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| What is your opinion of some of these? Kinsey and I will be discussing them at length. For each of the following 10 examples (1) decide which amendment is involved, (2) and which rights are being violated. (3) What is the right thing to do according to The Bill of Rights? Then, write a 100-200 word paragraph explain which amendment you think is the most important for the protection of your rights and why.
1. You hear a knock at the door. You open it and find 2 police officers asking if they can come into your home to talk about a family member of yours. You say yes. While sitting in the living room, one of the officers sees a bomb on your shelf and confiscates it. You are arrested.
2. You are planning a public meeting to protest a new law. You have filed all of your permits and the city has said that you can have this meeting. The night before the meeting, however, the mayor finds out that you were arrested 4 years ago in another town for starting a riot. On the day of the meeting, police show up to prevent you from holding the meeting.
3. You have lived in your home for 15 years. During that time the city has grown and there are not enough roads. The sheriff comes to your house and tells you that you have to move because a new road was going to be built right through your property. You tell the officer that you like living there and don’t want to move. He tells you, "Too bad, you have 30 days to get out."
4. The principal at the high school in your town decides that all students can have extra holidays from school for the Jewish holiday of Yom Kippur. Most of the students were happy, but some parents were mad because they didn't have baby-sitters.
5. You are a new immigrant to the United States. One night you were coming out of a store and the police arrested you for stealing. You said you didn't do anything, but the police were convinced that they had the right person. When you told them that you wanted a lawyer, one of the policemen said, "You don't need a lawyer, I know that you're guilty. People from your country are always stealing. We're locking you up and throwing away the key."
6. You were arrested, tried, and convicted of kidnapping. There was no doubt that you were guilty. The judge said, "I can either send you to prison for 12 years or I can make you shave your head and stand in the middle of the freeway and dodge traffic for 8 hours a day so that you will know what it is like to be scared to death. Prison is too good for you."
7. You have worked in the same place for 17 years and only had one raise. You felt like your boss owed you something, so you took a computer. When the boss found out, he had you arrested. You asked for a trial because you said you were innocent. But the police said you didn't get a trial because they already caught you with the stolen computer, you were guilty.
8. At a gun collecting show, you picked out 5 guns that you wanted to add to your collection of guns from the 1800’s. When you tried to pay for the guns, you were told that you weren’t allowed to take so many guns. You could only buy 2 guns because the Constitution allows citizens to have one gun per adult family member.
9. Your friends robbed a liquor store. You did not help because you were at home sick. The police arrested the whole group including you. At the trial, you said that you were innocent and could prove it because you had witnesses. However, your witnesses were your friends, and if they said you weren’t there, it would mean that they were at the liquor store.
10. Your city is in a state of emergency. For 6 days there have been riots and fires. The National Guard was called to restore peace. When officers show up at your door demanding some food and a place to sleep, you were so afraid of their guns that you let them in and gave them what they wanted.
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  Semper Fi
             Location: North Texas | Interesting set of scenarios.
I answered all of them off the top of my head. I am looking forward to what kind of responses The Opposite of The Aisle will provide (if any).
Also, who will have to 'look up' which scenario falls under what pertinent Amendment.
Another interestion observation is that only scenario actually refers to an amendment that was written (specifically) historically in regards to the runup to The Revolutionary War. I wonder who else will be able to pick that particular scenario out and which amendment.
Thank You Tia for sharing! 
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      Location: oklahoma | foundation horse - 2014-07-13 5:02 PM Interesting set of scenarios.
I answered all of them off the top of my head. I am looking forward to what kind of responses The Opposite of The Aisle will provide (if any ).
Also, who will have to 'look up' which scenario falls under what pertinent Amendment.
Another interestion observation is that only scenario actually refers to an amendment that was written (specifically ) historically in regards to the runup to The Revolutionary War. I wonder who else will be able to pick that particular scenario out and which amendment.
Thank You Tia for sharing! 
I stopped reading after no. 1 because I'm exhausted from the weekend. It's clearly outlined in the fourth amendment but I did want to ask you clay, what opposite side of the aisle? Those of us with children in public school? Btw, i had Barney fife and his twin come to my door at 2 a.m. and ask to enter. Said my alarm had given an alert to trouble inside my home. That was the first red flag but I told them absolutely not and good night, shut the door and stumbled back to bed. They had the wrong house and we resumed sleeping. |
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| foundation horse - 2014-07-13 5:02 PM Interesting set of scenarios.
I answered all of them off the top of my head. I am looking forward to what kind of responses The Opposite of The Aisle will provide (if any ).
Also, who will have to 'look up' which scenario falls under what pertinent Amendment.
Another interestion observation is that only scenario actually refers to an amendment that was written (specifically ) historically in regards to the runup to The Revolutionary War. I wonder who else will be able to pick that particular scenario out and which amendment.
Thank You Tia for sharing! 
I must say that I had to look up some of the amendment numbers......no excuse for that either. |
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  Location: Four Corners Colorado | Is this part of the homeschool program you use? I can tell you all kids get in public school is crap. |
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| equussynergy - 2014-07-13 5:45 PM Is this part of the homeschool program you use? I can tell you all kids get in public school is crap.
Yes, she is feeling real mistreated right now too...... |
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   Location: SE Louisiana | Most of these look like trick question or the test was written by an idiot. I see nothing wrong at all with #1. You invited the police into your home and they spotted the bomb..
#9... well he clearly needs to be arrested because it states the only reason he didn't help rob the store was because he was sick.
#8 is not a violation because it's not the government telling you you there is a limit on how many guns you can buy. Just some dealer at the show.
#3 falls under eminent domain.. this happens all the time. Of course they have to pay you something for it but they decide what to pay.
