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| After 3 YEARS, seriously, I pushed my horse and we RAN at the last race. So excited - we were 4th out of 12 ladies and 1 second off the fastest time. We run in that arena alot and 16.3 (our best yet) is usually a 3D run. That was 2 weeks ago and we're going this afternoon to a club show. All I'm thinking is to see how fast we can blast thru them whether the barrels stay up or not! I know it's pride. After 3 years of playing it safe & loping the pattern, I want to show everyone I can compete. Compete? I want to win. So does this mean I'll knock over all 3 barrels & fall off on the way out?
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| I think there's a way to add speed without completely giving up on form. The NFR girls need to do just that. I don't know if blasting through them - not caring about knocking or not - is going to acurately show you where you are in the running. On the other hand, you never know until you try. LOL  |
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| It is a speed event and you are being timed. There is no one judging how pretty your run is or if you have good form. I've been outrun a lot by some ugly looking runs! At the end of the day, it's a speed event. |
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Queen Bean of Ponyland
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Location: WYOMING | Well it is a race but its always nice to go fast with style. Seen lots of pretty runs loose to ugly runs though. |
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Location: USA | 3 To Go - 2014-06-08 1:20 PM
It is a speed event and you are being timed. There is no one judging how pretty your run is or if you have good form. I've been outrun a lot by some ugly looking runs! At the end of the day, it's a speed event.
I completely agree although I don't blow through them I have been beat by some girls who bounce every where. Kick and spur their horses to death and completely have no balance but yet they still beat me even if it's a tenth of a second off. But I'd rather have my horse go through them clean, straight and balanced than sloppy, curvy, and off balance. Because if they start doing that it'll show up in their slow work. |
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Sock Snob
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| I would go to your first like you already do and the pick the pace up to second and if hemdoes well around second the haul it to,the third and if you well at that haul it home. |
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  Neat Freak
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | I have seen a gorgeous picture prefect pattern mare up here get out run by a faster horse that made mistakes more than once. |
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Location: Pacific Northwest | While it is a timed event, I would be careful if the horse isn't use to going fast. Maybe try it this time but if you have a ugly run and still clock poorly then it means your horse isn't ready to be going that fast. Horses will naturally make mistakes as they learn to handle speed, but you don't want it to become a habit. If you let your horse blow every barrel and don't try to fix it, that's how his running style is going to be. |
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Duct Tape Bikini Girl
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| Fastest doesn't mean much if you hit barrels. Good form leaves em up. |
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 Keeper of the King Snake
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Location: Dubach, LA | Slow and steady only wins in fables. It's a race. Go for it. Ever been to a futurity? Some of the ugliest patterns you'll ever see, but they are pedal to the metal.
Edited by CanCan 2014-06-08 2:10 PM
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| Thanks everyone. I'm not going to hold him back. Honestly, he knows what to do. He's picked up some bad habits with me because of my inexperience, but my daughter was almost always in 1D or 2D on him. He leaves the barrels so hard & fast it has always scared me. Love my new Tammy Fischer saddle though and coming off doesn't cross my mind anymore. Throwing a porkloin in crockpot now & heading to the show. Wish me luck. |
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Fire Ant Peddler
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| Around here the competition is tough, tough, Bad form can move you from the 1d to the 3d pretty quick. It is best to have that form down perfect then add speed. Many times a 16.7 or 16.8 is the 4d. The arena near here is NOT that small, just extremely tough horses. |
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| Good luck and have fun. Run fast and see where it ends up |
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Location: Phoenix | See I've always wondered this. I'm just wondering how's unpeg you have a perfect fast practice at home and how close your runs are to your practice runs.... |
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Location: on my horse | nance - 2014-06-08 1:09 PM
Thanks everyone. I'm not going to hold him back. Honestly, he knows what to do. He's picked up some bad habits with me because of my inexperience, but my daughter was almost always in 1D or 2D on him. He leaves the barrels so hard & fast it has always scared me. Love my new Tammy Fischer saddle though and coming off doesn't cross my mind anymore. Throwing a porkloin in crockpot now & heading to the show. Wish me luck.
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Married to a Louie Lover
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| I think a lot of depends on the horse and where he or she is at in training.
A patterned horse who understands their job is ready to go balls to the wall and haul it. But a young or unpatterned horse doesn't benefit from being pushed too soon.
It sounds like you have the former - so go for it, hit the gas, lay down skid marks, go all out!
I got beat by a lot of really ugly runs on horses that were the definition of tolerate, being whipped and kicked and spurred through the pattern. I know those girls though and that's why they are blowing up horses and having to buy something new every few years. They blow them up and blow their minds, gate issues galore and eventually the horse just shuts down. A better foundation and pattern on them and they have all the potential in the world to be a really nice horse for someone for many years, not just a couple. Also why several of these so called "trainers" won't ever touch anything of mine. |
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| So...if clock is to be believed, I ran my slowest time by 2 full seconds today,
Plus ran over the third. idk. Didn't feel that slow, but I've been fooled before. My slowest time last year was a 19.2 & today with 5 second penalty for the 3rd, I ran a 26.1. So a smokin 21.1 seconds?? My friend recorded it but you can't see the timer. It wasn't our fastest run, but 21??? Fastest time in the class was 15.7 & fastest of the day was 14.9. |
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 Not Afraid to Work
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| I would much rather have a pretty run than an out of control run knocking barrels. I feel better about it when I leave the pen. Speed is always there and eventually you get to the point where you increase you speed one knotch at a time and still have good form. Pushing it too fast before you're ready will ultimately make you feel like less of a competitor. JMO |
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The Advice Guru
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| I find with my horses and they are young, if I focus on pretty, it is generally fast, as I am focusing on my riding/timing/cueing. By this I am cueing my horses to how they were trained. I am still encouraging them to go as fast as they can, but I am not whipping or spurring excessively where i forget/miss my rate point and turn point. |
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Location: NE Texas | Throughout my training process, I will challenge a colt before they are ready and ask for them a little more than what they are prepared for.....I "put them on their honor" to work without so much of my help. This lets me know where they are strong and they are weak and shows me what I need to work on and what is they are solid on. Sometimes they surprise me in a good one and sometimes in a bad way....and sometimes they are right where I think they are.
On your horse, sounds like you've kept him slow and steady for a long time, so he's probably pretty solid. I say go for it. If you start seeing some problems, tune them up and go again. Just know that yours and his timing may be off a little with a big increase in speed. Don't be upset if you both make mistakes for a bit while learning each other at the new speed. Just keep entering and it will come together.
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