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Thistle2011
Reg. Mar 2012
Posted 2014-05-21 11:24 PM
Subject: horse kicked on hip



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...many of you know I had a filly that I took to 4 different vets that after a year was deemed brood mare sound only with the injury located on the hip. I was absolutely sick with the prognosis and sold her for nothin. I now have a filly that I have going fantastic and she gets kicked right on the large hip joint. I don't think anything of it the first day because there wasnt any visible swelling and she wasn't lame watching her in the pasture. I go to saddle her up and lunge her she is extremely sore on that side not three legged lame but enough my heart sink. I need prayers and happy stories of horses getting kicked on the femur joint n bouncing back. I palated it and she isn't sore to the touch. I'm just sick. Gave her some bute then will see what her gate looks like in a week

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BARRELHORSE USA
Reg. Sep 2011
Posted 2014-05-22 1:36 AM
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She may have a fractured pelvis and not in that joint area ... so think twice about doing anything strenuous ....
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Thistle2011
Reg. Mar 2012
Posted 2014-05-22 5:06 AM
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BARRELHORSE USA - 2014-05-22 1:36 AM

She may have a fractured pelvis and not in that joint area ... so think twice about doing anything strenuous ....

Stopped the second I had seen she was off. Not my first hip injury. Just looking for some uplifting I can't afford to go threw horses like soda pop and have already gone through something similar that broke my heart.

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cheryl makofka
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2014-05-22 6:52 AM
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If this was my horse, I would put her on antiinflammatories, take her to the vet, have them xray if can, if not then I would get them to do an internal ultrasound.

I had one diagnosed via internal ultrasound with a pelvic fracture, I was lucky as there was no misalignment.

If the joint is affected, I would get the vet to inject the joint with Palesine (spelling might be incorrect) I have had good results with a horse who tore her joint capsule out of the joint, it takes the swelling out immediately doesn't affect the cartilage as your steroids do.

After a few days I would have my vet inject HA into the joint.

I am very proactive at doing everything possible to prevent damage to a joint, thankfully I have a vet who is the same way.
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Thistle2011
Reg. Mar 2012
Posted 2014-05-22 8:25 AM
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cheryl makofka - 2014-05-22 6:52 AM

If this was my horse, I would put her on antiinflammatories, take her to the vet, have them xray if can, if not then I would get them to do an internal ultrasound.

I had one diagnosed via internal ultrasound with a pelvic fracture, I was lucky as there was no misalignment.

If the joint is affected, I would get the vet to inject the joint with Palesine (spelling might be incorrect) I have had good results with a horse who tore her joint capsule out of the joint, it takes the swelling out immediately doesn't affect the cartilage as your steroids do.

After a few days I would have my vet inject HA into the joint.

I am very proactive at doing everything possible to prevent damage to a joint, thankfully I have a vet who is the same way.

Thank u for all the info. I'm normally very proactive but we are not in a good place right now financially (after literally spending thousands on the last filly who's career ending injury was hip related) I'm going to copy what you have said tho and if after a week of rest and bute there is still lameness we will have to figure something out. We have a handful of equine only vets in the area and not one of them is specialized enough to do much with the hip...so we have to travel yuck.
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wyoming barrel racer
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Posted 2014-05-22 9:33 AM
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cheryl makofka - 2014-05-22 5:52 AM If this was my horse, I would put her on antiinflammatories, take her to the vet, have them xray if can, if not then I would get them to do an internal ultrasound. I had one diagnosed via internal ultrasound with a pelvic fracture, I was lucky as there was no misalignment. If the joint is affected, I would get the vet to inject the joint with Palesine (spelling might be incorrect) I have had good results with a horse who tore her joint capsule out of the joint, it takes the swelling out immediately doesn't affect the cartilage as your steroids do. After a few days I would have my vet inject HA into the joint. I am very proactive at doing everything possible to prevent damage to a joint, thankfully I have a vet who is the same way.

I had something similar but with a youngster too young to do a rectal exam and there isn't a vet within a days drive that can ultrasound (and was told the risk wasn't worth it for this youngster) so we were proactive and treated it like a break. He was on small confinement for nearly 5 months. He had anti-imflammatories and I gave him NutraWOUND. He was just turned out to pasture with the other geldings this week. I "think" he is going to be ok, but only time will tell. Probably when I start him I'll know if he will be any good.

I am starting to think that we need to find a horse we hate, that isn't bred worth a poop and UGLY to boot. Those kind live forever and never get hurt.
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Bibliafarm
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Posted 2014-05-22 9:59 AM
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If I was in your situation then id give bute and confine her in a smaller area but not stall for she may get stiff..and watch her closely and if she appears to be more painful and not moving around Id get a vet to check her . hopefully shes just sore from being kicked.  Id probrably have a vet look her over anyway but I saw you were interested in alternatives.. it could be she is just sore
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FlyingJT
Reg. Jan 2014
Posted 2014-05-22 10:09 AM
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had a horse get kicked in the shoulder, took 5 months before he didn't show signs of soreness. He got kicked hard enough to break the skin, however. no facture just deep muscle bruising. I just turned him out. They're smarter than we give them credit for and know their limits on pain probably better than we think. If she were mine I would turn her out and bring her back up in a couple weeks and see how she's moving.
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wyoming barrel racer
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Posted 2014-05-22 10:48 AM
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FlyingJT - 2014-05-22 9:09 AM had a horse get kicked in the shoulder, took 5 months before he didn't show signs of soreness. He got kicked hard enough to break the skin, however. no facture just deep muscle bruising. I just turned him out. They're smarter than we give them credit for and know their limits on pain probably better than we think. If she were mine I would turn her out and bring her back up in a couple weeks and see how she's moving.

