: Midwest | It's the grass
a probiotic or prebiotic is pretty unlikely to effect behavior IMHO..... |
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| I used Forco last summer and waiting on another supply. My horse worked better than ever last year and didnt have any behavioral problems what so ever. |
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Location: MI | I'm pretty sure Forco made my mare nervous. I had her on it last summer, loved it. Then over the fall/winter she started to get very nervous and claustrophobic. She tends to be a little higher strung, but not obscenely so. She was in a dry paddock with free access hay for the fall/winter, I couldn't figure out what was going on with her behavior. My husband fed for a week or 2 when I was sick over the winter and didn't feed any supplements and she calmed significantly. I started her back on it and within 2 days I noticed that she was getting nervous again. Nothing else had changed. I stopped it, she calmed down again. I don't feel like it should have made her more nervous, but for some reason it sure did. |
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Location: Willows, CA | See explanation above. A Pre-biotic has nothing in it that would make your horse hot. But, better digestion of your fed program may. Even if it is only hay or pasture, if it is high in starches and sugars you may very well change your horses additude. This is easy to fix, but don't fix it by giving up better digestion. |
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Not Afraid to Work
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| winwillows - 2014-05-20 10:09 PM
See explanation above. A Pre-biotic has nothing in it that would make your horse hot. But, better digestion of your fed program may. Even if it is only hay or pasture, if it is high in starches and sugars you may very well change your horses additude. This is easy to fix, but don't fix it by giving up better digestion.
I think this makes perfect sense. My horse felt better on it but it wasnt an aggressive or "hot" behavior. |
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Water Weight Barbie
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Location: Oz, Kansas | Nevertooold - 2014-05-20 3:15 PM lookout hill - 2014-05-20 4:01 PM Nevertooold - 2014-05-20 2:44 PM lookout hill - 2014-05-20 3:37 PM Nevertooold - 2014-05-20 2:29 PM I've never known FORCO to make a horse hot. Was your horse dull and lethargic before going on the FORCO? I could see a horse feeling good if they were having stomach issues. Take him off of it and see what happens. That is the only way you are going to know if it is the FORCO. He's never been dull & lethargic. I'm thinking/hoping it's too much green grass so I'm going to start limiting his time out to pasture. The grass is really thick right now & he's been turned out more than usual because we've been so busy.
I remember years ago I bought a young horse that was laid back. He looked wormy so I did a power pac and until he got use to feeling good...he was a royal pain in the butt...If I could..I would have fed him worms. LOL
FORCO or grass?
Keep us posted. I know how frustrating it is.
I'm going to limit his pasture time first & see if that helps. He looks great & once she wore him down he ran great. We'll see how it goes. Thanks for all the info.  |
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| I had a horse go completely unrulely and out of their typical sweet behavior last summer.
I had ticks in their ears. Now I check that first every time there is a behavior change they are really prevelent this year also. It is unbelieveable how ticks can effect their behavior. |
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Location: Here | Nevertooold - 2014-05-20 3:44 PM lookout hill - 2014-05-20 3:37 PM Nevertooold - 2014-05-20 2:29 PM I've never known FORCO to make a horse hot. Was your horse dull and lethargic before going on the FORCO? I could see a horse feeling good if they were having stomach issues. Take him off of it and see what happens. That is the only way you are going to know if it is the FORCO. He's never been dull & lethargic. I'm thinking/hoping it's too much green grass so I'm going to start limiting his time out to pasture. The grass is really thick right now & he's been turned out more than usual because we've been so busy.
I remember years ago I bought a young horse that was laid back. He looked wormy so I did a power pac and until he got use to feeling good...he was a royal pain in the butt...If I could..I would have fed him worms. LOL
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Location: Texas | Call me crazy… BUT… I take probiotics, the good kind, on occasion… I say on occasion because if I take them on a daily basis, I get antsy and a little nervous feeling. I realize that probiotics should not make you feel that, but for me it does, so I limit my intake. I have tested the theory, very thoroughly, and have come to the conclusion that everybody reacts in a different way to stimulus.
I also have a horse that has allergies. When I use his magnetic blanket on him he gets sick… cough, runny nose, listless… go figure.
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