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Location: Somewhere between raising hell and Amazing Grace | Help? Because apparently no well drilling/pump repair places answer phones, you have to leave voice mails and just sit and wait until they call you back......
Lost water pressure two nights ago at the end of taking a shower but still had water. Next morning it seemed fine but only used it briefly to wash my hands. Came home from work, did barn chores, worked out, did some work, never used water....went to take a shower and no water pressure. A few minutes later no water at all.
Breaker was tripped. Turn it on and we have power to the pump, switch, pressure tank, but it keeps tripping the breaker every 10-20 seconds. Disconnected the wires outside at the pump so that the pump itself was completely disconnected, and the breaker will stay on.......
I'm so confused and I would REALLY LIKE TO TAKE A SHOWER!!! ( I did 60 minutes of cardio and 60 minutes of weights before I found out I had no water...........last night......I stink......like really bad.....) |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | The problem we have with our pumps out here is that the ants for some reason love to get in the contacts and burn them up for us, always having to replace the contacts. Check to see if ants are getting into yours.
Just have to say,, you stink, lol 
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Location: Sperry, OK | Could just simply be a bad breaker... can you replace the breaker and see of that one is just weak? That would be the cheapest place to start IMO. See what brand of breaker box you have and buy that brand of breaker. |
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| Could also be a short in the pump, can you pull the pump out and test where the short is? |
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Location: PNW | I know that they are a constant PITA sometimes..... But that's all I've got :( |
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Damn Yankee
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Location: Somewhere between raising hell and Amazing Grace | It's the pump....or the wires down where they connect to the pump.....
So I was right, hubby was wrong, but I'd rather he was right and I was wrong. $1450 to pull it up, replace the pump, and drop it back down, but that includes the new pump so that's not really that bad.
Gentleman was close when he returned my call, stopped out, has to go back to get the trailer to pull the pump up........
I swear if it weren't for bad luck.....but it could be worse right? I mean we could be drilling a new well......which ours is well over 500 feet.......
Next it will be our water heater......just a gut feeling....
But then I'm the one the told the farrier my horse would pull a shoe right before Carthage and he did so maybe I should shut up :) |
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| missroselee - 2014-05-29 11:53 AM
It's the pump....or the wires down where they connect to the pump.....
So I was right, hubby was wrong, but I'd rather he was right and I was wrong. $1450 to pull it up, replace the pump, and drop it back down, but that includes the new pump so that's not really that bad.
Gentleman was close when he returned my call, stopped out, has to go back to get the trailer to pull the pump up........
I swear if it weren't for bad luck.....but it could be worse right? I mean we could be drilling a new well......which ours is well over 500 feet.......
Next it will be our water heater......just a gut feeling....
But then I'm the one the told the farrier my horse would pull a shoe right before Carthage and he did so maybe I should shut up :)
You got a good deal
Out pump alone was 1200 it is 300 feet down, we pulled it out by hand did all the work ourselves.
Glad problem solved and repaired |
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Location: SE Louisiana | missroselee - 2014-05-29 11:53 AM
It's the pump....or the wires down where they connect to the pump.....
So I was right, hubby was wrong, but I'd rather he was right and I was wrong. $1450 to pull it up, replace the pump, and drop it back down, but that includes the new pump so that's not really that bad.
Gentleman was close when he returned my call, stopped out, has to go back to get the trailer to pull the pump up........
I swear if it weren't for bad luck.....but it could be worse right? I mean we could be drilling a new well......which ours is well over 500 feet.......
Next it will be our water heater......just a gut feeling....
But then I'm the one the told the farrier my horse would pull a shoe right before Carthage and he did so maybe I should shut up :)
It could very well be your hot water heater next... You're sitting atop a giant limestone aquifer and without a water softener lime will build up pretty quick in that heater.. Dunno if Tenco in Rolla is still there but they always did good work.. We had to pull ours a few times over 30 years.... we also learned to keep a spare control box handy for lightening strikes.... You just switch it out and fix the problem... Takes 15 seconds |
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Location: Somewhere between raising hell and Amazing Grace | komet. - 2014-05-29 1:49 PM missroselee - 2014-05-29 11:53 AM It's the pump....or the wires down where they connect to the pump.....
So I was right, hubby was wrong, but I'd rather he was right and I was wrong. $1450 to pull it up, replace the pump, and drop it back down, but that includes the new pump so that's not really that bad.
Gentleman was close when he returned my call, stopped out, has to go back to get the trailer to pull the pump up........
I swear if it weren't for bad luck.....but it could be worse right? I mean we could be drilling a new well......which ours is well over 500 feet.......
Next it will be our water heater......just a gut feeling....
