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Location: somewhere in the south | I have a gelding that is , I guess you would say cinchy, BUT what happens is totally involuntary. If you happen to get him a little too tight too quickly, he just falls down and lays there, frozen! And Lord help me if he's tied, then it looks as if he's hanging himself! I am usually very careful how I cinch him up and all is good but at a show this weekend, I pulled the cinch up close, not even snug yet, turned my back and he fell out! Lucky I wasn't standing next to him! We got the lead undone and then the offbillet and finally, after about a minute he jumped up like "What"???? I redid everything and walked him, cinched, walked, cinched and all was good but I was really nervous about it all! Any info, help, advice?????????? It was really scary, I felt so bad for him.  |
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| I had a horse that would do that.. his rib was out of place. Chiro put it back in a couple of times and he was good to go.
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Location: somewhere in the south | Thanks, I hope it is too!! |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | I agree I would have a Chiro go over him. Thats scary when a horse just flips out on you for no reason that you know of. Had a horse that did this many years ago, if Chrio's were around back then like they are now I bet he could have been fixed. |
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| If it's not a chiro or other medical issue, I've known a few horses to do this and the only fix was to boot 'em hard. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | LuckyNGG'sGirl - 2014-06-02 9:46 PM If it's not a chiro or other medical issue, I've known a few horses to do this and the only fix was to boot 'em hard.
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| Would almost be willing to put money on Chiro. There is a nerve that runs over the wither and down behind the elbow (I believe). It basically is involuntary if he's out there. It's similar to the pressure point in out shoulders that can take you down if pinched right.
My old gelding had it happen, although only if you picked up one of his front feet while saddled. He almost fell on my sister once. Scary. |
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| It could also be ulcers. There are several points you can check and one of them is under the stomach where the cinch goes. Go to you tube and there is a video from depaulo. I may have spelled it wrong. |
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Location: Florida.. | OhMax - 2014-06-02 11:01 PM Would almost be willing to put money on Chiro. There is a nerve that runs over the wither and down behind the elbow (I believe). It basically is involuntary if he's out there. It's similar to the pressure point in out shoulders that can take you down if pinched right. My old gelding had it happen, although only if you picked up one of his front feet while saddled. He almost fell on my sister once. Scary. agreed, cant say that is why yours does it but it happens to some ..
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| A friends brand new horse did something similar because the saddle pinched... this was her reaction to pain. The minute that saddle got cinched up she froze, eyes rolled back in her head and she flipped over and hung herself from the rope. Cut her loose. Shes young so we thought maybe it was baby stuff, saddle her again, same reaction. The guy she bought him from came over and put his saddle on, cinched her up and she was fine. It just seemed to be her reaction to the pain? I guess it could have been nerve related but shes never done it since now that they put a good fitting saddle on her. |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | I am thinking rib out too. My gelding did it when he was 4. He would sit down when I just barely pulled the cinch out. He did it twice, had a chiro out and he has never tried again. |
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Location: Texas | See if he's breathing when you saddle him. It's kind of like playing possum. Some horses do it and some never do. I have had a few that did it, lol. Some blow up and hold their breath till they fall out, and others just feel the squeeze and "give up". Just cinch him lightly while he's untied and walk him in a little circle. He should be good to go. Then tighten the cinch gradually instead of all at once. Then... hope like heck that is the only quirk he ever has. :)
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| Southtxponygirl - 2014-06-02 9:50 PM
LuckyNGG'sGirl - 2014-06-02 9:46 PM If it's not a chiro or other medical issue, I've known a few horses to do this and the only fix was to boot 'em hard.
What's boot'em hard mean?
Boot 'em hard to get their butt up and working! Though that's exactly what these horses didn't want to do, hence the dropping to the ground when saddled and cinched up. |
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Location: East Tennessee but who knows?! | Vagus Nerve. |
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| I had a mare that did this all the time. She was vet-checked and chiro'd - it was just "her." I never, EVER tied her while cinching and I ALWAYS walked her while I was cinching her up. It was just one of those "quirks" I had to deal with with her. |
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| Ribs. Possibly shoulder blade. Potentially combined with ulcers. A really good pick 'em and pop 'em Chiro can sort that out in one session... |
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| LuckyNGG'sGirl - 2014-06-02 9:46 PM If it's not a chiro or other medical issue, I've known a few horses to do this and the only fix was to boot 'em hard. Actually this is exactly what a horse with this issue DOESN'T need! I owned one just like this. Its definatly a chiro issue along
with being "cinchy". After taking him to have chiro/accu done every time I saddled him I would start out by very lightly
tightening the cinch,,, then start walking him out,,,, all it took was about a minute to let him feel like he wasnt "feeling confined"
, then I could take him back to the trailer and tie him up. Unfortunatly its an issue that never went away,, but it was an issue that was
manageable. In no way did it make him a bad horse,,,, just an issue he had.
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Location: somewhere in the south | Thanks guys! I'm going to look into all of this because he is a great horse and takes the best care of me! Once snugged up and ridden you can tighten him more, no problem so I don't believe it's a reaction to not wanting to work. I will definitely check with my vet who does chiro and mention all the info related here! Anybody else that has any more info???
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | LuckyNGG'sGirl - 2014-06-02 11:34 PM Southtxponygirl - 2014-06-02 9:50 PM LuckyNGG'sGirl - 2014-06-02 9:46 PM If it's not a chiro or other medical issue, I've known a few horses to do this and the only fix was to boot 'em hard. What's boot'em hard mean? Boot 'em hard to get their butt up and working! Though that's exactly what these horses didn't want to do, hence the dropping to the ground when saddled and cinched up.
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| LuckyNGG'sGirl - 2014-06-02 9:46 PM If it's not a chiro or other medical issue, I've known a few horses to do this and the only fix was to boot 'em hard.
I don't agree with this at all... This horse sounds to be in pain... and booting him will only make him even more sore. I had a horse that did this out of the blue one day and then several days after. This also was before chiro's for horses... I turned him out for a couple weeks and he seemed to get over it. I still won't tighten my saddle all at once.... I do it in stages and so far haven't had the issue. BUT if I did I'd get them to a chiro soon. |
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