#6.... well, I kinda like this one...
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  Location: Four Corners Colorado | kmcsunshine - 2014-07-13 5:05 PM equussynergy - 2014-07-13 5:45 PM Is this part of the homeschool program you use? I can tell you all kids get in public school is crap. Yes, she is feeling real mistreated right now too......
Do point me in the direction of the program. My nephew is probably coming to live with me and If he does we will be doing homeschool. |
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          Location: Bastrop, Texas | Great post! |
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      Location: oklahoma | Good catch komet, i sped through the first one and it didn't compute, lol kmc, This is a great post. Im going to quiz myself and my son tomorrow. |
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| CurlyQ - 2014-07-13 7:40 PM Good catch komet, i sped through the first one and it didn't compute, lol
kmc, This is a great post. Im going to quiz myself and my son tomorrow.
I caught the first one.......but had to wonder why the dummy let him in the house if he had a bomb in plain sight. |
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    Location: SoCal | Didn't get though them all because I'm being really lazy, but this is very similar to what we did in government class. Just graduated High School and these are some of the situations we had class discussions on. I was in AP Gov, so not sure what the regular gov classes covered these type of things as in depth as we did, but I know we covered stuff like this. |
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| I don't know if they get these specific questions but I know our govt teacher has discussions revolving around these types of scenarios. I don't know how specific they get into dissecting amendments, but since most of these involve weapons and injustices, and we live in the hunting capitol of the world, many of our kids know about guns rules, entering homes rules, etc. So I think at least our public school has a good handle on the concepts, but I'm sure they'd have to do research into the depth of the amendments. |
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             Location: North Texas | CurlyQ - 2014-07-13 5:18 PM foundation horse - 2014-07-13 5:02 PM Interesting set of scenarios.
I answered all of them off the top of my head. I am looking forward to what kind of responses The Opposite of The Aisle will provide (if any ).
Also, who will have to 'look up' which scenario falls under what pertinent Amendment.
Another interestion observation is that only scenario actually refers to an amendment that was written (specifically ) historically in regards to the runup to The Revolutionary War. I wonder who else will be able to pick that particular scenario out and which amendment.
Thank You Tia for sharing! 
I stopped reading after no. 1 because I'm exhausted from the weekend. It's clearly outlined in the fourth amendment but I did want to ask you clay, what opposite side of the aisle? Those of us with children in public school?
Btw, i had Barney fife and his twin come to my door at 2 a.m. and ask to enter. Said my alarm had given an alert to trouble inside my home. That was the first red flag but I told them absolutely not and good night, shut the door and stumbled back to bed. They had the wrong house and we resumed sleeping.
"My" definition in this case is those on the opposite of the aisle who do not believe or respect The Constitution and therefore believe and act if It is an outdated Archaic Document that should be done away or overhauled. |
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   Location: PNW | This isn't in any social studies curriculum that I have had to teach (K-8). Not even CLOSE.
But I'm stealing this.
Also, what homeschool program do you use? I'm looking into homeschooling my boys (LONG ways off still, but I've already started researching programs because many start at the pre-K level).
What a FABULOUS assignment. What grade work is your daughter doing right now? Age? |
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        Location: In the land of peanuts and cotton | foundation horse - 2014-07-13 5:02 PM
 Interesting set of scenarios.  I answered all of them off the top of my head. I am looking forward to what kind of responses The Opposite of The Aisle will provide (if any ).  Also, who will have to 'look up' which scenario falls under what pertinent Amendment.  Another interestion observation is that only scenario actually refers to an amendment that was written (specifically ) historically in regards to the runup to The Revolutionary War. I wonder who else will be able to pick that particular scenario out and which amendment.  Thank You Tia for sharing!    Â
I don't know how to highlight part of your statement so I copied and paste it....
Another interestion observation is that only scenario actually refers to an amendment that was written (specifically) historically in regards to the runup to The Revolutionary War. I wonder who else will be able to pick that particular scenario out and which amendment.
I may be completely wrong but I'm goons see if I'm right. I believe you are referring to scenario #10..... During the Revolutionary War soilders would go into people's houses and take what ever they wanted. Whether it be food, guns, or something else. I'm guessing the 3rd amendment, but could partially be the 4th amendment.
I would think scenario #8 would also be a violation of the 2nd amendment.
We had to do a ton of this kind of stuff when I took Goverment when I was a senior in high school.
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       Location: Florida | That is a great assignment. It will make her research and think, and most of all appreciate how our constitution protects us. |
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          Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | svincent - 2014-07-13 9:43 PM This isn't in any social studies curriculum that I have had to teach (K-8). Not even CLOSE. But I'm stealing this. Also, what homeschool program do you use? I'm looking into homeschooling my boys (LONG ways off still, but I've already started researching programs because many start at the pre-K level). What a FABULOUS assignment. What grade work is your daughter doing right now? Age?
I'm not sure how much things have changed, but this stuff used to be introduced in high school. I had civics in 9th grade, and street law in 11th. Unfortunately, my civics teacher was an unapologetic flaming liberal (I only recognized this as an adult, she tried her best to indoctrinate), but my street law teacher was pretty awesome. |
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       Location: your guess is as good as mine | Wow...awesome questions! We did similar assignments in Civics class when I was in Jr High, but I went to a private school. We were supposed to extensively cover the Constitution in American History my junior year in HS (teacher was a devout Constitutionalist) - but that was the year the wall fell in East Berlin so we spent most of the year discussing that, etc.
I'm thinking #8 is the one - dealing with the 2nd Amendment - that was one of the sticking points leading up to the Revolutionary War... |
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        Location: Gainesville, TX | Interesting assignment. |
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