But then I'm the one the told the farrier my horse would pull a shoe right before Carthage and he did so maybe I should shut up :) It could very well be your hot water heater next... You're sitting atop a giant limestone aquifer and without a water softener lime will build up pretty quick in that heater.. Dunno if Tenco in Rolla is still there but they always did good work.. We had to pull ours a few times over 30 years.... we also learned to keep a spare control box handy for lightening strikes.... You just switch it out and fix the problem... Takes 15 seconds
Komet I did see your comment a while back on my other thread about the water and having to think about it. I just never had time to respond. The water heater we have now is about ten years old. We knew that when we bought the house. So we are prepared to have to replace it at some point. Just waiting for it to kick the bucket first :).
We will be doing a water softener....not as soon now as we wanted because of having to do this. We are still waiting on the gentleman to come back and get started. He is also going to check on a few other things because there are some things that weren't installed the best way they should have been, and he's going to explain the best way for us to run seperate water to our barn. Right now it comes from a house from the house. Barn was only built two years ago and used as a shop so they never ran water out there. |
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Location: SE Louisiana | missroselee - 2014-05-29 12:52 PM
komet. - 2014-05-29 1:49 PM missroselee - 2014-05-29 11:53 AM It's the pump....or the wires down where they connect to the pump.....
So I was right, hubby was wrong, but I'd rather he was right and I was wrong. $1450 to pull it up, replace the pump, and drop it back down, but that includes the new pump so that's not really that bad.
Gentleman was close when he returned my call, stopped out, has to go back to get the trailer to pull the pump up........
I swear if it weren't for bad luck.....but it could be worse right? I mean we could be drilling a new well......which ours is well over 500 feet.......
Next it will be our water heater......just a gut feeling....
But then I'm the one the told the farrier my horse would pull a shoe right before Carthage and he did so maybe I should shut up :) It could very well be your hot water heater next... You're sitting atop a giant limestone aquifer and without a water softener lime will build up pretty quick in that heater.. Dunno if Tenco in Rolla is still there but they always did good work.. We had to pull ours a few times over 30 years.... we also learned to keep a spare control box handy for lightening strikes.... You just switch it out and fix the problem... Takes 15 seconds
We will be doing a water softener....not as soon now as we wanted because of having to do this. We are still waiting on the gentleman to come back and get started. He is also going to check on a few other things because there are some things that weren't installed the best way they should have been, and he's going to explain the best way for us to run seperate water to our barn. Right now it comes from a house from the house. Barn was only built two years ago and used as a shop so they never ran water out there.
If it is a gas heater, you can bet at 10 years old there is already a deep layer of lime in the bottom and it has to heat THROUGH that to get to the water... So it's costing you a ton more than it should.... If it's electric you can change the elements out pretty easy but it's a messy job.... The thing about electric heaters is you can take the bottom element out and dig the lime out... like I said.. messy.. Watch for deals that come up once in a while.... Either the electric company or one of the gas companies will offer a free heater to change to their particular service. |
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Damn Yankee
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Location: Somewhere between raising hell and Amazing Grace | It's electric. I'll talk to hubby about seeing if he wants to try to clean it. May not be a bad idea no matter how messy because we can't afford to replace everything at once. Maybe we can get another year out of it |
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Location: SE Louisiana | missroselee - 2014-05-29 1:11 PM
It's electric. I'll talk to hubby about seeing if he wants to try to clean it. May not be a bad idea no matter how messy because we can't afford to replace everything at once. Maybe we can get another year out of it
OK usually it's the bottom element that cakes up with lime 1st... Then it rots through and shorts out.... They don't cost much to replace if you do it yourself.... Just remember to turn the electric off 1st!!! I used to work on a dairy not far from you that had to have the bottom one changed about every 5 weeks.... but we went through a lot of hot water.. |
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Location: Somewhere between raising hell and Amazing Grace | komet. - 2014-05-29 2:17 PM missroselee - 2014-05-29 1:11 PM It's electric. I'll talk to hubby about seeing if he wants to try to clean it. May not be a bad idea no matter how messy because we can't afford to replace everything at once. Maybe we can get another year out of it OK usually it's the bottom element that cakes up with lime 1st... Then it rots through and shorts out.... They don't cost much to replace if you do it yourself.... Just remember to turn the electric off 1st!!! I used to work on a dairy not far from you that had to have the bottom one changed about every 5 weeks.... but we went through a lot of hot water..
I wash clothes in cold water just to save on using the water heater, and save on the clothes. I prefer cold shower too :) So in general we don't use a ton of hot water.
