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| Would love to share my videos of my OTTB gelding started on barrels and would love any helpful suggestions. As far as the second barrel, soreness or just being new to the pattern? He's had about two months off the track and does have some pelvic issues we are trying to address so don't know if thats the reason for him losing momentum around that turn or if he is sore somewhere else in combination or if he's just being green. But I am proud of him and how calm he is for just being off the track! Anyways here some clips!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hw8j2nQBt2A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPo_paaAlqs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Spz2pNjpZs
Edited by Nicole.Noelle 2014-06-11 12:33 PM
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Location: Midwest | He looks sore... He's swishing his tail and swinging out his hind end. |
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I just read the headlines
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| I mean this in the nicest way - if you know he has pelvic issues why are you working him on the barrels? All you're going to do is create bad habits and build up dread for the barrels in him. He looks like a nice horse with a lot of try. I would be worried I was ruining a nice horse. |
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| I would say something is up too, he is wringing his tail doesn't want to stay on the left lead and is cross firing. |
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| It is obvious that there are pain related issues!!! Please stop working him on barrels, and get him to a lameness vet. It is unfair to him to be made to go around the barrels while he is hurting. Please don't take any of this the wrong way. Just saying it how I see it. |
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Location: North Dakota | Have you gotten him a complete lameness eval? If not, that is where I would start. Something is definately not right with his back end. I see him yelling "Pain!" by the way he is expressing himself in the turn.
I would stop working him on barrels so he doesn't learn to associate barrels with pain. Get him healthy and pain-free first before you go back to it.
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Location: Where cold is the normal | I see Possible teeth, but poll, shoulder and pelvis. He's in pain and you have a VERY WILLING horse that is trying to do everything you ask of him but now it's time for you to listen to him.I agree with the ladies on taking him off the pattern till he's not sore anymore. I also understand that you probably have him in the X project for barrels too but TRUST ME, you will be further ahead if you stop now and let him get better then to keep pushing the training into him because at the level of pain he's experiencing/expressing right now, you'll blow him up quicker then anything if you keep going on like this.You know you have an issue and he's coming along REAL nice on that pattern, you can afford to take some time off for his sake.Good luck with him, he's a keeper |
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| He's had a complete lameness and had chiro/ massage. All professionals have cleared him for work. I do all slow work and body control at home and the only times he's been on the pattern have been exhibitions so in no way do I intend to sour him |
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| I also mean this very kindly---Get him to the vet! No more barrels until he's sound. Something is pinching very badly in his hindquarters and making him say, "OUCH!!" |
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| Nicole.Noelle - 2014-06-11 1:44 PM
He's had a complete lameness and had chiro/ massage. All professionals have cleared him for work. I do all slow work and body control at home and the only times he's been on the pattern have been exhibitions so in no way do I intend to sour him
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| I'm not disagreeing but I want it to be know he did have an eval and what not. And been cleared for work and hence the pattern. But I have no issues giving him the time he needs. Would be looking for more suggestions then. Stifles? Pelvic? |
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Location: Cocoa, Florida | I have a filly that swishes her tail and is very gritty with full lameness exam etc, she is 100% sound so if that's the case that you claim that's fine, my issue would be that an OTTB is not usually broke enough to do barrels right off the track.
It looks like he's not even ready to slow lope the pattern, get him broke more and using his hind end, he's swinging his butt out and using his front end. Horses should be broke broke broke before they should ever see a barrel - but that's if you're serious about competition.
Just my opinion.
Edited by RnRJack 2014-06-11 2:04 PM
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| This horse is sore period. If you had a Vet look at him I would have another Vet look at him. Did you ex ray his hocks? |
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| I watched everything again. I just really want you to stop riding him, he hurts really bad and is trying to tell you. If he were mine, I'd have him in for stifle and hock X-rays and blocks to start with at a new and better vet. That boy is in pain. |
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| What a bunch of drama queens. He does look sore but its hard telling from what and how bad it is. |
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Owner of a ratting catting machine
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| Oh hello, itsme. So glad you could bring your sardonic and rude attitude to this post with nothing contributed. Sometimes one must use dramatic wording to get the point across online. Have a great and less sour day!! :) |
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| Itsme - 2014-06-11 2:42 PM
What a bunch of drama queens. He does look sore but its hard telling from what and how bad it is.
I was thinking the same thing!!! My goodness..........
I will agree however, that he is sore. It's probably why he's falling out on the backside. The tail swishing could be some of it but it also could be your feet. If he's only been off the track 3 months then he might not be completely desensitized to pressure on his sides yet. One good note is that he is very willing and I like that he changes leads coming out of the first really nice. Take him back to the vet and ask them to dig a little deeper. |
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| Glad I could help. Horses need to learn how to run through some pain anyways...  |
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Location: In a happy place | What a nice horse. I would say that he is hurting. I would be taking him to a different vet. |
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| I am going to make an appointment for a second opinion with someone else tomorrow. |
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