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  Damn Yankee
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Location: Somewhere between raising hell and Amazing Grace | Because I'm dumb. In simple steps, what is the process starting with prepping the mare? I don't need to know about collecting from the stallion, just the process with the mare. Once they have been AI'ed, and checked at 14 days, if they check in foal, do you check again at 28 days or ???? |
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Location: Bandera, TX | Last year I took all my mares in March to be checked, all were dorment. No action, so much for my light protocol! April rolls around take the three to be checked again. Two were ready to go, ordered semen. Drove to San Antone' only to chase the %^&%$$# UPS truck all over the place for the Woodbridge dose. Get mares back to clinic as they were with me on the "chase". The first mare had all ready ovulated! Bada Bing Bam slam her with Judge Cash and crossed our fingers. The other mare was a 36 so we give her Mr Woodbridge and think awe, she don't need any drugs her pasture mate ovulated she will too! Next day go back to check that, boo hoo, she didn't pop! Give her drugs to do so then second dose of Mr Woodbridge. Take other mare out of the trailer that was several centimeters smaller on the orginal check. She's ready! Call for Mr Firewater Ta Fame to show up and hope that Shelly's still in the barn collecting him (it was noonish). Thankfully she was. Haul those two back to Vet the next day. UPS arrived as supposed, mare was a 35, gave her a single dose of the handsome FTF, and a shot to make her ovulate. Checked the mare bred to Woodbridge and very relieved that she had ovulated. The next day took the FTF mare back to the vet to check for ovulation. Yep, it occured that $50 shot was worth it! Shook hand of the vet said thanks for a fast and furious week of work with the mares see you in two weeks....it goes on need more? |
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Damn Yankee
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Location: Somewhere between raising hell and Amazing Grace | Â I meant explain the actual procedures. If they check on foal at 14 days first how can you tell and second do you have to or should you recheck at 28 days |
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| missroselee - 2014-05-31 10:49 AM
 I meant explain the actual procedures. If they check on foal at 14 days first how can you tell and second do you have to or should you recheck at 28 days
If you look on my facebook (we are friends) I posted a 14 day ultrasound its just a black dot.
My vet said to bring her back at 45 days just to make ssir she did not slip the foal.
To get her ready all I did was brain her in a bunch to see where she was at, and my vet gave me instructions as whe to bring her in next and they took care of ordering semen. |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | I have never checked later. It is always too late for us or the stallion owner anyways if they were to prove open at 28 days. I mean we foal for May so by 28 days, it would just be later than most stallion owners would ship. I also figure, they can lose that embryo at any point from the time you see it at 14 days to up until they foal. Might as well save the $40 and $150 in fuel and just pray for the best. |
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| We ultrasound until the mare has a good follicle building, then we usually give a shot of des to make them ovulate within 36 hours. So we des the day before we breed, AI the day after des, and palpate again the morning after breeding to make sure they have ovulated. If they ovulate, you check at 14 days to make sure they're pregnant. 28 days you should be able to see a visible heartbeat that's why most people check again at that time. |
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Location: Bandera, TX | Down here, we check, as our time window is more "open".
The Judge Cash mare didn't hold her foal she was pregnant then suddenly not. I had a friend come by as I thought she was showing sign of coming back in she checked her found a growing follicle and I called for semen before telling the vet. It all worked out. She has a bouncing baby boy two weeks after the other two. It just depends on the situation. If I'm breeding late I don't worry about rechecks. |
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Location: Oklahoma | We check 14-16 days and again 24-30 days ... will check my older mares again at 60 days |
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| I have a mare in for AI right now, it's my first experience too. I'm procedure-stupid on this stuff so I just dropped her off here:
http://www.wardriverranch.com/index.html
They are handling all the logistics with the stallion owner, ultrasounds, etc. I just got her vacc's up to date and dropped her off. I'll pay the bill when I pick her up after she checks in. Since she's an 18 yr old maiden, it's been a lot longer and trickier than I had hoped, so my bill will probably be a lot bigger than most. |
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| And this is why I buy my colts already on the ground! lol  |
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| uno-dos-tres! - 2014-05-31 8:19 AM
Last year I took all my mares in March to be checked, all were dorment. No action, so much for my light protocol! April rolls around take the three to be checked again. Two were ready to go, ordered semen. Drove to San Antone' only to chase the %^&%$$# UPS truck all over the place for the Woodbridge dose. Get mares back to clinic as they were with me on the "chase". The first mare had all ready ovulated! Bada Bing Bam slam her with Judge Cash and crossed our fingers. The other mare was a 36 so we give her Mr Woodbridge and think awe, she don't need any drugs her pasture mate ovulated she will too! Next day go back to check that, boo hoo, she didn't pop! Give her drugs to do so then second dose of Mr Woodbridge. Take other mare out of the trailer that was several centimeters smaller on the orginal check. She's ready! Call for Mr Firewater Ta Fame to show up and hope that Shelly's still in the barn collecting him (it was noonish). Thankfully she was. Haul those two back to Vet the next day. UPS arrived as supposed, mare was a 35, gave her a single dose of the handsome FTF, and a shot to make her ovulate. Checked the mare bred to Woodbridge and very relieved that she had ovulated. The next day took the FTF mare back to the vet to check for ovulation. Yep, it occured that $50 shot was worth it! Shook hand of the vet said thanks for a fast and furious week of work with the mares see you in two weeks....it goes on need more?