We need to research it more, but when it is time to replace it, we were wondering if there is any reason to go with one of the tankless heaters versus traditional. I only ask because our house is on a slab, not crawl space or basement, so if something ever did happen with the water heater it would flood the whole first floor. |
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| We "got" to dig a new well as our collapsed - RIGHT before Christmas - $4500, then in Feb. we "got" to have a whole new septic - tank AND latterals - $6000 - I am SPENT OUT. Spending money on stuff like this is NO FUN. |
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Location: SE Louisiana | missroselee - 2014-05-29 1:18 PM
komet. - 2014-05-29 2:17 PM missroselee - 2014-05-29 1:11 PM It's electric. I'll talk to hubby about seeing if he wants to try to clean it. May not be a bad idea no matter how messy because we can't afford to replace everything at once. Maybe we can get another year out of it OK usually it's the bottom element that cakes up with lime 1st... Then it rots through and shorts out.... They don't cost much to replace if you do it yourself.... Just remember to turn the electric off 1st!!! I used to work on a dairy not far from you that had to have the bottom one changed about every 5 weeks.... but we went through a lot of hot water..
We need to research it more, but when it is time to replace it, we were wondering if there is any reason to go with one of the tankless heaters versus traditional. I only ask because our house is on a slab, not crawl space or basement, so if something ever did happen with the water heater it would flood the whole first floor.
I've never heard of a tankless heater unless you're talking about on of those circulaters they have.. I know a few folks that have outdoor wood furnaces that heat and circulate hot water... They supply fresh hot water without an indoor tank.... Don't know if they keep them burning all year or just in the winter and have another heater for warmer months.. |
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Location: The barn...where else? SW Missouri | komet. - 2014-05-29 1:09 PM missroselee - 2014-05-29 12:52 PM komet. - 2014-05-29 1:49 PM missroselee - 2014-05-29 11:53 AM It's the pump....or the wires down where they connect to the pump.....
So I was right, hubby was wrong, but I'd rather he was right and I was wrong. $1450 to pull it up, replace the pump, and drop it back down, but that includes the new pump so that's not really that bad.
Gentleman was close when he returned my call, stopped out, has to go back to get the trailer to pull the pump up........
I swear if it weren't for bad luck.....but it could be worse right? I mean we could be drilling a new well......which ours is well over 500 feet.......
Next it will be our water heater......just a gut feeling....
But then I'm the one the told the farrier my horse would pull a shoe right before Carthage and he did so maybe I should shut up :) It could very well be your hot water heater next... You're sitting atop a giant limestone aquifer and without a water softener lime will build up pretty quick in that heater.. Dunno if Tenco in Rolla is still there but they always did good work.. We had to pull ours a few times over 30 years.... we also learned to keep a spare control box handy for lightening strikes.... You just switch it out and fix the problem... Takes 15 seconds
We will be doing a water softener....not as soon now as we wanted because of having to do this. We are still waiting on the gentleman to come back and get started. He is also going to check on a few other things because there are some things that weren't installed the best way they should have been, and he's going to explain the best way for us to run seperate water to our barn. Right now it comes from a house from the house. Barn was only built two years ago and used as a shop so they never ran water out there. If it is a gas heater, you can bet at 10 years old there is already a deep layer of lime in the bottom and it has to heat THROUGH that to get to the water... So it's costing you a ton more than it should.... If it's electric you can change the elements out pretty easy but it's a messy job.... The thing about electric heaters is you can take the bottom element out and dig the lime out... like I said.. messy.. Watch for deals that come up once in a while.... Either the electric company or one of the gas companies will offer a free heater to change to their particular service.
Been there done that. We cleaned ours out last fall. I'm in SW Missouri so lime in the water is awful. Mine was so full of lime it took forever to get it out. We usually clean it our every year, but got didn't get it done year before last. Changed the element too. |
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Location: Somewhere between raising hell and Amazing Grace | $1540 later and we have water. Dang pump was the original and 20 years old. |
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Location: North Texas | missroselee - 2014-05-29 1:18 PM komet. - 2014-05-29 2:17 PM missroselee - 2014-05-29 1:11 PM It's electric. I'll talk to hubby about seeing if he wants to try to clean it. May not be a bad idea no matter how messy because we can't afford to replace everything at once. Maybe we can get another year out of it OK usually it's the bottom element that cakes up with lime 1st... Then it rots through and shorts out.... They don't cost much to replace if you do it yourself.... Just remember to turn the electric off 1st!!! I used to work on a dairy not far from you that had to have the bottom one changed about every 5 weeks.... but we went through a lot of hot water..
We need to research it more, but when it is time to replace it, we were wondering if there is any reason to go with one of the tankless heaters versus traditional. I only ask because our house is on a slab, not crawl space or basement, so if something ever did happen with the water heater it would flood the whole first floor.
I just recently completed three MAJOR Plumbing Repairs @ my house. And I enquired about a Tankless Hot Water Heater (Electric). Plumber was emphatic about NO! To retro install a Tankless HWH is major money and THEN the Power Draw increases dramatically. All for convenience.
So, No, We are not changing over. |
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Location: North Texas | missroselee - 2014-05-29 6:23 PM $1540 later and we have water. Dang pump was the original and 20 years old.
Not a bad price. And actually good service out of the original unit. |
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