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Location: Scurry, TX | I never hear about all the great things that Dinero and his get have accomplished. This is an amazing stud who out produces himself all the time. Why doesn't he get the press of say your Frenchmans Guy horses?
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Location: WI | No comparison - FG has sired earners winning $4.09M and Dinero $981k |
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Location: Scurry, TX | FG has more get on the ground than Dinero.
I am not saying one is better than the other.
I asked, why with all that this sire has done and what his get has done, barrel racing, roping, bull doggin, etc...
There is not more hype on this great stallion
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| linds - 2014-07-01 2:09 PM
No comparison - FG has sired earners winning $4.09M Â and Dinero $981k
Does that include rodeo winnings? Just cerious it seems low. |
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Location: Deep South | From what I've heard about the Dinero get, they mature fairly late and take a lot of riding compared to your average colts. Even Stingray is getting better and better with age.
Flame away if you wish, but it's my opinion that "out produces himself all the time" is a bit of an exaggeration when it comes to this stud. He's had a couple of really nice barrel horses out of phenomenal producing mares. In my opinion, there are better options for a $3,000 stud fee. |
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Location: Deep South | linds - 2014-07-01 3:09 PM
No comparison - FG has sired earners winning $4.09M Â and Dinero $981k
The Potter Ranch website states that his get have won a combined $2.3million |
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Location: Kansas | linds - 2014-07-01 3:09 PM No comparison - FG has sired earners winning $4.09M and Dinero $981k
From my understanding......Dinero has a LTE of over $400k himself.....his get have a combined LTE of over $2 million
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Location: The edge of no where | BamaCanChaser - 2014-07-01 3:22 PM
linds - 2014-07-01 3:09 PM
No comparison - FG has sired earners winning $4.09M Â and Dinero $981k
The Potter Ranch website states that his get have won a combined $2.3million
It's including roping/bulldogging..... not just barrels.
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Location: Scurry, TX | The numbers of less than 1 million are very low. And no way could include rodeo money Stingray has earned that much in her career.
And Dinero himself has won close to a half million
FG has more colts out there but if you look at percentage of winnings per colt you will find a different picture.
I am not bashing FG He is a great horse. But Dinero is as equally as great .
And if you had ever run against him,or any of his get, you would not say Dinero was not as good.
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Location: Oklahoma | I personally like Dinero... in my opinion he sires a much more versatile horse that can go in any avenue of the arena. |
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| According to equistat as of March 27, 2014:
Frenchmans guy has produced $4,095,692 and 505 performers
PC Frenchmans Hayday produced $981,050 and 54 performers (includes Stingray at $443,906)
This would include the rodeo earnings since equistat started recording them, as well as futurity and derby earnings. But in my opinion what sets these horses apart is the the ability for FG to consistantly produce top runners. While Dinero has only 3 that I know of that have exceeded $10,000 in equistat earnings. FG also has 32% of all foals contributing to total earnings while Dinero only has 10% of his foals contributing.
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Location: The edge of no where | BamaCanChaser - 2014-07-01 3:20 PM From what I've heard about the Dinero get, they mature fairly late and take a lot of riding compared to your average colts. Even Stingray is getting better and better with age.
Flame away if you wish, but it's my opinion that "out produces himself all the time" is a bit of an exaggeration when it comes to this stud. He's had a couple of really nice barrel horses out of phenomenal producing mares. In my opinion, there are better options for a $3,000 stud fee.
^This.
He's a nice horse, just not my pick for a barrel stud (that's jmo).
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Location: WI | My number was from Equi-Stat Barrel Racing which I don't think includes rodeos. I wasn't trying to say one was better than the other. Money won talks and Meyers do an excellent job marketing - they have 1 of the biggest sales of the year and fit their horses to perfection. Go to both their websites or flip through a BHN mag and you will see the difference in marketing. |
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Location: Kansas | linds - 2014-07-01 3:41 PM My number was from Equi-Stat Barrel Racing which I don't think includes rodeos. I wasn't trying to say one was better than the other. Money won talks and Meyers do an excellent job marketing - they have 1 of the biggest sales of the year and fit their horses to perfection. Go to both their websites or flip through a BHN mag and you will see the difference in marketing.
I agree....I have noticed that the potter's ask reasonable amounts for the offspring of dinero......even mares infoal to him were going for $3,000. I like both stallions regardless, I like the versality of Dinero babies, and I love the speed of a FG offspring (also with how smart, and quick witted they are) |
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Location: The edge of no where | Alamo1 - 2014-07-01 3:25 PM The numbers of less than 1 million are very low. And no way could include rodeo money Stingray has earned that much in her career.
And Dinero himself has won close to a half million
FG has more colts out there but if you look at percentage of winnings per colt you will find a different picture.
I am not bashing FG He is a great horse. But Dinero is as equally as great .
And if you had ever run against him,or any of his get, you would not say Dinero was not as good.
What makes you think we haven't run against and watched several of his get? (I have, my opinion doesn't change).
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Location: Deep South | Whiteboy - 2014-07-01 3:38 PM
 According to equistat as of March 27, 2014:
Frenchmans guy has produced $4,095,692 and 505 performers
PC Frenchmans Hayday produced $981,050 and 54 performers (includes Stingray at $443,906)
This would include the rodeo earnings since equistat started recording them, as well as futurity and derby earnings. But in my opinion what sets these horses apart is the the ability for FG to consistantly produce top runners. While Dinero has only 3 that I know of that have exceeded $10,000 in equistat earnings. FG also has 32% of all foals contributing to total earnings while Dinero only has 10% of his foals contributing.Â
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Thank you for this!
The $2.3million that the Potter's have posted is obviously including multiple events. Some people look for versatility in a stud, I am not one of those people. I barrel race, that is what I look for in a producer, and for that reason, I don't see them as comparable studs. |
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Location: Scurry, TX | After thinking about the marketing statement, i believe that is exactly why. Always love to ask questions here, usually get great answers.
Yes i have been to the Fg website, yes i have seen his get, yes i have been to the sales, yes, yes, yes . He is an awesome horse no question!
And really do adults say things like Flaming and Flame away? |
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| On that note a good roper can make $10,000 on a poor horse in a single weekend. Comparing roping money to barrel money is a joke. |
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| Whiteboy - 2014-07-01 3:57 PM
On that note a good roper can make $10,000 on a poor horse in a single weekend.  Comparing roping money to barrel money is a joke. Â
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| Whiteboy - 2014-07-01 2:57 PM
On that note a good roper can make $10,000 on a poor horse in a single weekend.  Comparing roping money to barrel money is a joke. Â
Is sue like to know where I can win 10K in a weekend on a poor rope horse id be all over that like a dirty shirt! |
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