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Jenet
Reg. Nov 2011
Posted 2014-06-20 8:04 PM
Subject: Hind gut ulcers?


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I have been bugging all of you for quite some time now asking about lumbar pain in my gelding. Bi-monthly Chiro, lameness exam, hock injections, stifle x-rays, new custom saddle, acupuncture and massage and I'm still scratching my noggin trying to figure what makes him sore.

Today after his turnout I was giving him a bath and noticed he is not only sore in his lumbar region (only on right side) but flanks also. Made me wonder about hind gut ulcers?

Could this be a possibility? What are the symptoms? I did multiple searches through the forums and found very little on colonic ulcers. Would love to pick more brains! :)
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Douglas J Gordon
Reg. Jun 2008
Posted 2014-06-20 9:14 PM
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That is because there is a very low percentage of hind gut ulcers
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Meyerfarm
Reg. Jan 2014
Posted 2014-06-20 9:22 PM
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I would look into the Whorl bones. Google whorlbone injections in horses and see if your horse has any of the symptoms.
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classicpotatochip
Reg. Mar 2011
Posted 2014-06-20 9:25 PM
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Did you x-ray for kissing spine?
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GoMistyGo
Reg. Feb 2004
Posted 2014-06-21 7:14 AM
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How is his top line?

I would also x ray for kissing spine, and consider SI injections.
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Nevertooold
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2014-06-21 2:18 PM
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My horse had hind gut ulcers and he had every symptom for ulcers there is..
His topline was lacking.
Wouldn't put on weight.
Picked through his grain.
Was all tucked up and looked like a gutted deer.
Would stretch out and act like he was going to pee and wouldn't.
When at a race..he would go off of his feed.
Would be hesitant to go in the arena.
Was colicky.

This all ended when I started him on THE GastroPlus. 


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Jenet
Reg. Nov 2011
Posted 2014-06-21 5:04 PM
Subject: RE: Hind gut ulcers?


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Thank you! I will look into Whorl Bone issues with horses.

No, I have not x-rayed for kissing spine. I brought it up at our last lameness exam but it was dismissed (not entirely sure why.) I will do some searches on here for more info! Do they x-ray the whole spine? Is it common in just the lumbar area?
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Fairweather
Reg. Jan 2004
Posted 2014-06-21 6:20 PM
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Nevertooold - 2014-06-21 2:18 PM My horse had hind gut ulcers and he had every symptom for ulcers there is..

His topline was lacking.

Wouldn't put on weight.

Picked through his grain.

Was all tucked up and looked like a gutted deer.

Would stretch out and act like he was going to pee and wouldn't.

When at a race..he would go off of his feed.

Would be hesitant to go in the arena.

Was colicky.



This all ended when I started him on THE GastroPlus. 

Exactly. Mine was the same plus I noticed he got slow on his water as well. He's 15.3+ and wouldn't finish a 5 gallon bucket in over 24 hours. 

They have a lot of the same symptoms as gastric ulcers but they're diagnosed and treated differently. What works on gastric will not work on colon ulcers. Colon ulcers are a lot harder to diagnose. 

Mine was sore over his sacral and gut area as well. I had to cut out all molassas, beet pulp (even the non-molassas kind), pelleted feeds, and joint supplements. I put him on straight grains, soybean meal, flax seed meal, and alfalfa cubes, and mix grass hay. I saw an even bigger improvement on his appetite when I put him on Gut Proof from Horsepower herbs. It works because it's got mucilage herbs in it that encourage mucous in the gut and that mucous protects the colon as food goes through and helps it heal as  well. Probiotics that are kept cold are beneficial as well because they encourage the good bacteria in the hind gut. 

That was several years ago, and even now if I try to put him on beet pulp he's ok for a while and then he gradually gets slower and slower on his feed. There's something about the beet pulp that irritates their guts. 
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