This made me l afugh so hard. This was my first year AI ing a horse and I experience all that plus being sprayed in he face with horse semen, its a miracle my horse is in foal lol. |
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| roanrider - 2014-05-31 3:10 PM
And this is why I buy my colts already on the ground! lolÂ
Actually a very economical idea. I have thousands tied up in mine!!!! |
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Location: SE Louisiana | della - 2014-05-31 3:49 PM
uno-dos-tres! - 2014-05-31 8:19 AM
Last year I took all my mares in March to be checked, all were dorment. No action, so much for my light protocol! April rolls around take the three to be checked again. Two were ready to go, ordered semen. Drove to San Antone' only to chase the %^&%$$# UPS truck all over the place for the Woodbridge dose. Get mares back to clinic as they were with me on the "chase". The first mare had all ready ovulated! Bada Bing Bam slam her with Judge Cash and crossed our fingers. The other mare was a 36 so we give her Mr Woodbridge and think awe, she don't need any drugs her pasture mate ovulated she will too! Next day go back to check that, boo hoo, she didn't pop! Give her drugs to do so then second dose of Mr Woodbridge. Take other mare out of the trailer that was several centimeters smaller on the orginal check. She's ready! Call for Mr Firewater Ta Fame to show up and hope that Shelly's still in the barn collecting him (it was noonish). Thankfully she was. Haul those two back to Vet the next day. UPS arrived as supposed, mare was a 35, gave her a single dose of the handsome FTF, and a shot to make her ovulate. Checked the mare bred to Woodbridge and very relieved that she had ovulated. The next day took the FTF mare back to the vet to check for ovulation. Yep, it occured that $50 shot was worth it! Shook hand of the vet said thanks for a fast and furious week of work with the mares see you in two weeks....it goes on need more?
This made me l afugh so hard. This was my first year AI ing a horse and I experience all that plus being sprayed in he face with horse semen, its a miracle my horse is in foal lol.
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 The Painted Power Slapper
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Location: Praying that the Lord keeps my babies safe | missroselee - 2014-05-31 11:49 AM I meant explain the actual procedures. If they check on foal at 14 days first how can you tell and second do you have to or should you recheck at 28 days
no, if they check in foal at 14 days, why check again.? Unless they show heat signs again. |
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| roanrider - 2014-05-31 3:10 PM
And this is why I buy my colts already on the ground! lolÂ
Yep. If I didn't want one out of my specific mare and by that specific stud so bad, I would do the same. I could have already paid for a foal on the ground, and we haven't added in feeding the mare all year or foaling vet bills yet. |
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Damn Yankee
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Location: Somewhere between raising hell and Amazing Grace | paints4me - 2014-05-31 5:13 PM missroselee - 2014-05-31 11:49 AM I meant explain the actual procedures. If they check on foal at 14 days first how can you tell and second do you have to or should you recheck at 28 days no, if they check in foal at 14 days, why check again.? Unless they show heat signs again.
Because I don't know these things. That's why I ask. I'm uneducated when it comes to breeding at all and the only way I'm going to learn is to ask. I just didn't know if there was a reason to check again. My mare is going to be checked in 14 days and I was trying to figure out how soon after that they will expect me to pick her up without sending them a thousand text messages. I've already bombarded them with all sorts of other questions and I know this is a busy time of year for them :) |
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Location: Bandera, TX | missroselee - 2014-05-31 9:40 PM paints4me - 2014-05-31 5:13 PM missroselee - 2014-05-31 11:49 AM I meant explain the actual procedures. If they check on foal at 14 days first how can you tell and second do you have to or should you recheck at 28 days no, if they check in foal at 14 days, why check again.? Unless they show heat signs again.
I'LL CROSS MY FINGERS AND TOES FOR YOU AND SAY A PRAYER! |
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Location: Oklahoma | missroselee - 2014-05-31 9:40 PM paints4me - 2014-05-31 5:13 PM missroselee - 2014-05-31 11:49 AM I meant explain the actual procedures. If they check on foal at 14 days first how can you tell and second do you have to or should you recheck at 28 days no, if they check in foal at 14 days, why check again.? Unless they show heat signs again.
A lot of mare sluff between 14 and heart beat (24 days) so its very good to check again! |
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Damn Yankee
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Location: Somewhere between raising hell and Amazing Grace | Â Before I ever dropped her off Bryel mentioned keeping her until the 28 day ultrasound to be sure since she was 7 hours away. I opted to take my mare to her since they have a great AI program rather then ship |
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| missroselee - 2014-05-31 10:29 PM
 Before I ever dropped her off Bryel mentioned keeping her until the 28 day ultrasound to be sure since she was 7 hours away. I opted to take my mare to her since they have a great AI program rather then ship
I just did exactly that. She is still open after the second breeding. :-( I'll re breed again next week when she comes back in, but then I'm taking her home (3 hours). If she still doesn't take, I'll cut my losses and buy a colt next year.
I'm sure yours will be easier! Good luck!
I'm not sure I'll do the 28 day check. 14 days for sure, but I'll likely know she's lost the pregnancy if she comes back in |
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