BAD advice if it is a pelvic fracture. My 5yr old was turned out while I was pregnant with my 2nd son. He fractured his pelvis sometime while he was out in pasture, probably slipped on ice and it healed assymetrical. It healed really well otherwise. Had we kept him on stall rest, he would be perfect and still able to run barrels. Now I have a super nice horse that can only be ranch ridden or trail ridden. No hard stops or turns. 
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Thistle2011
Reg. Mar 2012
Posted 2014-05-22 11:26 AM
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I have good news I went out to watch her with her buddies she never once rested the side she was kicked on and when her buds got a little to far for comfort I got a great visual of her long toting and was pretty darn square. I'm not getting to excited yet but much better than yesterday. Gave her a little more bute and cold hosed area. I'm praying she is just sore and no real I jury.
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FlyingJT
Reg. Jan 2014
Posted 2014-05-22 11:34 AM
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wyoming barrel racer - 2014-05-22 10:48 AM

FlyingJT - 2014-05-22 9:09 AM had a horse get kicked in the shoulder, took 5 months before he didn't show signs of soreness. He got kicked hard enough to break the skin, however. no facture just deep muscle bruising. I just turned him out. They're smarter than we give them credit for and know their limits on pain probably better than we think. If she were mine I would turn her out and bring her back up in a couple weeks and see how she's moving.

BAD advice if it is a pelvic fracture. My 5yr old was turned out while I was pregnant with my 2nd son. He fractured his pelvis sometime while he was out in pasture, probably slipped on ice and it healed assymetrical. It healed really well otherwise. Had we kept him on stall rest, he would be perfect and still able to run barrels. Now I have a super nice horse that can only be ranch ridden or trail ridden. No hard stops or turns. 

I'm not telling her not to check on her! seeing a horse moving out unrestricted and one that isn't stoved up because of being locked in a 12x12 box can tell you a lot. She'll be able to determine if it's getting worse or better. sorry your gelding got hurt!
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TessBelle
Reg. Mar 2014
Posted 2014-05-22 12:55 PM
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I had a young horse that got kicked in the hip and shattered his growth plate.
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cheryl makofka
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2014-05-22 1:05 PM
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Thistle2011 - 2014-05-22 8:25 AM

cheryl makofka - 2014-05-22 6:52 AM

If this was my horse, I would put her on antiinflammatories, take her to the vet, have them xray if can, if not then I would get them to do an internal ultrasound.

I had one diagnosed via internal ultrasound with a pelvic fracture, I was lucky as there was no misalignment.

If the joint is affected, I would get the vet to inject the joint with Palesine (spelling might be incorrect) I have had good results with a horse who tore her joint capsule out of the joint, it takes the swelling out immediately doesn't affect the cartilage as your steroids do.

After a few days I would have my vet inject HA into the joint.

I am very proactive at doing everything possible to prevent damage to a joint, thankfully I have a vet who is the same way.

Thank u for all the info. I'm normally very proactive but we are not in a good place right now financially (after literally spending thousands on the last filly who's career ending injury was hip related) I'm going to copy what you have said tho and if after a week of rest and bute there is still lameness we will have to figure something out. We have a handful of equine only vets in the area and not one of them is specialized enough to do much with the hip...so we have to travel yuck.

Good luck and I know about the no good vets close. I drive 4 hours one way for my vet. I am lucky though, since I am a frequent customer I get a break on board and am able to leave mine there until stable.
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wyoming barrel racer
Reg. Apr 2006
Posted 2014-05-22 1:45 PM
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FlyingJT - 2014-05-22 10:34 AM
wyoming barrel racer - 2014-05-22 10:48 AM
FlyingJT - 2014-05-22 9:09 AM had a horse get kicked in the shoulder, took 5 months before he didn't show signs of soreness. He got kicked hard enough to break the skin, however. no facture just deep muscle bruising. I just turned him out. They're smarter than we give them credit for and know their limits on pain probably better than we think. If she were mine I would turn her out and bring her back up in a couple weeks and see how she's moving.
BAD advice if it is a pelvic fracture. My 5yr old was turned out while I was pregnant with my 2nd son. He fractured his pelvis sometime while he was out in pasture, probably slipped on ice and it healed assymetrical. It healed really well otherwise. Had we kept him on stall rest, he would be perfect and still able to run barrels. Now I have a super nice horse that can only be ranch ridden or trail ridden. No hard stops or turns. 
I'm not telling her not to check on her! seeing a horse moving out unrestricted and one that isn't stoved up because of being locked in a 12x12 box can tell you a lot. She'll be able to determine if it's getting worse or better. sorry your gelding got hurt!

Oh I know and understand, but if it is just a crack and not more of a fracture, moving out can push it into something more serious. After my last couple of fiasco's I feel like a broken pelvis expert, a very unfortunate thing to be.  My young colt looked good, part of the time, then he would play (because he didn't take care of himself...or felt better that day) and would be double sore later. So I locked him up outside in a small pen...that he hated. But it was either that or take a chance that it wouldn't heal well, whatever it is that he messed up.

But it does sound like he is looking better so prayers it is just a bad bruise
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